"FREE" Great Soil Your Plants will LOVE

4eVa420

4eVa420

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soil that you cant go wrong with... go into the woods find a huge tree that has fallen over and were the roots used to be dig about 6-8 in down from the surface and collect soil its natural and you dont have to worry about bad fert in soil from stores also if a tree has grow there for hundreds of years the soil is in good shape + an endless supply
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growone

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strange, i have been thinking about this lately
but is this the soil the tree was in, or the decomposing stump? which would be some interesting compost
 
4eVa420

4eVa420

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i usually take about 3/4 from were the tree was rooted then take1/4 from the stump ..its like adding natural nutes ill be posting a video of the soil in action i put 3 seeds in it last night and 2 of them are alredy about 2'' tall
 
bamfrivet

bamfrivet

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When you do that do you bake the soil to make sure you aren't introducing eggs or larva of pests or fungus?
 
HarryCarey

HarryCarey

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Actually the soil directly under the tree, espescially if you dug down a bit(past the organic horizon), is gonna be quite drained of nutes. That tree has been taking those nutes for X years and trees require a LOT. From what I know it is also the leaching zone for Fe(iron), and salts in some areas so the mineral content may be contradicting to what MJ wants. That said if baked to remove pests then ammended organically it will definitely serve the purpose and will feel good growing in local dirt
 
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growone

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i'm not too sure what the soil underneath the roots would be like, but i am curious about the composted stump part
not really high nutrient wise(i would guess), but maybe a nice base for a soil, and it's certainly free and plentiful if you live near a forest
 
HarryCarey

HarryCarey

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Ya the tree stump should hold lots of organic compounds just needs to decay abit and hopefully doesn't have too much bad fungus in it.
 
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shizz

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just as easy to go get horse manure at a horse farm. and let it sit for a yr. or ask them if they have a compost pile you can raid. most have more then theycould use. or go get mushroom soil. 15 bucks a truck load. at your garden center.
 
goten

goten

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growone said:
i'm not too sure what the soil underneath the roots would be like, but i am curious about the composted stump part
not really high nutrient wise(i would guess), but maybe a nice base for a soil, and it's certainly free and plentiful if you live near a forest
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never thought about that ,

hell and i got nothing but the forest/woods right in my back yard lol

i took this pic out my widow

those woods go on for ever lol
 

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growone

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i see very well decomposed stumps/logs regularly, composted wood product might be the commercial equivalent
it looks good, just seems like a few additional ingredients would make a fine(and inexpensive) soil
 
tet1953

tet1953

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HarryCarey said:
Actually the soil directly under the tree, espescially if you dug down a bit(past the organic horizon), is gonna be quite drained of nutes. That tree has been taking those nutes for X years and trees require a LOT. From what I know it is also the leaching zone for Fe(iron), and salts in some areas so the mineral content may be contradicting to what MJ wants. That said if baked to remove pests then ammended organically it will definitely serve the purpose and will feel good growing in local dirt
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Jeez, speaking of leaching, think about all the crap floating around in the air, landing on leaves, then getting washed off. Where does that concentrate?
 
HarryCarey

HarryCarey

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most minerals concentrate in the B horizon in a soil profile and can contain oxides of iron as well as aluminum and other compounds leached from above, the C and R layers are mainly parent material which includes rock and plant matter from long ago


Figure 3: Typical layers found in a soil profile. (Source: PhysicalGeography.net)
 
goten

goten

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O.P

So are you saying that you can use that soil underneath dead tree stumps and shit for your actual grow ? ( veg to harvest )

or just to start them off in ?

Please excuse my ignorance on this matter my man lol
 
AquafinaOrbit

AquafinaOrbit

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Besides the lost nutrients from what the tree required, it would also have a lack of nitrogen since the organism that decomposes wood required nitrogen in its process and in amounts usually much larger then what the tree itself can provide. Also seems like it might be on the acidic side since its wood. At same time though its probably pretty 'loose' and with a few additives could make for a good base.
 
Tragic420

Tragic420

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some of the best soil, whatever u would call it but i got from old lakebeds, where the lake has gone dry. i used to work in Florida doin equatic plant removal and i always had truckloads of black,mud muck, decay from 100's of years of buildup. your plants will grow more rapidly then anything youv ever seen. the only thing you ever have to do is water your plants....you must wait till its dry or very moist befor you plant anything it tho.
 
goten

goten

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4eVa420 said:
these are my plants after 1 day of a 20/4 cycle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq6iIjmHL7w
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Germinated all crooked ?

Just my opinion here ,

i do not think it germinated crooked

i think since its on the end like that and your light is not directly over that one , ( more like it is on the others )

its just growing more towards the direction of your light

Hell i could be wrong ,

that is just how it looked to me my man
 
4eVa420

4eVa420

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goten said:
Germinated all crooked ?

Just my opinion here ,

i do not think it germinated crooked

i think since its on the end like that and your light is not directly over that one , ( more like it is on the others )

its just growing more towards the direction of your light

Hell i could be wrong ,

that is just how it looked to me my man
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its from the germinated seed being crooked bro i wil post an updated vid and i have uploaded pics of my plants in this soil that are 3 days old ive already started them on low stress traing and you can see in the vid that its since then straightened out and straightened in growing toward the light
 
highonbud

highonbud

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that sounds like good dirt with a 100years of buildup!?! I might just go to some old dried up lakes and get a few buckets full ... maybe even go to a full lake get a few buckets full and be able to fish might just work
 
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