Get a Harvest Every 2 Weeks

FlipAPenny said:

Do you think you could find more info on this and create a link to it? I wouldn't be able to do it myself, I don't have the backyard for it. I do think it would be cool to see if there are pics!

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I found this today while browsing.. ebay of all places

This will give you an idea of what it looks like... www.hydroponic-growrooms.co.uk - Growing Containers

Help me out here AL B FUCT.....OK i was planning on doin something similiar to this. I have 2 250w HPS's right now and i was goin to have 2 mothers under 1 of my 250w hps. And IM GOIN TO BUY SOME FLOURO TUBES FOR MY CLONEBOX. Then for the flowering trays since i only have 1 250w HPS left to cover all 4 flowering trays how many more 250w setups do i need? Im only getting 250w setup because i can get them on sale right now for $35. Also you said you keep the mothers Vegging on 24/7? Does the clonebox stay on 16/8 or 24/7? Does SoG require a screen like screen of green? If so, what is the best method for me to do since i have 250w hps's and am planning on getting more? Also how big/how many gallon are the Pots for the Mothers and the flowering trays?

EDIT: Also after you takr clones from the mothers can you put the rooted clones with the mothers in the constant Veg. room instead of a clonebox?

sorry for all the "?'s"...lol

Well I guess Al B Fuct.

Well, Al B. hasn't been around in several months. He's Down Under recuperating from polishing off a keg of Fosters.

str8_pimpin said:

Help me out here AL B FUCT.....OK i was planning on doin something similiar to this. I have 2 250w HPS's right now and i was goin to have 2 mothers under 1 of my 250w hps. And IM GOIN TO BUY SOME FLOURO TUBES FOR MY CLONEBOX. Then for the flowering trays since i only have 1 250w HPS left to cover all 4 flowering trays how many more 250w setups do i need? Im only getting 250w setup because i can get them on sale right now for $35. Also you said you keep the mothers Vegging on 24/7? Does the clonebox stay on 16/8 or 24/7? Does SoG require a screen like screen of green? If so, what is the best method for me to do since i have 250w hps's and am planning on getting more? Also how big/how many gallon are the Pots for the Mothers and the flowering trays?

EDIT: Also after you takr clones from the mothers can you put the rooted clones with the mothers in the constant Veg. room instead of a clonebox?

sorry for all the "?'s"...lol

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Your 250w HPS lights will work great. Just figure that you need 1 for every 2x2 area of canopy in your flowering room.

I keep my mothers and my vegging plants on 18/6. My flouro rooting area is lit 24 hours.

SOG doesn't require a screen like in ScrOG. Since your plants are kept small, and close together, they usually don't need support.

answer to EDIT. Take the cuttings from the mother, put them under flouros (~10-20w/sqft flouro) until rooted and showing new growth. Then you can put them with the mothers to veg.

HTH

thanks i thought i never would get a response. So how long does it usually take for the clones to root-up? and when i put them with the mothers how long do they Veg.? i thought that you take the clones, let them root under fluoro's then throw them into flowering please be detail about what time and how long for each process. what about the 2 week by 2week process. Thanks a million bro.

in sog you can and would put the freshly rooted clones straight into your flower room. that will stretch the first 2-3 weeks.

if you want to veg them first then they will go with your mothers, for howeverlong you want. but usually this depends on your light setup. if you only have 250watts then you will lack penetration and will want small plants.

I am going to germinate sour diesel seeds. When can i take clones? i heard i have to let it flower the re-Veg. to take clones. is this true?

First of all, Al's system is using rooted cuttings for plants, not seed plants.

With a seed plant, you can take cuttings as soon as there are branches long enough to take and root. Then you can flower the seed plant, and toss the males along with their cuttings. Then you can start your perpetual growing.

Rooting a cutting takes about 2 weeks. They can go directly into flowering then, but they will end up very small. If you want larger plants, you will veg them for a few days to several weeks.

The biggest thing about a perpetual grow is getting the timing down. You've got to plan everything out and do each task on time for it to work properly.

HTH

Thanx for being the designated answer man pot. I think Al said something about an injury. One other thing to consider if you are trying to set up this system is the strain you are growing. Al is growing sweet tooth(sorry forgot the number, I think its 3). It must mature with 8 weeks in flowering.
Both of you report using nutrient in your block as well, which I'm sure speeds the process, and just plain makes sense, they aren't seeds the are 'genetically' at least four week old plants.
I'm growing ww for the most part. Flowering time according to the seed company is 12 weeks to maturity. So I use the system modified to fit my strain. My clones spend four weeks in vegging under 18/6 light, then go to the flowering room. Three tables in the flowering room, call them 2-4 if you like, and spend 4 weeks on each table. At least that is the plan. So far its working.
Part of the reason for the slow progress, was not PICKING MOTHERS EARLY. Its only taken my a year to do that. I have five of them now and will take my first clones from them today. Do as Potroast has suggested, it will save you a year.

Good pics, it totally drives the point home.

ok well Victor and Potroasty i am not growing sour diesel. i just ordered Purple Widom from the Doctor yesterday. i hope it has the 8 week maturing process man...

EDIT: i just seed it has 8week thingy. but its not really recommended indoors....this good or bad? how long you think the flowering time is? heres the link Purple widow seeds - white widow crossed with purple power

Well, it doesn't matter how long the maturing time, you can adapt the timing for any strain that you are growing.

For instance, I use a 10 week flowering time for my planning, and I have 2 stages in the flowering room, so I start a crop every 5 weeks. I used to do it with 3 stages in flowering, so I did a crop every 3 weeks, on a 9-week schedule.

HTH

Isnt it weird how each strain is so different in clone times. My usualy aero plants strain root in 3 -5 days max but Blueberry took 12 days and was a bitch lo. I cant image vegging for 4 weeks my plants would be hugs I go maybe 10 days max thats about 14-18 inches and full already then 5 week flower and harvest.Im doing aero and now an old fashion dirt but may bring 1 of my 4 x 8 tables out of retirement for old times sake lol

Good thread Ali B fcut.

I love your set up.. if i was to copy the setup but instead of using 20 plants per tray only use 5 per tray giving me a max of about 20 plants in the cycle. and maybe 2 mothers and cutting about 7 clones.

would I still need to use two 1000w bulbs for the flowing room or can I use less? as the herp would be for my personal use, i would not require a lage amount of plants..

as I am new to indoor growing and SOG. can you tell me if you made you flood Hydro system or purchased one. there are so many diffrent designs. could you point me in the right direction for my kind of set up


Kind Regards

Welshspencer

welshspencer said:

Good thread Ali B fcut.

I love your set up.. if i was to copy the setup but instead of using 20 plants per tray only use 5 per tray giving me a max of about 20 plants in the cycle. and maybe 2 mothers and cutting about 7 clones.

would I still need to use two 1000w bulbs for the flowing room or can I use less? as the herp would be for my personal use, i would not require a lage amount of plants..

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Your problem with this would be the difference of the heights in the plants. You wouldn't need two 1000watt lights for 20 plants. You could offset the difference in height if you used containors the you could raise or lower as they grew. there are flood and drain table tops you can buy that are smaller than 4' by4'. Or you could build your own. To get an idea of how to do this you could view a post I made In DIY section of FAQ (upper left hand corner of this page) of how to build a flood and drain table.

as I am new to indoor growing and SOG. can you tell me if you made you flood Hydro system or purchased one. there are so many diffrent designs. could you point me in the right direction for my kind of set up

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Kind Regards

Welshspencer

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Hope this helps. Welcome to the forum.VV

there doesnt appear to be any posts on the flood and drain table in the DIY section. either that or im missing it, if there isnt, is there a thread somewhere on here that someone can direct me to able the construction of such tables, and the pumps and such i would need to run it?

well...I'll bfuct, your right it isn't there. I know I posted it, guess it didn't make the grade. I will not post it again, and I'm not a computer guy, so I can't link you to it. You could click on my name and find all threads started by... I think there are like two of them. VV

thats a great system and this page will be bookmarked for future review, as of late my supplies are short on grow, and my area was recently discovered

I like what I see from setting it up this way. It isn't anything different then the pros use. He laid it out very well for a small hobby operator. Unfortunatelu Al is spending time in another forum. If you read all the threads he has posted and follow the plan, you may want to stop by and tell him. I know I will be doing so. VV

Thanks VV.

I could not find the section in the DIY to see how to build one..