"Full spectrum" led questions...

itsraininbuds · Dec 15, 2016

I decided to try out led's for this grow and I bought this 150w that says it has "full spectrum". While I understand what that means I'm have no idea how to really apply that to the method I've been using, in which you switch out bulbs according to what state of growth it's in (grow or flowering). So do I just hook this led up and let it do its thing or do I use it at specific times? I'm sure a quick look on you tube would clear up most questions but I thought I'd ask some experts in a forum I can trust. Thanks!

Olive Drab Green · Dec 15, 2016

itsraininbuds said:
I decided to try out led's for this grow and I bought this 150w that says it has "full spectrum". While I understand what that means I'm have no idea how to really apply that to the method I've been using, in which you switch out bulbs according to what state of growth it's in (grow or flowering). So do I just hook this led up and let it do its thing or do I use it at specific times? I'm sure a quick look on you tube would clear up most questions but I thought I'd ask some experts in a forum I can trust. Thanks!

Plug it the fuck in already. The only things you manipulate are light, food, water, temperature, and humidity.

18/6 or 24/0 for veg, 12/12 or 10/14 or 11/13 for bloom.

:eyesmoke:

Olive Drab Green · Dec 15, 2016

It may or may not yield only about an ounce max, if that's not 150w of COB LED. Depends on what you're really looking for.

mauricem00 · Dec 15, 2016

that 150 watt probably uses less than 75 watts from the wall. keep it 12 to 18 inches above your plants and just start growing with it. this ain't brain surgery.

itsraininbuds · Dec 15, 2016

Well yea I get that. But what I'm asking is, do I use the light throughout the veg and flower states? I just don't want them to start flowering early. The light comes off pretty redish/pink and that has me thinking it's going to make them flowers early. Idk wtf I'm doing with these led's yet dude

Olive Drab Green · Dec 15, 2016

itsraininbuds said:
Well yea I get that. But what I'm asking is, do I use the light throughout the veg and flower states? I just don't want them to start flowering early. The light comes off pretty redish/pink and that has me thinking it's going to make them flowers early. Idk wtf I'm doing with these led's yet dude

Yes, veg and flower. Don't sweat the spectrum. The time makes it flower, not so much the spectrum.

itsraininbuds · Dec 15, 2016

mauricem00 said:
that 150 watt probably uses less than 75 watts from the wall. keep it 12 to 18 inches above your plants and just start growing with it. this ain't brain surgery.

Yea I never said it was. I was just asking for help. Thanks though

itsraininbuds · Dec 15, 2016

Olive Drab Green said:
Yes, veg and flower.

OK thanks for the help bro

mauricem00 · Dec 15, 2016

itsraininbuds said:
Well yea I get that. But what I'm asking is, do I use the light throughout the veg and flower states? I just don't want them to start flowering early. The light comes off pretty redish/pink and that has me thinking it's going to make them flowers early. Idk wtf I'm doing with these led's yet dude

vegging and flowering are controlled by light cycles 18on 6 off for veg. 12 on 12 off for flowering.even autos don't start flowering until they're ready

Hybridway · Dec 16, 2016

itsraininbuds said:
I decided to try out led's for this grow and I bought this 150w that says it has "full spectrum". While I understand what that means I'm have no idea how to really apply that to the method I've been using, in which you switch out bulbs according to what state of growth it's in (grow or flowering). So do I just hook this led up and let it do its thing or do I use it at specific times? I'm sure a quick look on you tube would clear up most questions but I thought I'd ask some experts in a forum I can trust. Thanks!

The cheap burple lights that say they cover 11-12 bands or whatever are not actually full spectrum. It's a sales Gimick.
Edited:
Burple was originally designed by Apache led through NASAs' findings about plants growing w/ red + blue. Then other companies like Advanced for example added the other colors here n there (limited to none on the green like Platinum) to call it full spectrum.
True full spectrum is either white or enhanced white. One of the reason why white cobs are so popular.
McCobs are burple.
If your new light has a veg & flower switch it's meant for them both to be on together when in flower usually for the best results & highest power output.
The Reds do assist in triggering the fruiting phase although it's achieved primarily through timing of the light cycle.
Good luck!

puffenuff · Dec 16, 2016

Hybridway said:
The cheap burple lights that say they cover 11-12 bands or whatever are not actually full spectrum. It's a sales Gimick originally designed by Apache led through NASAs' findings about plants growing w/ red + blue. Then they added the other colors here n there (limited to none on the green) to call it full spectrum.
True full spectrum is either white or enhanced white. One of the reason why white cobs are so popular.
McCobs are burple.
If your new light has a veg & flower switch it's meant for them both to be on together when in flower usually for the best results & highest power output.
The Reds do assist in triggering the fruiting phase although it's achieved primarily through timing of the light cycle.
Good luck!

To my knowledge, Apache Tech never called their red + blue panels full spectrum. Not sure where you ever saw them advertising their red+blue lights as such. Apache actually was one of the first led companies that I know of that came out with white and white enhanced with red. Please don't lump them into the blurple category and state that they started any kind of sales gimmicks

Hybridway · Dec 16, 2016

puffenuff said:
To my knowledge, Apache Tech never called their red + blue panels full spectrum. Not sure where you ever saw them advertising their red+blue lights as such. Apache actually was one of the first led companies that I know of that came out with white and white enhanced with red. Please don't lump them into the blurple category and state that they started any kind of sales gimmicks

No, don't get it wrong. I'm speaking back to the beginning of the burple phase. That's how it all started.
Basically just a history lesson there.

puffenuff · Dec 16, 2016

Hybridway said:
No, don't get it wrong. I'm speaking back to the beginning of the burple phase. That's how it all started.
Basically just a history lesson there.

"It's a sales Gimick originally designed by Apache..."

That's what you said. Might not have been what you meant, but that's what you said. And it's not true.

Hybridway · Dec 16, 2016

puffenuff said:
"It's a sales Gimick originally designed by Apache..."

That's what you said. Might not have been what you meant, but that's what you said. And it's not true.

It's history bud. Yes, Apache started the whole burple epidemic.
Just read into it. It's one of the first things I learned when studying led almost 2 yrs ago.
Obviously they've moved past that & it's less relivent to today's lights, but it is what it is.
Maybe I should add that they may not have intended for it to be a Gimick. Allot of that had to do w/ r+b being cheaper to produce & led companies taking advantage of Apaches research through NASA along w/ Chloro-Peaks. They were the first to promote only R+B being all that's needed & claiming they would produce the highest spectral efficiency hence allowing other companies to offer less efficient lights based solely on spectrum. Not to mention whites were very inefficient to use & produce at the time.
That's how it started.
Doesn't make them bad now.

puffenuff · Dec 16, 2016

Hybridway said:
It's history bud. Yes, Apache started the whole burple epidemic.
Just read into it. It's one of the first things I learned when studying led almost 2 yrs ago.
Obviously they've moved past that & it's less relivent to today's lights, but it is what it is.

All I'm saying is that they didn't "design a sales gimmick." Or start an epidemic. If that's what you think happened, that's fine. I'm more than happy to leave you to your opinion. Just wanted others to know that it wasn't the case.

Hybridway · Dec 16, 2016

puffenuff said:
All I'm saying is that they didn't "design a sales gimmick." Or start an epidemic. If that's what you think happened, that's fine. I'm more than happy to leave you to your opinion. Just wanted others to know that it wasn't the case.

Ok. That works. I'm sure there's a better way to have worded it. There were quite a few factors that contributed to the burple phase. Although it started w/ NASA & Apache. What other companies did w/ that discovery is another story.
Edited that statement. You were right. I read it over & I said it wrong in a few ways that were incorrect.

Hybridway · Dec 17, 2016

This was sold to me by Hydroponics Hut last year as full spectrum burple. Has green but definitely not full spectrum.
Plants love it on veg but flowered horribly.

Reading this will show you a prime example of false claims. They got me.
Total garbage.

fROGGled · Dec 17, 2016

Hybridway said:
Ok. That works. I'm sure there's a better way to have worded it. There were quite a few factors that contributed to the burple phase. Although it started w/ NASA & Apache. What other companies did w/ that discovery is another story.
Edited that statement. You were right. I read it over & I said it wrong in a few ways that were incorrect.

No it did not start with Apache :roll:

. Stop saying that. Philips is to "blame" for blurple and it still "haunts" universities, labs and growrooms all over the world today. Look at those "moron" PHd's, electronics engineers and lighting fellows at Electronics Weekly awarding that blurple POS Plessey Attis-7 it's 2016 LED Lighting Product of the Year.

http://www.hortidaily.com/article/30810/UK-Plessey-wins-LED-Lighting-Product-of-the-Year&c=4358581280639028788&mkt=en-g

Thank god for stoners like you keeping it straight for all of us.

Hybridway · Dec 17, 2016

fROGGled said:
No it did not start with Apache . Stop saying that. Philips is to "blame" for blurple and it still "haunts" universities, labs and growrooms all over the world today. Look at those "moron" PHd's, electronics engineers and lighting fellows at Electronics Weekly awarding that blurple POS Plessey Attis-7 it's 2016 LED Lighting Product of the Year.

http://www.hortidaily.com/article/30810/UK-Plessey-wins-LED-Lighting-Product-of-the-Year&c=4358581280639028788&mkt=en-g

Thank god for stoners like you keeping it straight for all of us.

So, you're telling me Burple didn't start w/ NASA? Who was the first led to work w/ NASA?
Cuz I read pretty deep into it a few years ago.
This goes back some 10 years ago.
Btw, nobody thinks you're funny.
Do you have anything at all to offer this forum aside from trolling?
What do you grow with?

fROGGled · Dec 18, 2016

^^^
Blurple didn't "start" with NASA though NASA has been trying to grow with LEDs since the 80's.
Go check NASA's archives.
BTW No one thinks you're sincere.
Do you have anything to offer besides shilling?
I grow with DIY blurple and blue-pumped phosphor based "white" LEDs. Gee I wonder what lights you use?????????????

Love how fuckin' high Marty is in this one.

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