Global warming pauses... for sixteen years

NLXSK1

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Gee this show a flatten of the rise. Wonder why the red line doesn't curve? Politics.
The red line does not curve because you cherry picked 40 years out of millenia...

Global warming exists along with global cooling and is clearly demonstrated on a scale that includes the hundreds of thousands of years you have chosen to leave out.
 

NLXSK1

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  • 1998 - 32.94 degrees Fahrenheit (0.52 degrees Celsius)
  • 2005 - 32.86 degrees Fahrenheit (0.48 degrees Celsius)
  • 2003 - 32.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius)
  • 2002 - 32.83 degrees Fahrenheit (0.46 degrees Celsius)
  • 2004 - 32.77 degrees Fahrenheit (0.43 degrees Celsius)
  • 2006 - 32.76 degrees Fahrenheit (0.42 degrees Celsius)
  • 2007 - 32.74 degrees Fahrenheit (0.41 degrees Celsius)
  • 2001 - 32.72 degrees Fahrenheit (0.40 degrees Celsius)
  • 1997 - 32.65 degrees Fahrenheit (0.36 degrees Celsius)
  • 1995 - 32.5 degrees Fahrenheit (0.28 degrees Celsius)
2010 tied 2005 2009 was only a tad cooler than 2005



the 10 hottest years on record - I don't see anything like a plateau going on here
Years on record according to who? Are you relying on a couple hundred years of data while ignoring the totality of the actual record?
 

canndo

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Years on record according to who? Are you relying on a couple hundred years of data while ignoring the totality of the actual record?
We happen to have records of hundreds of thousands of years, and those records show the same thing, that things are getting warmer.



Are you saying that it was just a coincidence that our industrial society and the burning of fossil fuels just happened to start at the beginning of a natural warming cycle? Wow.
 

desert dude

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We happen to have records of hundreds of thousands of years, and those records show the same thing, that things are getting warmer.



Are you saying that it was just a coincidence that our industrial society and the burning of fossil fuels just happened to start at the beginning of a natural warming cycle? Wow.
The little ice age happened when we were furiously burning coal, a fossil fuel.
 

canndo

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The little ice age happened when we were furiously burning coal, a fossil fuel.

You are a smart guy, I have seen your arguments. Global climate is not deterministic and you know it. The oceans are buffering large amounts of co2, this you know as well. why are you all going out to some theoretical absurdity such as "we can't destroy the earth - it is simply too large" when the real question has never had anything to do with the planet but our ability to survive and thrive on it - a wholely different thing.


the oceans are becoming more acidic, this is known, at a certain point the oceans will no longer serve as carbon sinks and then you will see these rising peaks rise exponentialy.
 

ginjawarrior

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The little ice age happened when we were furiously burning coal, a fossil fuel.
funny you should mention that along with natural causes we have this

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4755328.stm
"Europe's "Little Ice Age" may have been triggered by the 14th Century Black Death plague, according to a new study."
http://stephenschneider.stanford.edu/Publications/PDF_Papers/Ruddiman2003.pdf
"A wide array of archeological, cultural, historical and geologic evidence points
to viable explanations tied to anthropogenic changes resulting from early agriculture in Eurasia,
including the start of forest clearance by 8000 years ago and of rice irrigation by 5000 years ago. In
recent millennia, the estimated warming caused by these early gas emissions reached a global-mean
value of ∼0.8 ◦C and roughly 2 ◦C at high latitudes, large enough to have stopped a glaciation of
northeastern Canada predicted by two kinds of climatic models. CO2 oscillations of ∼10 ppm in the
last 1000 years are too large to be explained by external (solar-volcanic) forcing, but they can be
explained by outbreaks of bubonic plague that caused historically documented farm abandonment
in western Eurasia. Forest regrowth on abandoned farms sequestered enough carbon to account for
the observed CO2 decreases. Plague-driven CO2 changes were also a significant causal factor in
temperature changes during the Little Ice Age (1300–1900 AD)."

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/generic/id/335168/title/Columbus_arrival_linked_to_carbon_dioxide_drop
"The European conquest of the Americas decimated the people living there, leaving large areas of cleared land untended. Trees that filled in this territory pulled billions of tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere, Stanford University geochemist Richard Nevle reported October 11 at the Geological Society of America annual meeting. Such carbon dioxide removal could have diminished the heat-trapping capacity of the atmosphere and cooled the climate, Nevil and his colleagues have previously reported.
“We have a massive reforestation event that’s sequestering carbon … coincident with the European arrival,” said Nevle."
 

Harrekin

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We happen to have records of hundreds of thousands of years, and those records show the same thing, that things are getting warmer.



Are you saying that it was just a coincidence that our industrial society and the burning of fossil fuels just happened to start at the beginning of a natural warming cycle? Wow.
You're retarded, atmospheric CO2 levels have been vastly higher than they currently are in the past. We have ice cores that confirm it.

Stop putting your little "facts" in and assuming they'll be accepted as such, cos theyre wrong 99% of the time when questioned.
 

canndo

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You're retarded, atmospheric CO2 levels have been vastly higher than they currently are in the past. We have ice cores that confirm it.

Stop putting your little "facts" in and assuming they'll be accepted as such, cos theyre wrong 99% of the time when questioned.

Show us Har. I think you will find that I am rarely incaccurate and when I am shown to be, I recant and admit that I was.
 

canndo

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*sigh*

You climate people.

Facts Harr, facts, you want to show us some or do you want to simply make stuff up?


What some help? current co2 content is around 400 ppm.


The highest otherwise was 345,000 years ago - at 300 ppm.


So what exactly are you talking about?
 

UncleBuck

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There has been no upward movement since 1997. This climate stuff is just so uncooperative.

http://reason.com/blog/2012/10/15/a-16-year-pause-in-global-warming

"This means that the ‘plateau’ or ‘pause’ in global warming has now lasted for about the same time as the previous period when temperatures rose, 1980 to 1996. Before that, temperatures had been stable or declining for about 40 years."
yet for some reason we've just gone through the hottest decade on record, with each year hotter than the last.

all of this despite a lull in solar irradiance.

science is not for some people. these people call themselves "republicans", making it easy for us to realize who thinks that this is all just a decades in the making hoax involving thousands of people in dozens of countries, only recently uncovered by a bloviating radio show douche.
 

Harrekin

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Facts Harr, facts, you want to show us some or do you want to simply make stuff up?
Fact is, human CO2 emissions are like 2% of all the greenhouse gases we emit. It's undeniable we've effected the natural cycle, with CO2? Don't be so silly.

Methane is far worse a greenhouse gas, a fart tax won't fix that either.
 

Harrekin

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*sigh*

stupid having to support your assertions with evidence.
I was wrong about it being vastly higher but it has been equal, around 330ish ppm (with some cores indicating up to 600ppm, but this is disputed).

Forget CO2, it's all the other mad shit we pump out and the 7 billion insects we've covered this planet in.

Want to REALLY fix the climate? Kill 5 billion people.
 

UncleBuck

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I was wrong about it being vastly higher but it has been equal, around 330ish ppm (with some cores indicating up to 600ppm, but this is disputed).

Forget CO2, it's all the other mad shit we pump out and the 7 billion insects we've covered this planet in.

Want to REALLY fix the climate? Kill 5 billion people.
the fact that you can admit that you were wrong puts you ahead of jujst about every righty on this board.

doer will not admit to his idiocy, DEA dude is proud of his idiocy, redtard1966 is just here to try to get a rage boner going since not even viagra can give him a chance to cure his virginity...it takes a bigger man to utter those words.
 

UncleBuck

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I put bagel bites in my ass cheeks and have the dog lick them out.
that's great, but perhaps you can support harrekin's assertion with evidence.

good luck, he even admitted he couldn't, like a man would.

too bad that you're not a man, but rather a little child who writes in crayon and has a bagel bite fetish with your dog.
 

Harrekin

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the fact that you can admit that you were wrong puts you ahead of jujst about every righty on this board.

doer will not admit to his idiocy, DEA dude is proud of his idiocy, redtard1966 is just here to try to get a rage boner going since not even viagra can give him a chance to cure his virginity...it takes a bigger man to utter those words.
Fuck that, Im not a righty, don't compare me to those retards.
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