From over watering to some deficiency.-

I still has no idea what's up with them, they 1/5th of the size of their sisters or smaller, it is outdoors on the balcony, I live in spain. I water them when the pot feels light enough, note that this is a copy paste from a post I made on a group, since I got no answer a buddy showed me this forum.

Hey guys, so I had a bit of over-watering problem, changed to 3x sized pots and that seems fine now, anyhow it started growing some black spots that looked like fungi but i got some spray mix that took that away, anyhow now i got something that looks as a deficiency and i'm not certain what it is, i think one of the plants is sentenced to death, the second one I has no idea, I hoped the spray mix stops it but not that much. Here a couple pics. Thanks in advance. I will add few pictures from few days ago in a comment to not mix them.

Also, as note, I added some nitrogen then threw away the earth and added growshop earth which seemingly was full of it, I also give them from time to time rootener and now the spray mix, I'm thinking about phosphorus deficiency, thinking about some eggshell powder, it has both phosphorus and the calcium needed for it to be absorbed.
I also had them in about 2m separation when I started observing this, however present disease looks a bit different, they closer to eachother now at about 35cm and 25cm in height. On another side note i think it was black looking on the "healthy" plant too but those disappeared and only these on the edge survived, contrary to the small one where the black thing evolved into brown, exactly where it was black before, anyhow there was no black poweder before the new disease evolved this strong.

Also, there is quite small amount of light here, you get about 3 hours on each spot except the 3rd where you get about 5 hours, i mean direct sunlight, I used to move them to always have sun I didn't do that for two days now, I think they do get 5 hours of direct sunlight. (note that I live in spain so this would get quite stronger)
I'm uncertain whats the right amount of direct sunlight, could perhaps find a place with more or less hours but no idea if more or less.

Also, as sad note, they have two sisters that were germinated at same time, they look like trees comparing so I'm not sure if to even keep bothering and should get a bunch of autos or no time for me to grow anything.
Using the pot as example the sisters are twice the size of the pots in all senses, while mine would barely fill half.

As another note I really hope and for now is so, even on the badlooking one new leaves don't seem to yet have contracted anything. Sorry for the bible this was last.
Edit: I just noticed at the well looking one quite a few leaves have this on their tips but not all, anyhow more than had the black thing in the same spot exactly, I were told to give the spraymix each 15 days
Note that the picture with the joint under the pot is 2 days old, it did have some lookings of the black thing spoken up but not on all the leaves it showing now, other pics are from today.

3rd picture is probably root rot caused by overwatering ........ that plant's dead.
I don't see any disease on the other plants, droopy due to overwatering.

On the first picture you should see a bit of of dead leave on the edges if you zoom it.

andulolika said:

On the first picture you should see a bit of of dead leave on the edges if you zoom it.

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If you think it's disease, just cut half the leaf off.
I often lose a bit off the end of a leaf or two, means nothing.

That's actually how "the small one" was left with the amount of leaves it has, they were almost the same. I will wait till tomorrow and If I don't see any other leave growing it i'll let it be.
Thanks. edit: as a side note, after i realised the over watering i went straight away bought bigger pots and put them with earth alone, perhaps took 24h for everything from overwater to potchange and no water after. Anyhow, the eggshell dust should do only good right? My day put on his normal plants a bit and all of them went to nice green from almost dead.
Edit2: While the "healthy" plant is developing those things seen in first pic in about 20% of leaves the new leaves look WAY greener than the old ones, Think this is gunna be great then . Will update.

Hmm I just remembered, the same day i took pic number 2 i changed the earth and roots looked fine, I observed the sentenced one has it's new leaves with the same effect, I just hope it doesn't spread on new leaves on the healthy one. Eggshells were washed, dried and powdered, i sprinkled about a gram over the soil of both. Will update with pics tomorrow see if it evolved at all, hope it doesn't look as new what i didn't picture today but ill let yall know what wasn't there yesterday in about 12h, its 23:34 here.

The camera never shows the actual green tonality, it looks way better than its been since the overwatering problem.
I cut the two leaves (one on each side) that were in the down part, the new leaves that grew are decently big and amazingly green now, anyhow while the tips of the leaves stayed fine some older leaves started showing a bit the simptoms the dead one showing, anyhow they gone and seemingly doing better, will get more pictures as i see things evolve. Also, I will keep modifying this post for a while (with pictures) to not bump the thread and spam. If I bump again means something went wrong.
EDIT: I keept looking and im leaning again towards the phosphorus deficiency, I bought some really big matches I really hope it isn't harmfull phosphorus, the eggshell should have enough calcium to make it easy to take by the plant.

Alright, new leaves grew big are amazingly green (can't be seen on any pic) but the leaves that are growing on top they are very tiny so didn't see it till now, they are growing dead with the exact same look the "dead" one has, with the slight difference that the leaves are straight up and still have power to stay so (perhaps because they are so small) I will update this post with a picture within minutes. I'd really love to know if im dealing with a disease. Alright uploaded, on the first pic should be seen the tiny leaves dying, forgot to take picture of the new ones which 90% look perfect (with exception of a leave i saw) On the other hand since the morning it became WAY greener i believe.
Note there might be a tiny bit of earth over the leaves I don't wanna touch them too much. Thanks a lot for the help, it lifted my moral a lot, and im quite sorry about the spam . Edit: I can see one of the new leaves on the big one clearly having the same effect. So the past disease doesn't seem a problem but now there's too many nutrients?

One is dead as expected, this one is healthy as hell now, it also survived nutrient burn after everything, cheers folks!.

Hey guys, long time i'll show you a pic of her after all this time doing great.

i has something strange going on with my autos tho will upload pics shortly, btw that was in the morning waken it was out of water, eats water like crazy edit: cant get it on camera well but they def lacking green

Alright so I got few pics here, the autos besides the lack of green i think im encountering a manganese deficiency, each of the two autos has two different simptoms, on the one closer to the big one has since it was young few white spots, i from time to time take the leaves so i only has an example, anyhow the other one was way more accentuated, note that now the spots are red.
The second one, the one closer to me behaves a bit differently, the leaves tend to curl downards instead of inwards and it looks different on the leave, sometimes it looks like shiny rust in foil instead of leaf leftover.

I feel quite lost here as I already went to 3 or 4 defficiencies and I fixed them most with home made fixes but I found nothing for manganese, I'm today getting fresh batch of root strenghtener, seemingly you put it while it flowers too and they all 3 started making tiny white tentacles at about the same time. Haven't used any in almost a month last night gave a bit to each, they are indeed a bit better. The autos never had it except of residual amounts left in earth of the dead sister pot wonder if this might of helped.

I also read i should remove slowly affected leaves should i? It has quite a few of them but they aren't really in good shape so i feel like leaving them.

I tried with two different phones, can't see anything better.

I was being told it's too much nitrogen, i think since they didn't get root stimulant they couldn't cope with the amount of it as it stayed small, however doesn't seem its too much of it. Was also told to flush it with water but since its in the earth i tried just helping the plant grow with root stimulant and it worked some leaves are greener now, I'll make new pics tomorrow along with the germinated seeds, one is already in earth within 24h .