Getting water from a pond maybe 100 yards away

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CA MTN MAN said:
Unfortunately for me and everyone in my county, commercial growing was just completely banned because they say there is too many people doing egregious grows... So I actually am directly effected by people like this... Now I can only do 10x10 :(
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CA MTN MAN said:
If everyone played by the rules, there would be no bans. But thanks anyway outdoorgrowin.
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Which rules are you playing by to be growing commercially? There are no grow restrictions beyond state law here but my greenhouse falls within that 10x10 anyways. almost every county makes you get a building permit for anything larger than 120 square feet. Almost everyone using 10x20 carports is breaking the law.
 
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By the way @CA MTN MAN I've seen other posts by you on here and you seem like a cool guy. I don't have anything against you, just thought I'd let you know (not that it matters what some random dude like me thinks of you on the internet).

I would suggest that if you don't like the law, do something about it besides complain, either through legal means (petitions, voting, suing the county) or illegal means (grow however many you want wherever you can that won't get anybody in trouble besides yourself). But, if you're not commercial growing, like unspecified said, a 10x10 area should be plenty of space for personal growing; you should easily be able to get 10lbs. from a space that size and I don't know about you but that would be a lot more than I could go through in a year.
 
CA MTN MAN

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If everybody played by the rules you would never have gotten to experience, much less grow cannabis in the first place. You think legislators would have legalized cannabis without guerilla growers making it commonplace? You actually sound like the new generation grower. MMJ has only been legal for less than two decades, who was growing it before that? People who didn't play by the rules and grew in spite of the government's rules for one reason or another, e.g., love of the plant, enjoyment of smoking homegrown, money, etc. Old-school growers (as opposed to new generation growers) don't wait for the government to tell them it's okay to do so; they grow so much the government can't fight it anymore. You should try living in a non-legal state and see if your feelings change. Growing on state land is a lot safer than growing in your backyard for people in non-legal states.
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No idiot that's not why they made it legal, it's because they realized they could make a ton of money of it.
 
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CA MTN MAN said:
No idiot that's not why they made it legal, it's because they realized they could make a ton of money of it.
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and your county didn't ban big grows because of gureilla grows, they banned it because commercial grows were getting out of hand and people claiming medical but has 50lbs for them selves. Did you go to any city or county council meetings? I've gone to them in multiple counties. one that banned it and one that has left it alone. Illegal grows have very minimal impact on "legal grows" the laws are put into place to shut down commercial growing.
 
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CA MTN MAN said:
No idiot that's not why they made it legal, it's because they realized they could make a ton of money of it.
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I just said you seem like a cool guy and you call me an idiot, ha ha, whatever. What I was saying was if everybody played by the rules nobody would have ever tried cannabis and we'd still all believe that "Reefer Madness" bologna. Legalization wouldn't have happened if guerilla growers weren't supplying the public to change the general stigma of cannbis; experience through use by the general public proved that the government was lying about cannabis, not potential profit. You wouldn't even get your 10x10' area if it wasn't for guerilla growers of the past.

Part of the problem is you have a west coast MMJ "legal" mentality. Like I said, try living somewhere where you don't have legal protection to have even a 10'x10' area and pay $350/oz. and see if you don't change your song.

And just FYI, I'm a legal medical grower and caregiver, but for the majority of my life and the lives of most people in the US over 30 y.o. guerilla grown weed was the only option besides import (which I still have never smoked). How long have you been smoking? If you're over 30 there's a very good chance you smoked bushweed too. I wonder how much you complained about people not following the rules while you were smoking illegal weed. How long have you been growing? If more than two decades than you were illegal too at one point and if not that long then you're the new generation grower with entitlement issues. Getting to smoke weed hasn't always been as easy as it today and it's still not for a lot of people in a lot of states. You might want to take a look at the world from a horse that's not quite so high (read: entitled, west coast, new generation, MMJ grower horse).

And I still think you're probably a cool guy even if you are wrong and called me an idiot :)
 
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