Galactic Alignment

Padawanbater2

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Why can you not grasp the concept that just because we do not have a fully understood or agreed upon solution to the problem, IT DOES NOT MEAN EXTERNAL FORCES DID IT.

As mentioned earlier, all the other examples are EQUALLY AS LIKELY to be responsible because there is EQUAL AMOUNTS OF EVIDENCE to support it, NONE.

The only reason you think it's aliens or God or something outside of humans is because you have been conditioned to think that. You don't think it's monsters or invisible interdemensional beings, why? Because you haven't lived in a society that's been pushing that idea on you your whole life. Why do you think of aliens as smaller beings with frail bodies and big heads and eyes? Because you've been conditioned to think that by society in the exact same way.

3 scientists, even if they were 100% credible with zero marks against their record doesn't mean shit in the scheme of things. AND AGAIN you're using a formal logical fallacy, (PLEASE READ THE GODDAMN LIST OF LOGICAL FALLACIES SO YOU STOP USING THEM WITHOUT REALIZING THEM, here, this will help (if you fucking read it);
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_logical_fallacies ) argument from authority. Even scientists can be wrong, surprise surprise! The argument ALONE should stand by itself, not who presented it. All they've been able to do is the exact same thing you have, point out there's something that hasn't been completely answered yet, then simply saying "well, I'm pretty sure no humans on earth could do that, so it has to be aliens" - and that part, right there is where they fuck up. Because any real scientist would say "well, I'm pretty sure no humans on earth could do that, so... lets keep digging and see if we can find more... ". There is nothing linking "I don't know what this could be..." to "...aliens", no line from A - C. They're completely missing part 'B' in that scenario.

So again, why is this so difficult for you to understand? You keep bringing up the exact same arguments again and again even after being pointed out why they are flawed. Do you simply not care that they're flawed and are happy to continue on believing a flawed argument? Do you disagree that the arguments are flawed? What?
 

tyler.durden

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^^ I think he understands logical fallacies very well, Pad. When he peppers his posts with them it makes for better trolling. which is his only goal. He's certainly not here to teach or learn anything...
 

Doer

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Then why bother? You have given up on us. The feeling is mutual. Only Trollishness is left. Stooping to insults about your grasp of reality. Very funny.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Then why bother? You have given up on us. The feeling is mutual. Only Trollishness is left. Stopping to insults about your grasp of reality. Very funny.
Why bother INDEED. Why bother questioning "irrational" beliefs? Their only irrational according to science, which is a tiny form of growing knowledge that hasnt even come close to figuring out the universe, so basing all your information on science is irrational as well. Whos to say Im not sparking interest in the theists here? They keep quiet because they'ed rather not put up with the egotistic bullshit and "rationality" that skeptics throw at them. Saying you're more rational than someone else according to science is pure ignorance.
 

Zaehet Strife

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Theres not much you can learn form people so oblivious of reality lol
Because the bull shit you are trying to teach "or present" is never based on facts. Give us something factual backed up by credible evidence, tell us that inertia is a property of matter and explain how that is so, and we will be like oh shit! Fuck yea bro keep it comin!

Tell us someone/something mystical/supernatural made the pyramids and were going to be like...dude, you are fucking retarded.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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Because the bull shit you are trying to teach "or present" is never based on facts. Give us something factual backed up by credible evidence, tell us that inertia is a property of matter and explain how that is so, and we will be like oh shit! Fuck yea bro keep it comin!

Tell us someone/something mystical/supernatural made the pyramids and were going to be like...dude, you are fucking retarded.
UMadBro? I wouldnt doubt it. Your true mentality became apparent when I informed you of the spiritual significance of your tattoo. "IM RIGHT! YOU'RE WRONG! FUCK YOU!" lol man its great when true colors shine through. I know it holds no point to whats being discussed here, I just bring it up in hope that the TRUE Zaehet Strife shows himself again =).
 

Padawanbater2

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Why bother INDEED. Why bother questioning "irrational" beliefs? Their only irrational according to science, which is a tiny form of growing knowledge that hasnt even come close to figuring out the universe, so basing all your information on science is irrational as well. Whos to say Im not sparking interest in the theists here? They keep quiet because they'ed rather not put up with the egotistic bullshit and "rationality" that skeptics throw at them. Saying you're more rational than someone else according to science is pure ignorance.
I'm not sure what you're expecting.. Do you expect every single question that could ever possibly be asked be answered by science otherwise that means everything already answered by science is false? How does that work exactly?

Why do you use such a strict and defined set of standards to accept anything on a scientific basis, but give pseudoscience and nonscience a free pass to credibility? Do you see the inconsistencies here? Do you understand why that will not and CAN NOT lead to an accurate portrayal of reality?

There is no other greater tool to use to discern reality than the scientific method. I would personally argue there is no other tool in existence to discern a true and accurate account of reality other than the scientific method. All other methods lead to false answers.

I challenge you to name one true piece of information we've obtained without utilizing the scientific method.

And it's pretty ironic those claiming absolute certainty are the ones telling the guys claiming doubt egotistical. Quite ironic indeed!
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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I'm not sure what you're expecting.. Do you expect every single question that could ever possibly be asked be answered by science otherwise that means everything already answered by science is false? How does that work exactly?

Why do you use such a strict and defined set of standards to accept anything on a scientific basis, but give pseudoscience and nonscience a free pass to credibility? Do you see the inconsistencies here? Do you understand why that will not and CAN NOT lead to an accurate portrayal of reality?

There is no other greater tool to use to discern reality than the scientific method. I would personally argue there is no other tool in existence to discern a true and accurate account of reality other than the scientific method. All other methods lead to false answers.

I challenge you to name one true piece of information we've obtained without utilizing the scientific method.

And it's pretty ironic those claiming absolute certainty are the ones telling the guys claiming doubt egotistical. Quite ironic indeed!
"Challenge accepted!" Said god =p
 

Doer

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Why bother INDEED. Why bother questioning "irrational" beliefs? Their only irrational according to science, which is a tiny form of growing knowledge that hasnt even come close to figuring out the universe, so basing all your information on science is irrational as well. Whos to say Im not sparking interest in the theists here? They keep quiet because they'ed rather not put up with the egotistic bullshit and "rationality" that skeptics throw at them. Saying you're more rational than someone else according to science is pure ignorance.
Name calling and general histrionics is beneath you. So, sparking interest? How's that working out? We can discusses this quite maturely, but homework is needed. I'm not saying my research ability is any better than yours. I simple never stop. I'm a skeptic about everything, including my own damn self. :)

So, ego is met with ego. A wise man humbly describes his own experience.
 

Doer

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Universally eh? God is the universe sooo...
That's unfortunately is cultist logic. There is the universe. But, it's long stretch indeed to say that is what religion calls God.
The Creator is the Creation? Now you sound like me. Perception is Conception. Agree?
 

Padawanbater2

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Universally eh? God is the universe sooo...
I'd suggest you brush up on those reading comprehension skills, Chief, you seem to have missed the entire second part of the post.

"...like gravity or mathematics."

God is not universally agreed upon like gravity or mathematics is. Clearly, as there are over a billion nonbelievers in traditional gods/religions on earth.

Try again, and leave the circular logic out of the equation this time.
 

Chief Walkin Eagle

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That's unfortunately is cultist logic. There is the universe. But, it's long stretch indeed to say that is what religion calls God.
The Creator is the Creation? Now you sound like me. Perception is Conception. Agree?
What religion calls god is a long stretch from what god is, except Hinduism and Buddhism I guess, Jesus was probably right too. But his teachings were twisted and corrupted by man, Im sure he did an epic facepalm when he realized he created a religion. I only claim to know this based on experiences that you're well aware of. And yes, I agree... I think... lol.
 
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