GDP Almost There?...

At this early stage of my experience (just 2 grows) I found my plants needed anywhere from 1 to 3 more weeks past the hyped up flower times.
In fact, I would use the seller's estimated flower time as a base line minimum from where you can expect to add an additional 1-3 weeks past that date. That hype is quite real to a newbie and we run with it! LOL

BobHasBurgers said:

At this early stage of my experience (just 2 grows) I found my plants needed anywhere from 1 to 3 more weeks past the hyped up flower times.
In fact, I would use the seller's estimated flower time as a base line minimum from where you can expect to add an additional 1-3 weeks past that date. That hype is quite real to a newbie and we run with it! LOL

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Flower time is pretty much bullshit across the board.
Not to say i havent had a fast finisher that was done when it was "scheduled", but most times it isnt even close.
Cant understand why they even bother because all it does is leave people disappointed with their grow, and that breeder.

Hollatchaboy said:

It's funny how the OP gives him a thumbs up, with bad info, and us, he gives a hard time, and we have the right info.

I believe from now on, I'll just let noobs fend for themselves. It'll be less of a headache... at least for me. Lol

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I had to figure out what an "OP" was to follow the comment. So Hollatchaboy possibly suspects I approve and follow because of thumbs up on a comment he disagrees on. I was being nice and acknowledging that I read and understand what he says. I can see how that might of been misinterpreted as my accepting gospel truth on the subject. I had no idea it left that impression on others. Well, had it been someone else, I'd be happy to tell them they'll never undo that shit.

BobHasBurgers said:

I had to figure out what an "OP" was to follow the comment. So Hollatchaboy possibly suspects I approve and follow because of thumbs up on a comment he disagrees on. I was being nice and acknowledging that I read and understand what he says. I can see how that might of been misinterpreted as my accepting gospel truth on the subject. I had no idea it left that impression on others. Well, had it been someone else, I'd be happy to tell them they'll never undo that shit.

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That's usually how it goes down. Don't take offense. It just gets tiring telling people how to straighten out their problems, just to get told that you're wrong, or that somebody else is right.
I don't mind helping those who are willing to help themselves also.

I forgot to mention these in the corner.
So there was four different strain plants that wouldn't fit into the 4x2 when I began my second grow. And I have two little ones outside with buds growing! And I don't know how to grow this plant outdoors! Just going to roll with it for now. I guess I can post pics of those two outdoor plants later. The four seedlings include:

(1) Mendo Purp I grew from seed which I pulled from a bud!
(1) Blue Dream grown from seed (Rocketseeds dot com)
(1) Jack Herer (Rocketseeds dot com)
(1) White Widow (Rocketseeds dot com)

I transplanted them into 1 Gal. pots and kept them there into flower. I figured I'd be finding out how good/bad 1 Gal. pot would yield me. I knew it was going to be impossible to do with those plants what I did with my 5 and 7 gal pots but I had nowhere else to put them but in my second and final 2x2 with 100 w. spider farmer. Results were OK given smaller growing space and lighting but a lot of TLC. Let's push these along! I would like to succeed at this little bunch of plants as I would like to experience Blue Dream and White Widow for the first time using my own home grown. Would also be nice to see that Mendo P finish well (although smaller yield) as I smoked the bud that seed came from Enjoy the pics in order.

My germinating seedlings brought surprises today May 18th. Looks like my third grow, of four plants, will include the following seedlings assuming none lost:

(3) Gorilla Glue #4 (Rocketseeds)
(1) Mendo Breath (Seed plucked from another bud back in March and saved until now. Just popped May 18th!) This seed has Seymour all over it! I mean its aggressive growth and size!
(1) Cereal Milk (Seed plucked from another bud!)
(1) Jack herer (Rocketseeds)

A member in another forum suggested I throw out all these little ones grown from bud seeds. I'm so new to this and so ignorant of genetics its frustrating but a genuine adventure for me. He thought I took the seeds from my own plants and suggested they were hermies. The seeds were taken from a 1/2 oz. baggy of flower. Although I'm moving into my third grow, I've never had anyone say any of my countless number of photos had hermie plants. So apparently even this Mendo P below is a no go and must go!

Just one word of advice, give your seedlings more light. These are on day two and are under a 240w quantum board full pelt 24" away (around 35k lux/600umol/s). They shouldn't stretch that much. These haven't been buried either. Giving them more light will also speed up veg a bit giving a slightly shorter run time.


This one is under an 11w desk lamp at 12" for 8k lux/160umol/s for a comparison to a full powered quantum board, and it's not anywhere near as stretched, still taller than the others due to the low lighting intensity. Perhaps a cheap lux Meter will help with lighting intensity, as those seedlings were very thin and stretched.



I've never had to bury/ add soil or support a seedling or had one stretch out more than an inch to the cotyledons, a bit of light goes a long way. They are all 36 hours old.

BobHasBurgers said:

A member in another forum suggested I throw out all these little ones grown from bud seeds. I'm so new to this and so ignorant of genetics its frustrating but a genuine adventure for me. He thought I took the seeds from my own plants and suggested they were hermies. The seeds were taken from a 1/2 oz. baggy of flower. Although I'm moving into my third grow, I've never had anyone say any of my countless number of photos had hermie plants. So apparently even this Mendo P below is a no go and must go!

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A single seed or three isn't going to be an issue. You seem very keen to keep either giving plants away or finding reasons to toss them. Stop being so hard on yourself. I'd keep the mendo for sure.

Just check for nanners (female pollen sacs) and remove them. If it is from stress rodelization, you will get some female seeds out of it.

I've had an ak420 and a GDP that had a few seeds here and there each from a female pollen sac or two, and I would have never considered binning them. The smoke was fire, and they didn't effect any of the other plants.

If it is a proper genetic hermaphrodite you would have noticed male anatomy at nodes early flower.

Some of the best plants I've grown were from plants that underwent rodelization late flower and threw a handful of seeds. That's how they create female seeds in the first place. They stress a plant with colloidal silver or silver thiosulfate until it throws pollen sacs and use that pollen to impregnate itself or another plant.

I was told to bin these due to being unhealthy 10 days before this shot by a few members here, and these two autos (GDP and blackberry gum) in a 2x4 pulled close to a pound at the end of the day.

This was the GDP auto on the right in the photo at harvest day in its own 2x4. Glad I didn't listen or trash it. That GDP had around 20 seeds and a few nanners, was told to bin it due to the sacs.


Chasing perfection at this time in the game will be a big hindrance.

@VincenzioVonHook - I will keep Mendo, dry and cure it, then I'm gonna smoke it! However, moving forward, Until I have space to play and gamble with, going to stay away from the hermie seeds, for now, no matter how attractive. I have limited space to be taking that much risk. And with my limited space (2x2 and 2x4 tent) I can't be messin' too much with genetics. Sticking to quality feminized photos for now.
I do love the pics and story about your suggested trash plants ak420 and GDP. Happier ending than was suggested if you didn't toss them.
Thank You for your help!

VincenzioVonHook said:

A single seed or three isn't going to be an issue. You seem very keen to keep either giving plants away or finding reasons to toss them. Stop being so hard on yourself. I'd keep the mendo for sure.

Just check for nanners (female pollen sacs) and remove them. If it is from stress rodelization, you will get some female seeds out of it.

I've had an ak420 and a GDP that had five or six seeds each from a female pollen sac or two, and I would have never considered binning them. The smoke was fire, and they didn't effect any of the other plants.

If it is a proper genetic hermaphrodite you would have noticed male anatomy at nodes early flower.

You seem to be taking things way to hard and to heart.

Some of the best plants I've grown were from plants that underwent rodelization late flower and threw a handful of seeds. That's how they create female seeds in the first place. They stress a plant with colloidal silver or silver thiosulfate until it throws pollen sacs and use that pollen to impregnate itself or another plant. There is a big difference between stress rodelization and genetic hermaphroditism.

I just think your way to keen to give up or throw plants away for no reason.

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Agreed. Grow the plants. Learn from mistakes.

I'm gonna smoke those! The scent today required I open tent and windows! All good.

BobHasBurgers said:

@VincenzioVonHook - I will keep Mendo, dry and cure it, then I'm gonna smoke it! However, moving forward, Until I have space to play and gamble with, going to stay away from the hermie seeds, for now, no matter how attractive. I have limited space to be taking that much risk. And with my limited space (2x2 and 2x4 tent) I can't be messin' too much with genetics. Sticking to quality feminized photos for now.
I do love the pics and story about your suggested trash plants ak420 and GDP. Happier ending than was suggested if you didn't toss them.
Thank You for your help!

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't fem seeds, from hermies?

I don't know. When I bought my first seeds online last October, I went with photoperiod seeds that were also labeled feminized. Hopefully someone comes along and clarifies.

Took my GRAV glass for a spin this weekend. Grow #2 still drying/curing before weigh in. Packed a bowl of some Sluricane into 14 mm bowl. Recently added an ash catcher to this flat bottom piece.
Cheers!

New totals on my second grow experience. Grand Daddy Purple came in a hair or two over 7 oz. The mother plant was my first grow and came in at 3.2 oz. total. I also had a few 1 and 3 gal. plants with a White Widow and Bubba Kush averaging 1 oz. each.
Pictured here is GDP. So how does this smoke? Well, despite apparently being a indica dominant strain, I've had several test smokes of this batch and what a mind f***! It smokes like a strong sativa every time! It doesn't come with the couch lock I tend to avoid. And this shit lingers, in the brain, for a couple of long hours.

More pics to come!

Pleasant surprise in the mail today. Herbies successfully delivered my next grow project seeds:

(10) White Widow (Dutch Passion)
(5) Silver Haze (GHS)
(6) Gorilla Glue freebie

On my third grow, I plan on 4 plants in a 2x4x60 and 1 plant in a 2x2x58

Germination for White Widow and Silver Haze begins today, June 10, 2021. Will update this post with new link to that grow. If you've been part of this chaotic growing journey of mine, I thank you, and sincerely appreciate you chiming in. The way many of us newbies approach and perceive the project is usually way off the mark. I learned a little of those lessons on my own but you guys were the majority of my guidance!

By the way, I just smoked my first home grown Jack Herer, and I can barely type this message with my fingers feeing melty and gooey as they stick and stretch across the keyboard. Frickin' high as shit. This is gonna be a fantastic day and weekend. I can feel it. I've needed this for so damn long.

Grateful for the experience of my first two grows and still shake my head at what I wasn't going to learn until I actually got started. Still amazed at how easily the plants recover after weaving them through scrog netting. Astonished over that one branch I broke and taped back together producing a huge cola! Ya'll taught me that.

I'll return when we have seedlings

Great Peace To You! Have a great smoke and cup of nirvana.

BobHasBurgers said:

Pleasant surprise in the mail today. Herbies successfully delivered my next grow project seeds:

(10) White Widow (Dutch Passion)
(5) Silver Haze (GHS)
(6) Gorilla Glue freebie

On my third grow, I plan on 4 plants in a 2x4x60 and 1 plant in a 2x2x58

Germination for White Widow and Silver Haze begins today, June 10, 2021. Will update this post with new link to that grow. If you've been part of this chaotic growing journey of mine, I thank you, and sincerely appreciate you chiming in. The way many of us newbies approach and perceive the project is usually way off the mark. I learned a little of those lessons on my own but you guys were the majority of my guidance!

By the way, I just smoked my first home grown Jack Herer, and I can barely type this message with my fingers feeing melty and gooey as they stick and stretch across the keyboard. Frickin' high as shit. This is gonna be a fantastic day and weekend. I can feel it. I've needed this for so damn long.

Grateful for the experience of my first two grows and still shake my head at what I wasn't going to learn until I actually got started. Still amazed at how easily the plants recover after weaving them through scrog netting. Astonished over that one branch I broke and taped back together producing a huge cola! Ya'll taught me that.

I'll return when we have seedlings

Great Peace To You! Have a great smoke and cup of nirvana.

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Congratulations, smoking your own is a life changing event!

100% germination as of Sunday morning 12, 2022. Very aggressive and strong start!
5 White Widow and 3 Gorilla Glue
During my last second grow, I had one little White Widow that I thought might of been stunted early on but I kept it. It moved up to a 3 gal. pot and I left it there alongside the GDP. I just sampled this beauty (pic with jar below) after curing and I'm blown away. WTF! is this?!? This beautiful thing is stronger than the GDP and Jack Herer for sure. Wild ass sativa effects. Rushed a couple of nugs over to a neighbor and WOW.
No words to describe my excitement about filling the next tent with 4 large White Widow plants
Returning with link to new grow soon!