FoxFarm Ocean soil NUTRIENTS

ExoticKangaroo said:

It doesn't hurt to mix it with a bit of soil and sprinkle it around. Basically you don't want it to ever dry all the way out. So either soil or mulch or something.

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I know on the website it recommended when transplanting into the veg state you should cook the soil two weeks beforehand. how about for flowering? Do I have to cook the bloom mix with the soil i will use?

also if you don't want it to dry out, is it recommended to water more often then? thank you so much for all the guidance !

marsormai said:

I know on the website it recommended when transplanting into the veg state you should cook the soil two weeks beforehand. how about for flowering? Do I have to cook the bloom mix with the soil i will use?

also if you don't want it to dry out, is it recommended to water more often then? thank you so much for all the guidance !

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Its not necessary to cook the soil with bloom nutrients. However im not saying it isn't beneficial for things like autoflowers who have a shorter life. Im relatively new to this so I'm going to be trying multiple different methods. As for watering you want to water until you almost have run off. This keeps the nutrients in the soil. As for frequency just depends on if you have a cover crop or mulch laid down

ExoticKangaroo said:

Its not necessary to cook the soil with bloom nutrients. However im not saying it isn't beneficial for things like autoflowers who have a shorter life. Im relatively new to this so I'm going to be trying multiple different methods. As for watering you want to water until you almost have run off. This keeps the nutrients in the soil. As for frequency just depends on if you have a cover crop or mulch laid down

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thank you for clarifying this I wish this specified these details on their website. Last question for now (thank you again), how many spoons of bloom do you recommend per gallon? I've seen anywhere from 2-4 online but I'm curious as to what you found works for you.

marsormai said:

thank you for clarifying this I wish this specified these details on their website. Last question for now (thank you again), how many spoons of bloom do you recommend per gallon? I've seen anywhere from 2-4 online but I'm curious as to what you found works for you.

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I always start on the low side. The 2. But its important to start at the correct time. 2 weeks before the nutrients are needed is when you need to add them. So if you want your plant to get the flower nutrients in four weeks you add it two weeks from now. Thats roughly how long it takes for the nutrients to soak soil through watering and start working.

marsormai said:

thank you for clarifying this I wish this specified these details on their website. Last question for now (thank you again), how many spoons of bloom do you recommend per gallon? I've seen anywhere from 2-4 online but I'm curious as to what you found works for you.

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I think its a relatively new product hence the lack of info on it

How about just a large container of ocean forest? See how long it last without adding anything. You can always add a little fert later if you need to. My opinion is that a large amount of OF will last the duration, or close to it.

polishpollack said:

How about just a large container of ocean forest? See how long it last without adding anything. You can always add a little fert later if you need to. My opinion is that a large amount of OF will last the duration, or close to it.

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You're not wrong. I've even ran a few autos with no nutes in OF. But some plants end up wanting to be fed. And this is an easy alternative to bottled nutes. It's like supercharging your OF and being able to use it again next time and its even better.

ExoticKangaroo said:

You're not wrong. I've even ran a few autos with no nutes in OF. But some plants end up wanting to be fed. And this is an easy alternative to bottled nutes. It's like supercharging your OF and being able to use it again next time and its even better.

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have you tried to reuse the ocean forest soil after adding these nutrients? would you need to add the nutrients again with a fresh growing?

marsormai said:

have you tried to reuse the ocean forest soil after adding these nutrients? would you need to add the nutrients again with a fresh growing?

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I have not but the idea is you recook it each time with more earth dust and it's actually suppose to be better each time.

There will be residual nutrients after one grow. If you re-amend the soil with dr. earth or similar, dr. earth should be a good one to use as is whitney farms, it is possible to get another really good grow out of the soil. dr. earth and whitney farms are good to use as they come with their own bacteria and myco loads. subcool used the supersoil idea which was nothing more than adding all the dry granular amendments to Roots soil, let it sit for a couple months, then use it. notice the time difference. if you add ferts that have bacteria already you probably don't have to wait as long for it to be ready. add a little water. what happens is the bacteria and mycos in the fert break down the granular fert to a molecular level that plants can absorb. this is how nature recycles plant life for new one, putting the nutrients back into the soil for the next generation. another good idea is to use products by BuildaSoil.

marsormai said:

Hey everyone, been seeing so many mixed messages and posts regarding using nutrients and Fox farm ocean soil.

I am starting a new grow this week using this specific soil, and I am hoping someone can point me to their own experience and advice on what nutrients to use?
Most people say wait until the grow is 4-5 weeks in to begin adding nutrients to this soil, so I will do that, however, I don't know which nutrients to use.

Could someone please point me in the right direction and make some recommendations?

Thanks!

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Im using fox farms coco loco which has nutrients and i started feeding at the 1st set of permanent leaves. This picture is 7 days apart. 10 days from seed. I think. I fed house and gardens coco a/b at 50-60% strength, growers recharge, Neptune's harvest 0-0-1, tribus grow bacteria, house and gardens aminos, house and gardens root Excelurator, golden tree, humic acid.

So Ronnie... did someone tell you to feed all that stuff to such a small plant?

it surprised me and yes. Im new to all this fancy stuff. Ive grown outdoors since 1985, but never used such. So i got with a botanist from Clemson and he came up with this. I realize some of the products seem double redundant, containing some of the same ingredients, but he said he adjusted the amounts for this. I gotta admit, the plants seem to be responding very well. I am recording everything and will do a control grow next without this stuff and see if its worth the money and time. In my opinion the plants seem to be leaping in growth. I could be wrong but it sure seems like it. They are a lot bigger today than yesterday. This plant was a seed on the 18th sprouted the 21st or 22nd this is today. I think its great, but it could be par for the course

that does look good but be careful how often you give that stuff. did he give a feeding schedule?

Yes. Every thing is pre measured for that stage of growth, aka week. Some doses are .5ml and half a gram per gallon of water.

1st pic is 2 days ago. And one with my hand is this morning. My opinion may be different than yours but i think this is good growth

Yes, that's great.
if you want to experiment with growth that's twice that fast or more, research how to make a DWC bucket, pretty easy, just black 5 gallon with net pot lid at hydro store. one part fert Dynagro, 1 tsp per gallon of water, aka about 5 teaspoons. use a brown rubber/peat root plug, pour water over seed to get it started. once started pour water/fert mix over root plug but not on plant or you'll burn it. good idea to keep ppm kind of low at first, so maybe 3 tsps in 5 gallons to start. keep pouring water/fert mix of plug and roots until root get into water. drill hold into side of bucket same diameter as plastic tube to pump air into water. might use an air stone. aquarium air pump, tube and air stone all in aquarium section of stores like walmart. keep light away from water in bucket or algae (slime) will develop. You can buy the two ferts if you want, dynagro grow and then the bloom but the grow might be good enough for the duration. if you want fast growth, hydro is the way to go. DWC very easy, just keep an eye on it for algae, ppm metering is a good idea, but not really necessary, just restore fresh water/fert mix with correct tsp when necessary. plant gets bigger, refresh water in bucket more frequently.