giving defoliation during flower a try

pk_boosted2

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Idk how u can get it much cheaper than 189 for both at a store that's not very much mark up as it is esp w costs of business if u get it for less u gettin a great price
 

pk_boosted2

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Cali prolly got cheaper prices it's more about location, how much u buy, where u need deliver too. U got remember if I'm getting a west coast product like soil or nutrients that a lot of shipping weight to east coast. If I drop ship and u get online price is obviously a lot less usually another 15% off for most products. It's hard having store man everyone wanna get online price they don't understand convenience of picking things up that day and cost of business. I got 7k in bills between rent, electric, insurance, phone, internet, employees so I need make money too and still be somewhat competitive
 

pk_boosted2

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U talkin about the 20L set or the 20L bottles of each the 189 is for 20L of each base so 40l total.. Need be more specific
 

pk_boosted2

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I been seeing a lot of problems with H&g quality control lately in their nutrients. Getting whacky ph's and different color when u mix them. Idk what they did to their formula but it's been an issue for awhile now having a lot of complaints about it from ppl.
 

pk_boosted2

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H&g is decent nutrients for price point. But for extra few bucks I still like canna better same thing but I like boost over bud XML better and I like pk 13/14 over the shooter n booster IMO. I wish I could carry it I get it for guys for free basically just help me out and keep me coming in for other stuff. Only thing I like h&g has is roots excellurator that's really good shit
 

a mongo frog

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I been seeing a lot of problems with H&g quality control lately in their nutrients. Getting whacky ph's and different color when u mix them. Idk what they did to their formula but it's been an issue for awhile now having a lot of complaints about it from ppl.
have no idea what that means. shits been the same for 10 years now other then labeling. just tell those people stop using all the additives. top booster is a scam, amino treatment is a scam, theres others too, i just don't pay attention any more.
 

pk_boosted2

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I still think best bang for buck if you just want good nutrients for price is botanic are pure blend pro and some of their additives. Great quality, good prices, decent yields
 

pk_boosted2

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Why are they scams? That's a pretty bold statement. I think it's more like Do you need them? NO, do they hurt your grow, NO. They serve purposes such as fighting diseases, molds, pests. Do they increase yield 20% no but that's not really what they r there for. Such as amino, Algen, multi-zen etc.. U cud just do bases, bud xl and get same results probably I've never tried it but I'm sure wouldn't be much difference overall. Saying things r absolute scam though kinda crazy. Only products I think are scams and absolutely bs are those flavor carbs and the flushing supplements.
 

pk_boosted2

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Idk I've tried out a lot of products hard to say something is an absolute scam unless u really done multi controlled experiments side by side even then hard to tell every plant is diff. Even same phenos some grow bigger and better than other even w same environment and nutrients. Obv I get a lot of free notes and equipment to try out, so I've done my fair share of fuckin around w product. I don't think anything is a complete scam. I do think led's are BS scams. I've never seen one work really well w all their claims they make and for price forget about it they are far from being compared to hid's
 
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