Free Tricks To Increase Yields.

panhead

Well-Known Member
I discovered a little trick purely by accident a couple of years ago that really does seem to work wonders. It's actually possible to worry or scare your plants into vigorous THC production. Not sure if it will work with all strains, taller growing plants may actually suffer slight negative effects due to this. Anyhoo here it comes.

I was growing some Skunk #2 and found that one of the fem's was a small straggly little bugger that I could not get to flower for the life of me so I lost it a bit and took it out of my grow chamber. I went upstairs cut eye holes out of my pillow case and placed it over my head so the plant wouldn't recognise me. This is where the science comes in. I ran down stairs like a crazed Van Dam on phet called the plant a bitch, offered the plant out and proceded to round house kick about an inch above the top of the stalk. After 30 or so round houses I noticed buds starting to form. After a bit of trial and error I found that the Pillow case and the name calling weren't doing anything. It was the round housing! I did this with all the plants and had my best ever crop..

As I said, it doesn't work with tall weed as it's very easy to kick off top bud off the plant. I've spoken to Howard Marks about this who reckons the plant starts to yield massive amounts because it respects your abilities but I stick by my scare tactic theory. Dwarfs and people under 5 2" should only try this on autoflowering strains and SOG. Cheers for reading, I hope it works for you.
Yup,you'll fit right in here.

Welcome abord.
 

panhead

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i might try this, my room is barely 2 feet from my HWH and is vented outside. i dont see any reason to fear for my life.

smokeberry - i see you come from the chuck norris school of growing:clap:
No reason at all to fear the method,should help your plants out quite a bit as well,it works fantastic for me.
 

puffntuff

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Also when venting into ur grow room try to seal it as well as possible otherwise leaks could go into other rooms where it might not be so helpful. Also you might to want exchange the air every once in awhile. Lol
 

AeroKing

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debating on if i should close this or not. i'd be called out for picking on people though, so i guess it stays open, ................... with this in mind ......... http://oikos.com/library/energy_outlet/backdraft.html#Backdraft
I thought about that, but it occurred to me that grow rooms are far more likely to be negative pressure environments than positive pressure. I feel it is unlikely that your grow room will cause a back draft.
 

Prince Zuko

Active Member
Panhead - really appreciate what you are doing, free yield increase is a great thing. however, could u just ignore the safety clowns who keep popping up? You spend more of your time giving them lip service than anything else.

Anyway, I don't have a water heater but I had a tip I read that I wanted to share. I am experimenting right now with adding an extra hour of lighting during the later weeks of flowering. I read that increasing the light by an hour for those weeks pushes the buds into overdrive. You want to ease it back to 12 12 for the last two weeks so they finish on time.

besides free how about cheap - blackstrap molasses. And Silica blast isnt very expensive, I am expermenting with both right now as yied boosters.

Smokeberry - you gave me the laugh of the day. I am working on a pillowcase right now. Do you think it increases yields by like 20 percent?
 

smokeybandit22

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panhead, I applaud your courage for starting this thread. most fail to realize that the hot water heater is not on 24 hours a day. I actually have a small wood stove that burns throughout the day on the first floor with a small bath vent fan mounted in the ceiling venting into the flower room. I leave the top plate-not the vet pipe-cracked a bit. not as clean as natural gas or propane, but does have desireble effects-extra heat as well.
so another free tip- if you have a wood stove, use it. obviously must be propely vented, but you can leave the door open or crack the lid abit if one exists. you cant really tap into the exhaust pipe as this would be muy mal.
 

macdadyabc

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panhead, i wasnt tring to be a dick. I think its a good idea as i said before, but i vent my growroom into my house( like many other people), and i dont like the idea of gas filling my house. You obviously have alot of knowledge in this area, and i dont.
 

genfranco

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panhead, i wasnt tring to be a dick. I think its a good idea as i said before, but i vent my growroom into my house( like many other people), and i dont like the idea of gas filling my house. You obviously have alot of knowledge in this area, and i dont.
Panhead has beena little uptight lately... LIke me im tired of the lazy people that dont want to take the time to read the post... he asks you not to post if you have fears... this is just a spot for simple tips.... now its like any other thread... Next some fool will come in here and ask what there plant needs if the leafs turn yellow... or worst the typical... can you really grow using cfls.... LOL... these people ruin threads. Please just read at least the first post before you just start being stupid.
 

NuclearWeld420

Active Member
If you know any free tricks or tips to increase yeild please post them here.

Please do me a favor,if you have nothing to contribute then please do not post in this thread about "your" fears,this thread is for people who have do it yourself ability & for people who understand how to install a hot water heater,if installing a hot water heater is not in the scope of your handyman ability then do not attempt.

Also,if you are the type who sees danger everywhere please do not post here unless you have a very firm understanding that all im talking about is to move the exhaust pipe to a new vent location, using common sense & an understanding of exhaust needing proper rise so it can vent,if the understanding of rise vs exhaust is out of your skill range then do not attempt.

This is just as safe as a regular hot water heater install so if you want to warn of danger please come prepared with hard nailed facts because there are people who understand how to vent a water heater who can use this in their grows, this application does not require very much skill to effect properly or in a safe manner,and it is not an explosion hazzard.



A trick i started using back before there was the internet was to make my own non regulated co2 & it has proven to work,not those shake n bake bottles of yeast but a steady supply that fills the room in large amounts several times a day,its a simple trick but requires that you have access to a gas operated water heater.

The vent pipe on top a water heater is where the burned gas fumes are vented out of the building,these vented gasses are very rich in co2,you take apart the exhaust pipe & re run it through the top portion of the grow room wall in a location where a fan can disperse the gas to the entire room,every time the water heater comes on to heat the water you get a massive shot of co2.

I have 2 bud rooms but only one room is within a distance where i can vent the water heater exhaust into the room so only one rooms gets the goodies,the differences between the 2 rooms is pretty easy to see,the plants with the exhaust are greener,grow faster & have a good percentage larger yeild over the non gassed plants.

If you are a doubter start reading up on what gas operated co2 generators are all about,look into how they are designed,there are differences but not that large,they both run on the principal of running in a non efficent manner which creates more co2 in the form of exhaust gasses,this shit works for real,no gimmiks,no tricks,no yeast & sugar ,just large amounts of free co2 that you can semi regulate intervals by regulating when you use hot water,every time you use hot water you increase the co2 levels.

I will post another trick ive allways used later this evening.
My question for this is what kind of fuel is being burned to heat the water??? If it is propane it will produce CO2 (Carbon Dioxide) as a waste by product. If you are using natural Gas like most homes these days. Well the waste by product from that is C2O2 (Carbon Monoxide) and that YES will KILL you. That is why they are vented outside. Keep us posted. As long as there is a exhaust vent from the grow room to outside, then there should not be a problem.
 

vicbudz

Active Member
I've looked for hours but could someone give me advice on finding the exhaust pipe on my electric water heater?.... :bigjoint:
 

Where in the hell am I?

Well-Known Member
I discovered a little trick purely by accident a couple of years ago that really does seem to work wonders. It's actually possible to worry or scare your plants into vigorous THC production. Not sure if it will work with all strains, taller growing plants may actually suffer slight negative effects due to this. Anyhoo here it comes.

I was growing some Skunk #2 and found that one of the fem's was a small straggly little bugger that I could not get to flower for the life of me so I lost it a bit and took it out of my grow chamber. I went upstairs cut eye holes out of my pillow case and placed it over my head so the plant wouldn't recognise me. This is where the science comes in. I ran down stairs like a crazed Van Dam on phet called the plant a bitch, offered the plant out and proceded to round house kick about an inch above the top of the stalk. After 30 or so round houses I noticed buds starting to form. After a bit of trial and error I found that the Pillow case and the name calling weren't doing anything. It was the round housing! I did this with all the plants and had my best ever crop..

As I said, it doesn't work with tall weed as it's very easy to kick off top bud off the plant. I've spoken to Howard Marks about this who reckons the plant starts to yield massive amounts because it respects your abilities but I stick by my scare tactic theory. Dwarfs and people under 5 2" should only try this on autoflowering strains and SOG. Cheers for reading, I hope it works for you.
Dude, I hate being short!:-(
 
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