AlphaPhase
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probably could have done even better if you would have shoved a sharpened Popsicle stick into the main stem. cervantes has a video on it.Lol, it did have like 2 or 3 leaves for each cola, I never took them all off, but it was impossible to leave the leaves on in my system, they were pretty much sealed rooms just packed with 72 clones each room (2 tables), no veg time, maybe just a few days veg time, most leaves were plucked during the stretch (no time to defoliate prior since there was no veg). The end product were 72 buds the size of my arm and it took me maybe a few hours to trim 4 lbs. Like I tried to say, it's strain dependent. These were tangerine kush
It's called "klieven" in NL, something people did outdoors to finish the plant prematurely if the late summer / early fall weather sucked too bad. Nowadays...probably could have done even better if you would have shoved a sharpened Popsicle stick into the main stem. cervantes has a video on it.![]()
I know some people that do that, but I just let them finish naturally indoors. Outdoors would be a better application for the method as sativied said, I wouldn't think it would be needed in states like cali where the fall months never get too cold, so the need to finish the plants early is kind of redundant, but back in NY people did this A LOT and it does seem to work. I've done it a few times but I usually forgot to do it and maybe stabbed only a few dozen plants in my lifeprobably could have done even better if you would have shoved a sharpened Popsicle stick into the main stem. cervantes has a video on it.![]()
Not as common as flushing and defoliating, but it's an oldie that just won't die. While there are quite a few who do it, even in the smaller dutch forums they usually get ridiculed for doing it.What's the science behind cracking open a plant's trunk? Seems to me the inside would callous over thereby reducing the amount of cell tissue conducting fluids/solids/salts.
it probably only works on certain strains and you have to do it right, or it doesn't work.Not as common as flushing and defoliating, but it's an oldie that just won't die. While there are quite a few who do it, even in the smaller dutch forums they usually get ridiculed for doing it.
Those who do it claim that the science behind it is that creating restricting nutrient and water uptake ==> stress ==> more THC.
Usually done around the same time the same folks start flushing or stop feeding (same thing for many), so 2 weeks or so before harvest... it's like giving a PK booster around the same time the buds normally swell up too, or removing leaves and 'see' more bud.
It's supposedly a technique from south east asia, I haven't found any dutch reliable agriculture resources that mention it and seems to be an advanced mj growing technique only if you know what I mean.
The outdoor scenario to which the myth is typically contributed is too largely perception. For many (forum and bro-science) growers in NL a yellow cannabis plant is a ripe cannabis plant, yellow/brown/dying = ripe, so causing premature yellowing is perceived as premature maturing/riping. Hence the voodoo doll, it's voodoo, not science.
This one actually shows the action/verb 'klieven":this is what comes up on google images if you type in "kleiven" lmfao
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=799&q=klieven&oq=klieven&gs_l=img.12..0i24.2296.2296.0.3467.1.1.0.0.0.0.73.73.1.1.0.chm_qwpr...0...1.2.61.img..0.1.73.ipeDi6lZdIg
I'm kinda confused now, By that pic, it makes bigger buds? but I thought it stressed it for more resin production.Just in case those results actually in some messed up way looks convincing to some readers now or in the future, I will add there's not a single pro grower I've seen it do, just people desperate for a few more grams of bud, often in their first or second grow.
Those test results go with the 4th pic in the list of example pics, from 2008 already, and that thread is probably one of the reasons it keeps popping up in that same forum. The test itself isn't properly conducted and documented, the picture above means absolutely nothing.
I should have known.Those who do it claim that the science behind it is that restricting nutrient and water uptake ==> stress ==> more THC.
Now you know why I'm not active in dutch grow forums, shit's confusing lol.I'm kinda confused now, By that pic, it makes bigger buds? but I thought it stressed it for more resin production.
depending on the amount of leaves a given pheno makes and the growth structure removing some leavesDefoliation is just plain necessary if you grow vertically. Different times and places for different techniques.