GH Armor Si BANNED in Canada.. Alternatives?

As the title says, it's currently banned. Any recommendations for a more or less 1:1 alternative swap? I'm aware there are many silicate products out there, even superior ones, but looking for something as similar to the GH ASi as possible. Cheers.
 

Doug Dawson

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As the title says, it's currently banned. Any recommendations for a more or less 1:1 alternative swap? I'm aware there are many silicate products out there, even superior ones, but looking for something as similar to the GH ASi as possible. Cheers.
Where do you see info on it being banned in Canada? I am currently in Canada and just checked, it is in stock in my local hydro store in 500 ml, 1L, 4L, 10L and 23L.
 

WintersBones

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Is that why most online store I look at says out of stock for the past year? Think you can find it on amazon but ya not many options I've noticed, weird.

Not sure about a 1:1 replacement but I've just started using diatomaceous earth for the silica. Not sure what the actual PPM content is but I just add about a 1/4 tsp/gal and my plants seem to like it. Also works as part of IPM to keep gnats and root aphids away.

Otherwise, what xtsho suggests.
 
Where do you see info on it being banned in Canada? I am currently in Canada and just checked, it is in stock in my local hydro store in 500 ml, 1L, 4L, 10L and 23L.
I'm in Ontario, Toronto area. Where abouts are you? And yeah apparently an ingredient in it has been banned by Canadian customs so every hydro store I call says they're sold out (even though some of them say In Stock on their website), and a number of them are discontinuing carrying GH because of this.


Is that why most online store I look at says out of stock for the past year? Think you can find it on amazon but ya not many options I've noticed, weird.
You can get a 1 Quart bottle on Amazon for $40 CAD + $30 shipping... when it should be $20. People are capitalizing on the shortage, bastards!
 

Doug Dawson

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I'm in Ontario, Toronto area. Where abouts are you? And yeah apparently an ingredient in it has been banned by Canadian customs so every hydro store I call says they're sold out (even though some of them say In Stock on their website), and a number of them are discontinuing carrying GH because of this.




You can get a 1 Quart bottle on Amazon for $40 CAD + $30 shipping... when it should be $20. People are capitalizing on the shortage, bastards!
I can't find any info on that anywhere but don't do the Amazon thing, it's insane. Let me help you out. Here is a location in the Toronto Area.

Holland Industries
573 Fenmar Dr
North York, ON M9L 2R6, Canada


 
I can't find any info on that anywhere but don't do the Amazon thing, it's insane. Let me help you out. Here is a location in the Toronto Area.

Holland Industries
573 Fenmar Dr
North York, ON M9L 2R6, Canada
Yeah it shows in stock on the site but called them earlier today and the guy literally laughed at me. Sold out everywhere D:
 

Doug Dawson

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Yeah it shows in stock on the site but called them earlier today and the guy literally laughed at me. Sold out everywhere D:
That is odd. I purchased some to pickup at the Mississauga location yesterday after you said it was banned. They emailed me today saying it was being sent from Toronto store and would be ready for pickup Saturday. Not sure why the guy laughed at you, they do have it in stock. They sent me this today for the order I placed yesterday. I will update you once it is in hand.

  • New status - Processing
  • Comments on your order:
    Your order will be ready for pick up by Saturday from 11pm-6pm, I have pretty much everything here except for the Armor Si that I have to wait for it from my hq in toronto, thank you
 
So basically the dummy that works there was too dense to think, "hey maybe this guy would appreciate knowing that we can order it in from the Toronto location". Glad he doesn't work for me. I got a hydro store in Michigan to stealth ship me some across the boarder. $20 shipping annoying but we got some.
 

Doug Dawson

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So basically the dummy that works there was too dense to think, "hey maybe this guy would appreciate knowing that we can order it in from the Toronto location". Glad he doesn't work for me. I got a hydro store in Michigan to stealth ship me some across the boarder. $20 shipping annoying but we got some.
Cool, glad it worked out for you.
 

Keesje

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Just buy Potassium Water Glas.
Very inexpensive and the same stuff.
Rhino Skin is just a rip off.
 

Keesje

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You just need 1.5/2ml per 10 liter water in your rez. So a liter of Potassium Water Glas will last a long time.
 
I emailed GH and they responded this:

“Armor Si is going through the registration process in Canada as we speak, but unfortunately do not have a timeframe for it to return to shelves. Until Health Canada approves our registration, it will continue to be unavailable as a result. Once the product is available again, it will be at retail dealer sites across the country.”

all remaining stock in Canada will remain on shelves until sold. Like others have said it is available on Amazon.ca for about $50 shipped. Some have had success getting it in the country thru Amazon.com but it’s hit or miss.
As for a 1:1 replacement the closest I’ve found is Optimum Hydroponix Silicate. It’s a Canadian brand at $10/L it’s 0-0-3 it has (3% K2O) soluble potash derived from potassium silicate and (8% SiO2) silicone dioxide derived from potassium silicate
GH Armor Si is 0-0-4 (4%K2O)
and (10% SiO2) both derived from potassium silicate.


I’m sure at 1-1.5ml per gal it would be fine. From my understanding Silica is one of the rare supplements that cannabis will not get toxicity from.
Hope this helps
 

Doug Dawson

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I emailed GH and they responded this:

“Armor Si is going through the registration process in Canada as we speak, but unfortunately do not have a timeframe for it to return to shelves. Until Health Canada approves our registration, it will continue to be unavailable as a result. Once the product is available again, it will be at retail dealer sites across the country.”

all remaining stock in Canada will remain on shelves until sold. Like others have said it is available on Amazon.ca for about $50 shipped. Some have had success getting it in the country thru Amazon.com but it’s hit or miss.
As for a 1:1 replacement the closest I’ve found is Optimum Hydroponix Silicate. It’s a Canadian brand at $10/L it’s 0-0-3 it has (3% K2O) soluble potash derived from potassium silicate and (8% SiO2) silicone dioxide derived from potassium silicate
GH Armor Si is 0-0-4 (4%K2O)
and (10% SiO2) both derived from potassium silicate.


I’m sure at 1-1.5ml per gal it would be fine. From my understanding Silica is one of the rare supplements that cannabis will not get toxicity from.
Hope this helps
Nice, thanks for the updated info bud. Nice to know they are working it out. I know the place I suggested above should still have it and it is available to order online through their link. I grabbed a 4 litre bottle when OP originally posted just to be on the safe side. Just checked their site and it is still there in multiple sizes if anyone needs it. With a 4 plant limit that 4 litre bottle will last me for a long time.
 
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