Getting off dope

Ibogaine works much better than mescaline but there's a lot of risks to it, it's not the magic bullet that many claim it to be.

the best substance out there for making Opi w/d as easy as possible, but I don't really recommend it... is Meth. smoke some of that shit, and you won't get a single hint of w/d while coming off opiates. Money back guarantee =P

There's a number of substances that you can make the argument are safer to use to kick dope than dope itself. Meth is not one of them.

Hahah yeah trying to get of heroin being a meth head is the only logical answer.. Wtf? I had to experience the withdrawal to know I have overcome a beast.. You cant just pussy foot your way out of it.. It takes away from the severity of the drug. You gotta want it, you gotta earn it!

Lol, I said I don't recommend it. And The only way I've ever stopped is by going through hell and back. I'm 40 days clean from everything today. My last detox was bad enough for me to never want to use anything again other than ganja after I make it to day 90. My last detox I was coming off of benzos, alcohol, and a large amount of daily kratom which is the same as opiate w/d (was using that so I didn't spend $900/day on pills). I'm still not sleeping good, still have RLS, and still sweat a lot. recovery is a long road.

The combination of opioid and benzo withdrawal is fucking brutal.

You know... I've never tried meth. Probably not a good idea.
I could believe it though. From what I understand, it's sort of a cure all.

I was reading this article about meth in N Korea recently... It was pretty crazy. Meth is so widely available and cheap in N Korea and healthcare is so rare and expensive that everyone uses meth as medicine.... Cancer, the flu, infections, anything... pretty crazy.

well about meth. for shits and grins googled my ex-wife and up pops all her arrest photos and you can see the progression. I'll probably be sending flowers that shit has fucked her up. you know those anti drug posters good lookin babe at the top monster at the bottom yeah that's what it looked like. meth is definitely not a good ideal !!!!!!!!

play with a blow torch long enough your going to set something on fire LOL.

well if anyone cares methidone is just as addictive as any other drug. never understood why they give you an opioid for heroin detox . its just one drug for another.. it all sucks to detox from with drawls are no fukin joke i don't care what its from .. stay strong my brother.. only you can keep you clean,, its all in your hands..

Skuxx said:

the best substance out there for making Opi w/d as easy as possible, but I don't really recommend it... is Meth. smoke some of that shit, and you won't get a single hint of w/d while coming off opiates. Money back guarantee =P

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while it does help for wd it doesnt take it all away and usually just makes me feel like a spunion after

meth is trash..... do coke instead!!!!! its Americas cup of coffee...

i agree, coca cola, as long as its real and pure and not cut with a bunch of iceatonic bullshit, cocaine is the way to go, until ur hooked on that to looking like a zombie and shit .

I'm skipping plan B and on to plan C...

I just purchased a ticket... Turned off the lights... Getting on a plane... staying with a cousin... 1400 miles from my dope connections. I've got a bedroom to myself and 15 days to get clean.

I bought The Sopranos complete set. I'm going to watch every episode in between shitting myself, contemplating cutting my legs off and changing sheets. If I'm not good after 2 weeks I'll stay longer.

This is the only way it's going to happen. I know after 2 days I'm going to be kicking myself HARD for doing this to myself.

Thanks for the words, support, etc. Fucking thank you. You all really made a difference. For real though. Thank you.

Wish me luck..

good for you hank this is going to be the best cause for you!!!!!!! I know you can do this. when I quit I had to get away from the connections and the people!!!! and that I think helped so much for me!!!!! hank I wish you the best of luck. I know oyu can overcome this issue and when you do you will feel amazing, you know oyu can overcome anything ! good luck hank we will all be rooting for you !!

So did you completely run out of tramadol yet? If so have you done any other pills or dope?? You're plan sounds good so far. But you need to make a set plan for what to do after those 15 days. While the initial withdrawal is very hard.... that is not all there is to it. It's like a never ending recovery process that gets easier and easier VERY slowly. I'm 40 something days clean... IDK I don't really count anymore (clean since may 13th), and it's still extremely tempting for me to use... everyday. I'm not just an opiate head though. I've been hooked on everything, so it makes it a little harder. I get tempted to buy booze passing liquor stores.... I get tempted to buy xanax when I see somebody that I know has them, or someone calls me (I need to change phone #.. but it's how I make $).... I get tempted to buy molly.... roxies.. dope.. everything. It's always in my face. And not all days are good. You start feeling feelings and emotions that you haven't felt in years, and it's just really tempting to get fucked up. Everybody I see at meetings, and my Dr. all say that I need more "structure" to my recovery. I need to find a hobby, go to more meetings... get a sponsor... this and that... and at first I was just saying fuck that I don't need all that.... but now 40 something days in I am starting to see what they mean. Good luck to ya I'll stop rambling.

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So did you completely run out of tramadol yet? If so have you done any other pills or dope?? You're plan sounds good so far. But you need to make a set plan for what to do after those 15 days. While the initial withdrawal is very hard.... that is not all there is to it. It's like a never ending recovery process that gets easier and easier VERY slowly. I'm 40 something days clean... IDK I don't really count anymore, and it's still extremely tempting for me to use... everyday. I'm not just an opiate head though. I've been hooked on everything, so it makes it a little harder. I get tempted to buy booze passing liquor stores.... I get tempted to buy xanax when I see somebody that I know has them, or someone calls me (I need to change phone #.. but it's how I make $).... I get tempted to buy molly.... roxies.. dope.. everything. It's always in my face. And not all days are good. You start feeling feelings and emotions that you haven't felt in years, and it's just really tempting to get fucked up. Everybody I see at meetings, and my Dr. all say that I need more "structure" to my recovery. I need to find a hobby, go to more meetings... get a sponsor... this and that... and at first I was just saying fuck that I don't need all that.... but now 40 something days in I am starting to see what they mean. Good luck to ya I'll stop rambling.

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I'm not gonna lie. I ran out of tramadol and I have been doing dope again. I blew it. I just couldn't do it.

I can't be sure I won't relapse but I am going to do my damn best... What I CAN be sure of is that I am going to go at least 2 weeks with no opiates/opioids at all. Not a little, none at all.

I'm not gonna make it a lifetime if I can't make it 2 weeks... so... what do I have to lose?

Don't apologize, not rambling. I like hearing what you have to say.

I DO need a plan for when I return. I don't know what it is yet... but I need to figure that out. Right now, I just need to get through the first two weeks. I'm hoping 2 weeks gets me to a point that Im fighting cravings not sickness.

Meetings, psych sessions, another trip right away... whatever it takes.

Nothing to be ashamed of... most all of us relapse. It's not easy or else everybody would be getting sober. but, anybody can do it if they really want to and really try. I think if you make a solid plan you will be fine. Like they say take it one day at a time. It's scary as fuck to think "so I can never get high for the rest of my life?"... but thinking "I'm not going to get high today and I'll worry about tomorrow when it's tomorrow" is a little easier. And I was never a fan of AA or NA and it still gets on my nerves a bit... but I swear going to those meetings helps a ton. You should at least give it a shot and keep an open mind about it. the hardest part for me is cutting off contact with anybody that sells shit, and any friends that were just drug buddies.

First thing not being harsh but may sound that way typed.

dude don't worry about two weeks just worry about not doing dope today. Then tomorrow work on that day when it comes.

Keep in mind you weren't born addicted you just acquired it and it can be unaquired. Like Sunni said you will b amazed at how good u start to feel.

it takes time we are creatures of habit!

YOU CAN DO IT THOUGH! Especially if I can do it lol

My old housemate was dealing with a very similar situation... She spent nearly every day locked up in her room shooting up with her boyfriend. My other housemate and I called up her mom (god was she mad that we did that...), let her know the situation, and she went to visit them for a week and no possibility of getting heroine. She came home and said, I need to move out... Sucked that we were suddenly stuck without someone paying her share of rent, but I completely applaud her for the decision... She said she needed to totally distance herself from the lifestyle and change everything, and honestly, I feel like that's the only way to really quit. You can say you're going to quit all day long and feel incredibly sincere about it, but if you go back to your regular old life and everything else is the same, relapse is a serious, serious concern... and almost inevitable.

The key is to change a major aspect of your life. Who are you buying from? Who are you doing it with? What brought you to start in the first place? Just think about all of those things, and really think about what needs to change. Just remember that if you do it successfully, it's going to be the hardest, shittiest thing you've ever been through... but it's going to totally change your life. Crossing my fingers for you and wishing you the best of luck!!