Getting off dope

ShazMo09

ShazMo09

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I used to get on the gear...Been on the methadone and suboxone programs for the last 5 years. They are just as bad as the hammer, just cheaper imo...Im down to 6mg of suboxone and everytime I try to drop to 5mg I can hold on it. I am considering just jumping off cold turkey from the 6...Hope all is well for you mate and GL
 
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schuylaar

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ShazMo09 said:
I used to get on the gear...Been on the methadone and suboxone programs for the last 5 years. They are just as bad as the hammer, just cheaper imo...Im down to 6mg of suboxone and everytime I try to drop to 5mg I can hold on it. I am considering just jumping off cold turkey from the 6...Hope all is well for you mate and GL
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IMO your doctor should have tapered you long ago..so his bad for not pulling the plug on you..additionally patients tend to be part of the problem too..asking to stay where they're at.

A good, reputable sub doctor will not allow you to linger..IMO
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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schuylaar said:
IMO Substituting Tramadol for Suboxone with a heroin addiction, is like throwing a bucket of water on a building fully engulfed in flames.

Let me know if I can help..I'm really happy you have your appointment..you
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Thanks schuylaar. Perhaps I am being optimistic thinking I can get by with just the tramadol. If need be, the sub option is there.
 
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chronichitz420

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As a person who currently struggles with hard opiat addiction I feel your pain. About 6 months ago I was completely off of them for the first time in about 7 years it was the greatest I had felt in a long time but a relapse quickly changes that. I hope all goes well for you and even though you are a complete stranger I pray for a quick recovery. Smoke as often as possible it helps a lot with sleep and restless leg syndrome and just general pains. God bless and good luck.
 
atidd11

atidd11

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schuylaar said:
FEDEX and UPS are preferred over US Mail..I know you think it's dumb and it is however, its what people do now..believe it or not. Are you taking a risk? Absolutely, H though is a risk in and of itself to begin with..that is why it was phrased as suggestion.
FEDEX and UPS are private corporations and care about two things only..on time and revenue. It's a fallacy if you think those companies inspect packages.
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fedex and ups are used by ppl in cali.. Thats y they r always getting caught. Ive used usps over 100 times and never had an issue. And ive got cuttings in the mail also..
 
atidd11

atidd11

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schuylaar said:
Personally, I've done both many, many times..bring onto flight vs send ahead. My preference is send ahead. THIS IS ALL AT YOUR OWN RISK..If I didn't make that clear. Merely a suggestion as the OP was looking for..

I know for a FACT there are NO X-rays or dogs in those PRIVATE corporations. They would NEVER budget that type of money or slow down their production..they CAN randomly inspect..which they do. Random inspections are usually reserved for questionable packages..FEDEX new policy is ON TIME or FREE..you be the judge.

I did a ton of research before trying out my theory and it works like a charm every time..AT MY OWN RISK of course.

I do want to add that I send small amounts which is what OP was looking to do as well..a thought just occurred to me..if you are concerned with theoretical X-ray, foil line your package or foil cover, put in thermos..there's a million ways..AT YOUR OWN RISK:)
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private corp runs much more xray. FOR FACT. And they have more dogs. For fact.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
puffdatchronic said:
I do wonder why anyone would start taking just about the only drug that is guaranteed to kill you eventually.. I hear the high is amazing.. but life is way more important
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Two issues. Guaranteed? sounds like drug warrior tripe.
The other is that it isn't about an amazing high, but the capacity to stop feeling, to escape a life gone no longer pleasant. The real irony is that doing opiates powerfully reinforces the anhedonia, the lost zest for life.
Not counting IV side issues and the narrow gap between really low and not breathing ... opiates are less destructive on the organism than major depressants or the speedies. Jmo. cn
 
HeartlandHank

HeartlandHank

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chronichitz420 said:
As a person who currently struggles with hard opiat addiction I feel your pain. About 6 months ago I was completely off of them for the first time in about 7 years it was the greatest I had felt in a long time but a relapse quickly changes that. I hope all goes well for you and even though you are a complete stranger I pray for a quick recovery. Smoke as often as possible it helps a lot with sleep and restless leg syndrome and just general pains. God bless and good luck.
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Thanks Chron. I appreciate that.
 
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CrownMeKing

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I've done lots of opiates and heroin especially, even though there's nothing like that feeling of scratching a good itch I don't like drugs that make you puke. I never know my limits and ended up in the hospital my last time doing it. Long story short I had just gotten fired and needed to get fucked up. But I could never see myself being addicted to the shit, guess it's just my mind state. Maybe not having it would be good but the withdraws are a pain in the ass, luckily when I was withdrawing I was in the Dam where they sell codeine syrup over the counter so it held me over.
 
BustinScales510

BustinScales510

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Ive been on suboxone a few years, my life has been way better on this than it ever was on oxy/vic/perc. I dont understand why people speak derisively of it (subox). Cold turkey is admirable, but being on suboxone is way safer than relapsing on other shit.
 
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schuylaar

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BustinScales510 said:
Ive been on suboxone a few years, my life has been way better on this than it ever was on oxy/vic/perc. I dont understand why people speak derisively of it (subox). Cold turkey is admirable, but being on suboxone is way safer than relapsing on other shit.
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Good post..but why years? Sub is a tool to bring you back down..not to maintain for life.:) IMO
 
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puffdatchronic

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cannabineer said:
Two issues. Guaranteed? sounds like drug warrior tripe.
The other is that it isn't about an amazing high, but the capacity to stop feeling, to escape a life gone no longer pleasant. The real irony is that doing opiates powerfully reinforces the anhedonia, the lost zest for life.
Not counting IV side issues and the narrow gap between really low and not breathing ... opiates are less destructive on the organism than major depressants or the speedies. Jmo. cn
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LOL "drug warrior tripe ". I am no drug warrior, the only drugs I haven't done are crack and heroin because I know how addictive and dangerous they are. Heroin especially. Maybe not "guaranteed death" ,but pretty damn likely it's going to fuck you or your life up eventually. So in conclusion don't do it to start with. Don't sit there and try and defend heroin dude, it's just LOL.
 
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schuylaar

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atidd11 said:
fedex and ups are used by ppl in cali.. Thats y they r always getting caught. Ive used usps over 100 times and never had an issue. And ive got cuttings in the mail also..
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LOL and I "lost" something with USPS which was coming my way and never showed..to each his own..what's your snail mail secret to getting through?..I've heard all sorts of thing with US mail.
 
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CrownMeKing

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schuylaar said:
And why would u say that? They are the lowest rated among those in the canna industry..google it..there are stats..give me a good reason why USPS is better.
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Canna industry? Meaning they're the lowest ones who move cannabis? I'd highly doubt that because of UPS and FEDEX strict policies and just the sheer mass of mail going through USPS.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
puffdatchronic said:
LOL "drug warrior tripe ". I am no drug warrior, the only drugs I haven't done are crack and heroin because I know how addictive and dangerous they are. Heroin especially. Maybe not "guaranteed death" ,but pretty damn likely it's going to fuck you or your life up eventually. So in conclusion don't do it to start with. Don't sit there and try and defend heroin dude, it's just LOL.
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Defend it? I'm free of it. I do maintain that some of the other classics ... alcohol stands out as an example, but meth is so much more quickly addictive ... are worse addictions.

There's also the personal-response angle. Until I got disastrously mistreated for another disastrous mistreatment (all at the hands of doctors), I was able to take the narcotics prn for good reasons. I didn't fall down that arbbit hole until i was put on steady high-dose oxy. And the stimulants, like meth, don't do much for me at all.

Except Wellbutrin. It's truly one hell of a drug (for me!), if you know how to use it wrong in the just right way. :mrgreen: cn
 
BustinScales510

BustinScales510

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schuylaar said:
Good post..but why years? Sub is a tool to bring you back down..not to maintain for life.:) IMO
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Because I probably wouldve started on other opiates again. Besides getting you through withdrawal (or rather transferring your addiction) it blocks the effects of other opiates. I actually tried it once,I took a bunch of vicodin and didnt really feel anything. Knowing that I cant get high on opiates freed up a lot of mental energy.
 
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