Genetic selection and the truth of it all.

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Ok I have for yrs always wondered why people scuff at weed when you tell them that it is hydro and people just brush you off. I mean, it seems to me that if you offer someone a decent bud for a good price (where I live good dro will go for 10-18 a gram) they are like, "well that is just herb nothing more, nothing less" I have always hated this. Especially when the dude you get it from has a grow room you have been into. (but you cant exactly take ppl to see it to prove your point now can you)
So what do you guys/gals do??

Secondly is there a decent way to determine your genetic strain, say when your plant is about to start to flower, or it is completely in full bloom, is there some kind of manual or webpage that shows ALL the different variations. I would like to be able to label my plants when they get bigger. Seems to me ALL herb is a genetic strain of somekind right?

Lastly, how common is it for ppl to say "well I have this .... kind of plant" And actually they are just making shit up. They think that there plant looks very similar to some kind of kickass strain so they claim that is what they have. When actually they got a nice piece of wild ditchweed or an altogether differnt strain that smokes like a pack of smokers choice. (that nasty cheap ass pack of smokes)
I am growing somekind of strain now, so I want to be able to label my plants, IF and only IF they are an actual clean genetic strain. And not some plain jane.
Quesions comment please, do tell, do tell.

I'm considered a reasonably intelligent person. I have no idea what your talking about.

I was hoping frmrboi knew what you were talking about so he could explain it to me.

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Hobbes said:

I was hoping frmrboi knew what you were talking about so he could explain it to me.

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Maybe if I get REALLY high too I'll be able figure it out

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yeah im confused as well when you sell weed and say its 'dro' people in the know will assume you dont know what your talking about. no one cares what medium it was grown in. the strain is more important than the method besides soil done properly is the best quality anyways. as far as the rest of the post i dont know what youre asking or telling sorry.

This is a mystery!

I'm going to break his code down to sentence fragments to see if a pattern immerges ......

Ok I have for yrs always wondered why people scuff at weed when you tell them that it is hydro and people just brush you off.

People do this because they either don't believe you or don't care, no doubt inwardly sighing at what they perceive to be a lame marketing technique whereas you are giving them the information they need to make an informed buying decision. Not very appreciative people.

I mean, it seems to me that if you offer someone a decent bud for a good price (where I live good dro will go for 10-18 a gram) they are like, "well that is just herb nothing more, nothing less" I have always hated this.

Hey, talk to Ricky from the Sunnyvale trailer park, best weed in the park and people will still go to the mall to buy a $6 gram rather than get permium bud for $12 a gram. Crying shame.

Especially when the dude you get it from has a grow room you have been into. (but you cant exactly take ppl to see it to prove your point now can you)

If you've been to the guys grow room don't ever buy from him again, he's too stupid to stay out of prison and my want you to sleep on the bottom bunk if you're roommates.

So what do you guys/gals do??

Nothing.

I don't sell but I do know from my buying days that if the bud is good people will drive for hours to knock on your door. If it's not that good go down to the mall and sell for $6 a gram.

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OK, so how'd I do? Does it seem like I understood what he was thinking, even if his words don't correspond to his thoughts?

give us a minute emerly, we'll solve this dilemma!

On to section 2 ...

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"Secondly is there a decent way to determine your genetic strain, say when your plant is about to start to flower, or it is completely in full bloom, is there some kind of manual or webpage that shows ALL the different variations."

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Translation: can I determine strain by visible or olfactory characteristics.

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Some experienced growers could, or someone very familiar with your strain, but without that experience, most likely not.

Some things to look at:

Height: indicas are usually shorter than sativas

Smell: Berries, skunk, cat piss, cheese ... will give hints as to family

Flowering period: indica dominant are usually shorter than sativa dominant.

ColoUr: Blue family, white family, other coloUrs - narrow the possiblities

etc

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I would like to be able to label my plants when they get bigger.

Are they your plants or the guy who lets you into his grow room?

Seems to me ALL herb is a genetic strain of somekind right?

ummmm .... yeah. Most things that are alive are I'm pretty sure.

Tell us about your plants - physical characteristics - height, leaf appearance, coloUr, smell, etc.

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Lastly, how common is it for ppl to say "well I have this .... kind of plant" And actually they are just making shit up.

Around here, the forum, not very much, we mostly buy our seeds from breeders and some guys breed themselves. For a dealer, 100%.

Can you PLEASE tell all the dealers in your area that there is NO marijuana strain called Hydro, it's a method of growing but not a name of a strain. Sort of drives me mental when I hear it. Thank you.

They think that there plant looks very similar to some kind of kickass strain so they claim that is what they have. When actually they got a nice piece of wild ditchweed or an altogether differnt strain that smokes like a pack of smokers choice. (that nasty cheap ass pack of smokes)

This ^ is with the above stuff right? To backup or describe the dilemma? OK.

I am growing somekind of strain now, so I want to be able to label my plants, IF and only IF they are an actual clean genetic strain. And not some plain jane.

Quesions comment please, do tell, do tell.

You will, most likely, never know what strain you are growing unless the person giving you the seeds tells you. A distinctive Blueberry taste, overwhelming Diesel smell every time you open your stash jar, when ever you vape a bowl your dog comes over looking for cheese will be hints but the actual strain may always be a mystery.

You may be able to determine family - sativa dominant or indica dominant - from characteristics like I mentioned above. Or you could post a picture here along with the physical characteristics and someone might recognize it if it's distinctive in some way.

Finally, by "an actual clean genetic strain. And not some plain jane. " - I assume that you mean a strain from a commercial breeder, not bag seed from some unknown garbage strain that came from bag seed. It doesn't matter. You could have a poor weak Kali Mist pheno and a phenominal unkown bagseed that the clone only breeders would trade you a bucket full of kine to possess a cutting. Take a clone as a mother, lable the clone and the mother, keep the mother if it's good weed. As you get more into growing upgrade your mothers to the strains you like the best, and only lots of vaporizing/smoking/eating will let you know that.

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Thank you hobbes, that was very informative. You basically answered all my questions that I had. Maybe what I had typed "said" was a bit hard to digest but you seemed to spit out exactly what I was looking for. Thank You

About the dude with he grow room, he was a really old guy that had a massive green thumb. He has since passed away but he kind of used a sog method but different. I really couldn't explain it really well as it was very complex. He used a piping system that drew water from a natural well, it had almost a perfect 7.0 ph balance and the water was crystal clear. Was the best shit I have ever had. But I had only started smoking maybe 2mnths before. SO anything that early on is good ehh... LOL He was a friend if your wondering how after 2mnths I managed my way into a grow room. By the way he had at least 20 plants I think, and yes he was busted several times over maybe 30 yr period. He had cancer really bad so the cops usually just took his shit and fined him. They knew he was gonna die eventually but he lived YRS longer than his doctors expected. Always made me wonder if weed helped him in some way. "Other than pain of course"

" Maybe what I had typed "said" was a bit hard to digest but you seemed to spit out exactly what I was looking for"

No worries, I get so high while, or before, on here and look at my posts and think "Who wrote that?"

"he lived YRS longer than his doctors expected. Always made me wonder if weed helped him in some way."

It may have, there's research using THC (not sure if alone or complete cannaboid package) to kill brain tumors because it kills cancer cells like chemo therapy, but unlike chemo it leaves healthy brain tissue alive and healthy. Maybe he was just happier while high and growing his garden so he wanted to live longer.

Good luck with your endevor, post some pics of your plants at various stages so we can guess the strain!

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Will do, and again TY!!!!

Can you PLEASE tell all the dealers in your area that there is NO marijuana strain called Hydro, it's a method of growing but not a name of a strain. Sort of drives me mental when I hear it. Thank you."

I 2nd the motion.

Peace
Purpanaire

yep i under stand that, ppl refer to it as such. dumb stuff YES, smart ppl NO

Hehehe.. NICE Hobbes..
Emerl56 .. even though you cannot tell the exact strain (not to mention there are thousands of varieties abound), the only point I think that is significant is what the THC yield winds up to be after harvesting the best possible (most healthy) plant of the strain in question .. there are methods to test the final percentage yield but they are only qualitative unless you have major experimental hardware.. however you can boil a bud and then allow all vapors to dry and the thickness of the resin will give an estimate as to the potency (lookup making hash)... or use a microscope to check out trichome size and density .. however both of these measures will not be absolute but only via comparison to another strain.. laterz