*Going to see how GREEN my thumbs are:)

Hey McFunk,

I just thought I would stop by and say hi. Killer cabinet build and I love the Mc Funk Stick. Great idea.

I dont mean to shoot down your idea but ya cant daisy chain hps. Sucks but it dont happen. Each bulb needs a ballast, well wait a minute, there is two ballasts out there that will run two lights each. There is a dual 250 by Galaxy and a dual 600 by Lumatec.

They re fairly new and kinda expensive right now.

What I am toying with is a flip flop flower cabinets. Two cabs side by side one ballast two bulbs and a relay. Ballast runs 24/7 and the relay flips from one cab to the other every 12 hours. Just thought I would run that by you. I like running ideas by people and getting opinions.

Well time to burn one and contemplate the design on my Funk Stick. (that will take an hour) LOL

Thanks for the complement on my journal.

Thanks for stoppin' by cruiser!

That's a shame about the no chaining. I've called around and was told the same thing. I'm still at the drawing board unfortunately.

Funny you should bring-up 2 bulbs one ballast...
That's an awesome scenario for that app.
...another purpose for dual light one ballast would be in the same cab. For instance 6 of 12(or 8 of 16, 12 of 24 veg.)one side gets direct light/next 6 they get indirect and the other half get's the direct. Lower heat/Probably higher G.per.W average I imagine, too.

Shoot me a picture of your McFunk Stick when it's done, man! Very cool

Please stay in touch, cruiser!
Love
McFunk

Cool, I will shoot a pic of da stick once I get it done.

The flip flop I was talking about is with a regular ballast. I guess I mixed that up.
Taking advantage of the fact there is two 12 hr periods in a day. Ya got 12 hrs to flower in one then instead of the ballast turning off and on again and hitting your bill with a power spike that is noticable it just keeps running and a relay that is controlled by a simple timer will switch the juice to the second lamp for 12 hrs then back again. If you start one grow a month later and you are on an 8 week flower strain you could alternate harvests and have one every other month.

I was just saying that there are dual lamp ballasts out there that will run two lights.
Thing is heat. I found my cabs temp rising about 10° when the lights are on. I dont think you could have two HID in one cab unless you had cooltubes or the ventlation system from hell.

Score!
I love the internet.

OK, I bought 2~150wHPS with their own ballasts and the joe threw in a cheap timer to be Cool.
A Hunnert Doalla' Bill. I think I did ok.


...the journey continues.
Now I hafta' get some voodoo workin'.

Oh Yea!!!
Just what I hoped for!



...but I think I can use those hoods too. Hmm...

cruzer101 said:

I guess its more of a Funk Twig.

Thanks for the idea man.[/INDENT]

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Awesome!
That's very cool, man.
Thanks for the pic.

OK...
Here's an idea...
Let me have it!


I sketched the plants bleeding off into adjacent screens but that wouldn't be allowed to happen. Each PVC aero box has it's own stand and would be connected to it's own screen. Quick (dis)connect pool hose w/bulkheads on each to drain. Spaghetti line fed.

I could also s p r e a d the screens further from the light if things got too close for comfort.

Wadday'all think?

McFunk

No!
Maybe this...


Now were talkin' more than 5sq Ft of scrog per box.
Huh? Potentially 20squares of real estate. 20 playerers on the team@ 600w total in an uncramped, well ventilated 5'hx4'w2'd???

I don't see a problem yet...

Interesting.
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Hey Amigo,

Out of the two screen box designs I like the first one.
By having the light in the center of the box you use more of the available light.
Plants can grow upside down, they will reach for the light no mater where it is.

I would think the only disadvantage would be size. You would need to grow a strain a couple times and get used to the stretch and overall size of the buds before you would know how big to make the box.

Mythbusters, Ha, I like thst show too. Havent seen it in a while though.
I read a while back that vibrations from bass in music help a plant grow.
Never saw a test though. So there conclusion would be what I read then.
The heavy metal had the most vibrations out of the recordings.

Right on man.
Good post.

cruzer101 said:

Hey Amigo,

Out of the two screen box designs I like the first one.
By having the light in the center of the box you use more of the available light.
Plants can grow upside down, they will reach for the light no mater where it is.

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Yep! I think I'm leaning toward that design with the front screen added. That way I can pull air through the back of the cube via 4" blower to a DIY manifolded splitting 4 way. (One to each cube.) I think that will pull fresh air through the canopy when it becomes dense.

cruzer101 said:

I would think the only disadvantage would be size. You would need to grow a strain a couple times and get used to the stretch and overall size of the buds before you would know how big to make the box.

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Of the strains I've considered and have recent experience with, I think the OG~Kush is a prime candidate when topped. Squat Indica dom but stretches just enough for my space.
The good news is, I can experiment with 4 strains at a time and not mix strains in the same box.

...I've got the rest of my life to do this

Thanks for all your input, Cruiser.
Keeps me goin'.
LOVE
McFunk

damn, growing upside down would be a trip, the buds wouldn't have to fight gravity. i wonder what effect it would have on cannabis?

as to the design, I was thinking you could go with the vertical bulb thing and just hang them in between the plants. it'd be even cooler if the vertical bulbs were in vertical air-cooled tubes.

i dunno... and then i got high moment
i'll be back when i can think again, haha

how about a step vertical scrog. like a step vert. i dont kno im high.. just throwin ideas

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

how about a step vertical scrog. like a step vert. i dont kno im high.. just throwin ideas

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Yea man! I'm watchin' DST do exactly that!

phreakygoat said:

damn, growing upside down would be a trip, the buds wouldn't have to fight gravity. i wonder what effect it would have on cannabis?

as to the design, I was thinking you could go with the vertical bulb thing and just hang them in between the plants. it'd be even cooler if the vertical bulbs were in vertical air-cooled tubes.

i dunno... and then i got high moment
i'll be back when i can think again, haha

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I thought about doing a little open end porch light globe for the 150s but, well, their 150's. I don't think we're gonna' have enough heat issues to warrant leaching off 10% of those little suckers' lumen's w/ glass. But that's the plan if it does heat up.

I'm looking forward to growing my own upsidedown.
Maybe theirs an Australian strain I should be on the lookout for? HA!

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Ha!
Thanks for stoppin' by, Earl.
Funny... I've been on yours and stinkbuds threads/pages since about 5am stealing recipes for success. Ha!
Have a grocery list of stuff jotted down for a run to the plant parts stores.

Welcome, man of few words.
McFunk

OoooooKayyyyy....
I took some pics w/ the video camera this morning...
(charger is still MIA )

Coming on nicely chief!!!

Went shoppin' for the Funk Box grow yesterday too!
Got some 4" Vinyl, a pump, some sprayers, 2" net pots, 2" neoprene inserts... Uhhh.... ~n some other stuff I think. Ha!


Gotta jam!
LOVE
McFunk

damn, lookin nice.. how many weeks are they into 12-12..? i see you went shopping, still have more stuff on your list ?