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323cheezy

323cheezy

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hanimmal said:
This is all under one thing economics, Keynesian gets tossed around like it is a political idea, but it just is not the case. But that was for the people that are reading that, I know where you were going with the Supply vs Demand because they both pull on each other.

I am 100% in favor of this health care bill. I was not sure what you meant by leveling it out, now I see you didn't mean make the salaries all the same, but to make sure that everyone is doing their part and the burden is not falling more on one group than the other.



Then why do you continue to defend that silly made up video.
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like i said i was a poli sci major....
i changed my major like two years ago ....
but i stilll remeber learning and changing my views on the gov.... i used to be like yogi fresh....kinda... but not as cute....lol

the leveling on the wealth part .. i bring up
cause the whole health care package .... which i admit i dont know much about.... is basically ..from my understanding.... giving health care to those who cant afford it....
people perhaps are skeptical cause they think were gonna tax the higher middle class and the rich more to pay for the lower middle class and poors health car....
that is my read threw the bullshit understanding....
free ride is it.... i dont know... putting money into the working classes health ... a good investment of taking the money and puuting it where it should be....hence l.o.w.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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You got close, it is just a insurance plan for everyone that does not have insurance already. That way they can get to the doctors and get treatment before it is turned into an emergency that way it is more affordable long term.

Short term it is more expensive but over the years that levels out due to catching issues earlier on.

The other parts of it are directed at stopping insurance companies from denying care that is needed through use of loopholes in the paperwork. That essentially bankrupts people.

Basically this is a way to use the same money that is already being spent and just directing it to what should be much better ends. Preventative care instead of the reactionary system that we have now.
 
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2ez

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well i feel that obama was put in office by the countless young people that came out and voted that were ready for a change from the bullshit of bush.
 
TheBrutalTruth

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hanimmal said:
You got close, it is just a insurance plan for everyone that does not have insurance already. That way they can get to the doctors and get treatment before it is turned into an emergency that way it is more affordable long term.

Short term it is more expensive but over the years that levels out due to catching issues earlier on.

The other parts of it are directed at stopping insurance companies from denying care that is needed through use of loopholes in the paperwork. That essentially bankrupts people.

Basically this is a way to use the same money that is already being spent and just directing it to what should be much better ends. Preventative care instead of the reactionary system that we have now.
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Health Insurance is not Health Care

Everyone already has access to Health Care

85% of the population has health insurance of their own
another 3% opt not to have health insurance despite easily being able to afford it.
Another 2% are in their 20s and are busy enjoying their lives
Another 3% of the population that is being included in the "uninsured" are illegal immigrants who should not be covered (especially not at the expense of the citizenry)
Another 2% is in constant flux, consisting of people inbetween jobs.
Yet another .6% are criminals in prison (who get government provided care and thus don't really count as "uninsured")
That leaves 4.4% that are uninsured, of those at least half actually qualify for the programs already in place, cutting the amount down to 2.2%.

(These numbers are just rough estimates based on what I have read about this)

For the sake of 6 - 7 Million we are going to socialize our healthcare?

Absurd. If the government wants that last 6 - 7 million covered why not just expand the existing programs? There is no need to socialize health care. If it is so concerned about treating the chronically sick, why not just expand Medicaid or Medicare to cover them, surely they are already on the disability list.

Unless the government is trying to kick them out of those programs, and force them to burden the rest of the population with the cost of their care. There is no need for this kind of medical reform.

There is especially no need for the kind of reform that is being proposed that strips individuals of their liberties and their freedom to choose how they pay for their care, or if they pay for their care.

More importantly, as this plan, being a government plan, will never be expired, then the people that support it are supporting an immoral system of bondage that will enslave their own children to the whims of the government.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but this plan, doesn't just set the path to hell, it conjures that unhappy place of suffering onto the soil of the United States.

Sic Semper Tyrannis, may they all die horrible grizzly deaths
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Health Insurance is not Health Care

Everyone already has access to Health Care

85% of the population has health insurance of their own
another 3% opt not to have health insurance despite easily being able to afford it.
Another 2% are in their 20s and are busy enjoying their lives
Another 3% of the population that is being included in the "uninsured" are illegal immigrants who should not be covered (especially not at the expense of the citizenry)
Another 2% is in constant flux, consisting of people inbetween jobs.
Yet another .6% are criminals in prison (who get government provided care and thus don't really count as "uninsured")
That leaves 4.4% that are uninsured, of those at least half actually qualify for the programs already in place, cutting the amount down to 2.2%.

(These numbers are just rough estimates based on what I have read about this)
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Rough estimates huh....
well i like truth ... hes definately a smart guy ....

I guess maybe im in that 3 % who can aford it but dont have it...
honestly .... i cant afford it....( my quality of life wouldnt be so great)
they would take too much money from my pay check...
maybe if i get a better job ill be able to pay for it ....
i never go to the doc anymore ....
cant aford it....
unless its serious than i guess ill have to pay ....
lets just say for sake of arguement .... i bake my leg .... im fuct and i probly couldnt work... and i dont know how i would pay the med bills....
so lets take the profits away from the corp who are charging way to much and put for the hard working americans ....
who dont make enuff to get out off a financial disaster.
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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323cheezy said:
Rough estimates huh....
well i like truth ... hes definately a smart guy ....

I guess maybe im in that 3 % who can aford it but dont have it...
honestly .... i cant afford it....( my quality of life wouldnt be so great)
they would take too much money from my pay check...
maybe if i get a better job ill be able to pay for it ....
i never go to the doc anymore ....
cant aford it....
unless its serious than i guess ill have to pay ....
lets just say for sake of arguement .... i bake my leg .... im fuct and i probly couldnt work... and i dont know how i would pay the med bills....
so lets take the profits away from the corp who are charging way to much and put for the hard working americans ....
who dont make enuff to get out off a financial disaster.
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Oh really? Well you stand on a pile of
"what I heard" shit, but yet you rather like "truth", but you whouldn't know what the hell the truth is, you just think it's what you hear.

COOL AID DRINKER!!
Like I said, these people need to "think" for themselves and not what seems popular to your peers.




323cheezy said:
like i said i was a poli sci major....
i changed my major like two years ago ....
but i stilll remeber learning and changing my views on the gov.... i used to be like yogi fresh....kinda... but not as cute....lol

the leveling on the wealth part .. i bring up
cause the whole health care package .... which i admit i dont know much about.... is basically ..from my understanding.... giving health care to those who cant afford it....
people perhaps are skeptical cause they think were gonna tax the higher middle class and the rich more to pay for the lower middle class and poors health car....
that is my read threw the bullshit understanding....
free ride is it.... i dont know... putting money into the working classes health ... a good investment of taking the money and puuting it where it should be....hence l.o.w.
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But yet again being an American would you want to have to pay for your neighbors power bill just because either A you have a job or B you make more? That is what you are implying, but I gurantee when you get the bill you won't think it;s such a hot idea.

It's stupid to say the wealthy should support "the working class" health care or what ever. Do a good deal of reading there on your own and just take it what the people around you say, I listen and laugh at how stupid they are. I love nothing better than someone with a obama sticker on their car, it only shows how stupid the owner is. Ive seen one around that says impeech obama, thats more like it, but really I want him to stay another 3 years, he will make belivers out of most of you, and some people really are too stupid and will never get it.
Im not going to go on about poor plp, some plp it is their fault they are that way and others are not.
I use to make well enough and now I am one of those poor people, being unemployed for almost a year does that to a guy, and everyone here I haven't taken any of your tax money for any gov services, I sold my hard earned toys to pay my bills, I dont even have a sofa to lay on, I donate blood plasma every week and do odd jobs.
I dont have any health coverage and cant get it being a cancer surivor and I've never thought a rich person should pay for me to have health coverage.
If I do get sick there is a clinic that is nice I can goto and has sliding fees, my wife had to go (she doesnt have health insurance either) and she had no problem getting help and it wasnt costly either.
There is no need for this health care bull shit he goes on about.
But thats ok wait until the gov tell you what you can and cant get done at the doctor and then they tell you you have to wait months to get it taken care of.

I really could go non stop on this and how you are soo soo wrong, but I dont need to, I let your buddy obama prove me right.

Dont take it personal, but how can you expect to defend "what i heard" what what I know as FACTUAL?? You claim to only want truth, there it is, it may be hard to accept, and it may kill you to admit your wrong, but you are.
Also learn to spell America, shit man aren't you suppose to be one?
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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323cheezy said:
Rough estimates huh....
well i like truth ... hes definately a smart guy ....

I guess maybe im in that 3 % who can aford it but dont have it...
honestly .... i cant afford it....( my quality of life wouldnt be so great)
they would take too much money from my pay check...
maybe if i get a better job ill be able to pay for it ....
i never go to the doc anymore ....
cant aford it....
unless its serious than i guess ill have to pay ....
lets just say for sake of arguement .... i bake my leg .... im fuct and i probly couldnt work... and i dont know how i would pay the med bills....
so lets take the profits away from the corp who are charging way to much and put for the hard working americans ....
who dont make enuff to get out off a financial disaster.
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Yeah lets teach them corporations it's not fair to make money...
brainless....

Do that and then why would they want to be here? They will move elsewhere and take all the tax money and jobs with them.
Who do you work for fool?
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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TheBrutalTruth said:
Health Insurance is not Health Care

Everyone already has access to Health Care

85% of the population has health insurance of their own
another 3% opt not to have health insurance despite easily being able to afford it.
Another 2% are in their 20s and are busy enjoying their lives
Another 3% of the population that is being included in the "uninsured" are illegal immigrants who should not be covered (especially not at the expense of the citizenry)
Another 2% is in constant flux, consisting of people inbetween jobs.
Yet another .6% are criminals in prison (who get government provided care and thus don't really count as "uninsured")
That leaves 4.4% that are uninsured, of those at least half actually qualify for the programs already in place, cutting the amount down to 2.2%.

(These numbers are just rough estimates based on what I have read about this)

For the sake of 6 - 7 Million we are going to socialize our healthcare?

Absurd. If the government wants that last 6 - 7 million covered why not just expand the existing programs? There is no need to socialize health care. If it is so concerned about treating the chronically sick, why not just expand Medicaid or Medicare to cover them, surely they are already on the disability list.

Unless the government is trying to kick them out of those programs, and force them to burden the rest of the population with the cost of their care. There is no need for this kind of medical reform.

There is especially no need for the kind of reform that is being proposed that strips individuals of their liberties and their freedom to choose how they pay for their care, or if they pay for their care.

More importantly, as this plan, being a government plan, will never be expired, then the people that support it are supporting an immoral system of bondage that will enslave their own children to the whims of the government.

The road to hell is paved with good intentions, but this plan, doesn't just set the path to hell, it conjures that unhappy place of suffering onto the soil of the United States.

Sic Semper Tyrannis, may they all die horrible grizzly deaths
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Nice
however wait till he overhauls immigration, there will be half of mexico on our "reformed health system" think about that...
more like tens of millions after that.
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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hey man chill.... your gonna have a hard attack...
im not saying im right or youre wrong.....
i just think that i educated myself and i can have an opinion just like you ..
i mean i could go and study the whole bill ... for what
im just a small fish man ... i aint on obamas shit either....
i could care less what he does... its not gonna change shit ....(i wish he could.... theres always room for improvement)
i like this country .... and im not gonna get my panties tied in a bunch cause the inventor of scrables having an off day ....
man it just sickens me too see such hatred .....
thats all..
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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It's not hatred, well not for you, what I hate is a good deal of plp are just not doing the right thing for the country.
I cant stand people getting mad because others make money but if it were turned around they would be so pissed and rightly so,
I think we should scrape the income tax and goto the fair tax. That's a whole diffrent thing, but for 1 thing illegals would be paying
as much taxes as everyone else weather they liked it or not and they would be a great way to keep them from coming over and
getting on the govt tit.
I just smoked a bowl and had a shit day, I dont hate ya or nothing.
Yeah Im picking on you a bit, just about done.
basically fair tax is you dont have any state/fed taxes when you go somewhere and buy stuff and any retail store your gonna pay like 27% in
sales tax. HANG ON A MIN, yeah I know everyone is gonna be like FUCK THAT. but think it though,
low/mid class is paying 30-35% or more of their earning to just fed taxes (doesnt include if you own a home and pay prop taxes and city/county taxes)
(see it's already cheaper the fair tax way)
them you pay 6-10% currently at retail, so before you know it your close to paying 50% of your wages back into the gov, do the math you may pay more.
Ok rich plp pay over 50-65% of their earning into taxes (assuming they are ligit here and not full of shit).
SO
with the fair tax everyone is paying less into taxes BUT everyone is paying when they buy shit.
It removes the IRS from power as well (this is exactly why it wont ever fly)
it makes the country and awesome place for business and BANG you got jobs
more rev less plp on welfare/unemployment and more plp paying those taxes every time they
pull out the wallet.
There are other great perks, this was just a nice one for the economy.
its soo much deeper but its better than the fucked up taxes we are dealing with now.

323- peace my Bud, I do have to stand up for what I believe in,
I'm only this way for the common good, not because I'm a prick (I am a prick tho).

happy growing.
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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323cheezy said:
im shocked.....:o
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yeah dude I'd write stuff like that, you know they sniff that shit out..... they being the guys in suits that are above the fb1....
it's funny how people fling that gay shit around, man I'm too secure in my masculinity for that middle school stuff.:clap::leaf:
 
323cheezy

323cheezy

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Phenom420 said:
It's not hatred, well not for you, what I hate is a good deal of plp are just not doing the right thing for the country.
I cant stand people getting mad because others make money but if it were turned around they would be so pissed and rightly so,
I think we should scrape the income tax and goto the fair tax. That's a whole diffrent thing, but for 1 thing illegals would be paying
as much taxes as everyone else weather they liked it or not and they would be a great way to keep them from coming over and
getting on the govt tit.
I just smoked a bowl and had a shit day, I dont hate ya or nothing.
Yeah Im picking on you a bit, just about done.
basically fair tax is you dont have any state/fed taxes when you go somewhere and buy stuff and any retail store your gonna pay like 27% in
sales tax. HANG ON A MIN, yeah I know everyone is gonna be like FUCK THAT. but think it though,
low/mid class is paying 30-35% or more of their earning to just fed taxes (doesnt include if you own a home and pay prop taxes and city/county taxes)
(see it's already cheaper the fair tax way)
them you pay 6-10% currently at retail, so before you know it your close to paying 50% of your wages back into the gov, do the math you may pay more.
Ok rich plp pay over 50-65% of their earning into taxes (assuming they are ligit here and not full of shit).
SO
with the fair tax everyone is paying less into taxes BUT everyone is paying when they buy shit.
It removes the IRS from power as well (this is exactly why it wont ever fly)
it makes the country and awesome place for business and BANG you got jobs
more rev less plp on welfare/unemployment and more plp paying those taxes every time they
pull out the wallet.
There are other great perks, this was just a nice one for the economy.
its soo much deeper but its better than the fucked up taxes we are dealing with now.

323- peace my Bud, I do have to stand up for what I believe in,
I'm only this way for the common good, not because I'm a prick (I am a prick tho).

happy growing.
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no im sorry man for fudging that stuff....
after all u said your not a bad person....
and i think theirs alot of validity to what
your saying....
i didnt mean to call u a racist ....but im mexican and i was born here and my parents were born in texas..... after it was taken from mexico..... so thats why i had to make a stupid joke....
I dont think anyone should have to pay for other ppl shit .... thats not what im saying.... my beef is with the super rich who are manipulating the whole system..... fuck obama..... before he was elected i new it was a gimmick.....
but dont hate on the guy i respect his character and it just doesnt make sence to blame him for any wrongdoing....

and one last thing ...
you sound like an old man .... your a year younger than me.... peace:leaf:
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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323cheezy said:
no im sorry man for fudging that stuff....
after all u said your not a bad person....
and i think theirs alot of validity to what
your saying....
i didnt mean to call u a racist ....but im mexican and i was born here and my parents were born in texas..... after it was taken from mexico..... so thats why i had to make a stupid joke....
I dont think anyone should have to pay for other ppl shit .... thats not what im saying.... my beef is with the super rich who are manipulating the whole system..... fuck obama..... before he was elected i new it was a gimmick.....
but dont hate on the guy i respect his character and it just doesnt make sence to blame him for any wrongdoing....

and one last thing ...
you sound like an old man .... your a year younger than me.... peace:leaf:
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No harm, no Im just 26 but I use to be a small business owner, so I've been on a few sides here and I realise how things work as far as economics go.

obama should be blamed for all his wrong doings, and unfortunatly we can't hold him up to making it right.

Bush was blamed plenty, of course he fucked up plently, mainly by listening to that fuck head chainey, thats a whole diffrent ball game there and I dont wanna open a closed book, gotta look ahead.

I dont like it when everyone throws the race card around and accuses me of things, I am partly racists, mainly, people act the way you did, since you know I'm white I must hate you so therefore I'm the enemy. That thinking makes anyone racist, makes them want to stay segerated.
Not to even mention from where I'm from plp are already assumed to be racist.
I hate more white people than any mexicans or black people put together.
However I am guilty of profiling, thats how I get my hooks ups and know when not to hang somewhere too long, but hey if you aren't the part dont look it ya know.

I usually ignore insults and so on, but the topic is really touchy, I get way too heated on politics, I shouldn't. Im not publically active, of course I try my damnedest to lay low and not draw any attention to myself.

I agree I cant stand the corupt (the rich plp the manipulate the system) now that's totally diffrent, I think they should crack down and issue nice long hard black cock up the ass prison time for that.
Like a madeolf guy, stealing all those billions from charities and everything plp had, he should actually be killing in my opinion, he ruined loads of lives. Anyways Im gonna smoke up,

323, your a good sport man, we coo, no hate. Your right you are entitled to your own opinion and I'm sorry I wasn't more tolerant of it, that's the prick in me.
 
TheDemocrat

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Phenom420 said:
LMFAO
leveling out the wealth so you think a fry cook at mcdonalds should make the same as a doctor huh? Thats leveling out the wealth.

Your a fucking moron and I don't share your gay tendencies, nor do we share anything, so I'll flat out ignore you from here on out.
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the fry cook at McDonalds should be able to make a decent living as a fry cook. McDonalds only made $1.09 billion in the second quarter, surely they can afford to pay a living wage.
 
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TheDemocrat said:
the fry cook at McDonalds should be able to make a decent living as a fry cook. McDonalds only made $1.09 billion in the second quarter, surely they can afford to pay a living wage.
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lol i would think soo to, but this country was built on credit and runs on debt
 
Phenom420

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TheDemocrat said:
the fry cook at McDonalds should be able to make a decent living as a fry cook. McDonalds only made $1.09 billion in the second quarter, surely they can afford to pay a living wage.
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They are a corporation, so they make money. I mean come on like you are gonna pay a fry cook $15 a hour, I use to work that line of work and i worked at long john silvers for $5.20 when i was a teen so shit lets not go there. life is hard, more for some than others, people have to deal with that and not be so envious of people around you.
People back in the day didnt make shit either, nothing is really changing in that dept.
Notice when gas goes up eveyrone uses it as a excuse to raise prices, yet when gas falls prices of stuff usually dont (food mainly is what I notice) now that pisses me off.
Gas was $4 last year a gal or so and some food was cheaper last year than this year, I mean come the fuck on.
Macshitalds has to deal with all that as well. They also do DONATE shit loads to communities and stuff, yeah its just PR but they do more so than most.
I dont eat there myself as I dont eat out PERIOD, it's not food they serve, but I care about my health, so if I had my way there would be fry cooks outta a job so shame on me lol, jokin a bit there.

Also there are gov programs for plp not making ends meet, what pisses me off is I have a dealer that collects 1600 SSI when he sits at home jacking around selling dope and getting his wife pills. That pisses me off more than anything, he doesnt have any problem either other than he was a raging meth head for 12 years.
 
hanimmal

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What the people that call for fair tax don't seem to get is that if it is attached to sales tax, that affects you more the lower your income goes.

Think about the unused income. How much unused as a % do you have left over after you pay for ever bill you have, then what happens with that money?

Lets take me as an hypothetical example. Our Household income used to be $60k a year. But now we are up to $170k a year. But none of our living expenses have changed other than school loans being repaid and a better car and a few other things. So we went from $5,000 to $14,166 a month in the fair tax scheme. So although grand total we would pay another $1300 a month tops in the upgrading of loans and cars, I still have another $9,166 extra unused income a month.

So now under the Fair tax system I can simply save that money in some stocks and bonds and get some great growth from that extra money that I don't need to spend.

So what do I mean? If I am paying 30% sales tax on that extra 1300 a month that I am spending, it equates to $390 extra spend over what was being spent at $60k a year.

So even though I had almost no saved income to reinvest when we had $60k, lets assume that I did and was able to save $10k a year under the free tax system.

That 10k is 16% savings. And I paid about $15,000 (30% of the 50k) in taxes (or 25%).

At $170,000 paying slightly more for everything means out of the 50k I had spent before + the $1300 extra per month I am paying $19,680 in taxes a year or now about 12% in taxes of my total income. Not taking into consideration that I am now able to have a savings rate of about $104,400 a year or 61%. That money can now be grown so that the numbers in my favor go up even higher.

So under the 'Fair' tax system I now am able to save at 61% while only paying 12% in taxes. And grow that saved money. While before I was only able to save 16% and paid 25% in taxes.


Now people may point that I am more likely to increase my possessions and buy more expensive stuff and that will make me pay more taxes. But that is not always the case. Taxes are a way to curb behavior. This system would definantly help us to be a more savers society, which is very good and would help to put that money into the economy to work which is another great thing.

But to say that it would be fair is wrong. It puts the tax burden onto the lower income brackets.


I am all for working hard and smart to make more money, booming businesses, healthy economy. But at the same time we need to fix the systems that are not working. As a society we pay so much money into the insurance/health system that it should work for everyone. To deny that we are already spending the money on people with no insurance/affordable (government subsidized) health care is wrong. The emphasis just needs to go from insurance companies being able to deny the care upfront by denying insurance to people that need it, or by canceling peoples insurance once they need the care through loopholes.

Also there are gov programs for plp not making ends meet, what pisses me off is I have a dealer that collects 1600 SSI when he sits at home jacking around selling dope and getting his wife pills. That pisses me off more than anything, he doesnt have any problem either other than he was a raging meth head for 12 years.
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This is a perfect example of ways to cut government spending and reallocating those funds to people that do need it. Another example right on tv is all those scooter commericals for people on medicare. They are using the government insurance to help scam the system in order to sell more scooters to anyone even "If your medicare denies your claim we will work with them and get you your scooter for free". They are scamming the system right infront of the public.

Everything else aside, this is a bill that is simply curbing the bad behavior of the insurance companies while providing affordable health insurance coverage to the people that need it, aka everyone because nobody is invincible. Even those 20 somethings that think they are.
 
Phenom420

Phenom420

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hanimmal said:
What the people that call for fair tax don't seem to get is that if it is attached to sales tax, that affects you more the lower your income goes.

Think about the unused income. How much unused as a % do you have left over after you pay for ever bill you have, then what happens with that money?

Lets take me as an hypothetical example. Our Household income used to be $60k a year. But now we are up to $170k a year. But none of our living expenses have changed other than school loans being repaid and a better car and a few other things. So we went from $5,000 to $14,166 a month in the fair tax scheme. So although grand total we would pay another $1300 a month tops in the upgrading of loans and cars, I still have another $9,166 extra unused income a month.

So now under the Fair tax system I can simply save that money in some stocks and bonds and get some great growth from that extra money that I don't need to spend.

So what do I mean? If I am paying 30% sales tax on that extra 1300 a month that I am spending, it equates to $390 extra spend over what was being spent at $60k a year.

So even though I had almost no saved income to reinvest when we had $60k, lets assume that I did and was able to save $10k a year under the free tax system.

That 10k is 16% savings. And I paid about $15,000 (30% of the 50k) in taxes (or 25%).

At $170,000 paying slightly more for everything means out of the 50k I had spent before + the $1300 extra per month I am paying $19,680 in taxes a year or now about 12% in taxes of my total income. Not taking into consideration that I am now able to have a savings rate of about $104,400 a year or 61%. That money can now be grown so that the numbers in my favor go up even higher.

So under the 'Fair' tax system I now am able to save at 61% while only paying 12% in taxes. And grow that saved money. While before I was only able to save 16% and paid 25% in taxes.


Now people may point that I am more likely to increase my possessions and buy more expensive stuff and that will make me pay more taxes. But that is not always the case. Taxes are a way to curb behavior. This system would definantly help us to be a more savers society, which is very good and would help to put that money into the economy to work which is another great thing.

But to say that it would be fair is wrong. It puts the tax burden onto the lower income brackets.


I am all for working hard and smart to make more money, booming businesses, healthy economy. But at the same time we need to fix the systems that are not working. As a society we pay so much money into the insurance/health system that it should work for everyone. To deny that we are already spending the money on people with no insurance/affordable (government subsidized) health care is wrong. The emphasis just needs to go from insurance companies being able to deny the care upfront by denying insurance to people that need it, or by canceling peoples insurance once they need the care through loopholes.



This is a perfect example of ways to cut government spending and reallocating those funds to people that do need it. Another example right on tv is all those scooter commericals for people on medicare. They are using the government insurance to help scam the system in order to sell more scooters to anyone even "If your medicare denies your claim we will work with them and get you your scooter for free". They are scamming the system right infront of the public.

Everything else aside, this is a bill that is simply curbing the bad behavior of the insurance companies while providing affordable health insurance coverage to the people that need it, aka everyone because nobody is invincible. Even those 20 somethings that think they are.
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OM shit man I know about those commercials they are like call us, YOU PAY NOTHING FOR YOUR SCOOTER, let us bill the tax payers lazy ass. Sorry but that shit shouldnt be covered, your glasses and contacts arent covered so y should that be.
Im not going into it again Im tokin up but RIGHT ON!
 
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