Fox Farms product mixtures

mimmen said:

If it's two weeks from seed and you used fox farm soil I would hold off on feeding. If you really think they need the nutes, go onto fox farms website and follow their feeding schedule. I would only give half of what is recomended for the first couple of feedings and then gradually increase.

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exactly. good post

i never add that much perlite however some is always needed. i need a little more water retension usually

Well being that its probably not the problem, doing everything i think im supposed to do, why do i still got red stems, dying leafs and burnt tips on 1 of 5 plants. As you can see the rest of the plants look fine IMO. I know that 216 watts isnt nearly enough for 5 plants which is why we are splitting them today and getting another light. But i cant find any information leading to a different cause

I usually mix 1/2 strength Grow Big, and half strength of Agro Grow, which has essential Micro Nutes...

abudsmoker said:

i never add that much perlite however some is always needed. i need a little more water retension usually

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then you definately don't want to add perlite. Perlite helps drain the soil so it holds less water. If you want more water retention you need to add vermiculite instead.

cadeneli said:

exactly. good post

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ill tell u what i do. i use FFOF and i hold off on the nutes for about 2-3 WEEKS b4 adding additional nutes

elasher said:

it didn't seem to so someone suggested 1 part perlite 2 parts OF and it seems to work good.

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I would almost consider that a hydroponic grow with that much perlite! ;o)

Kerovan said:

I would almost consider that a hydroponic grow with that much perlite! ;o)

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haha pretty much huh? +rep haha

It doesn't have as much perlite as the 1 pot looks like in the picture. I put a couple extra hand fulls in each one guess i didn't mix it well enough but its probably about 75% soil...Are you saying this may be causing the red stems and dead leaves?

elasher said:

It doesn't have as much perlite as the 1 pot looks like in the picture. I put a couple extra hand fulls in each one guess i didn't mix it well enough but its probably about 75% soil...Are you saying this may be causing the red stems and dead leaves?

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no, not saying that. Not sure what the problem is other than too much fertilizer. Some say phosphorous/magnesium deficiencies can cause that. Plus it looks overfertilized also, which is burning the tips. Some strains are more sensitive than others and can't handle the nutes as well.

but as for the perlite, you said 2 parts OF, 1 part perlite. That is 66 2/3% OF 33 1/3% perlite. And since OF already has quite a bit of perlite in it (probably around 10%), that would put you at about 60% soil, 40% perlite. Way too much in my opinion. I use 7 parts OF, 1 part perlite this last time and even that seems too much for my tastes.

well we are probably going to double pot them since they are only in 3 gallons so that will just be OF. As for the food, i found the fox farms feeding schedule, just go by that? And do it every other watering?

Alright so today i got another light, made another room and found 1 male and 4 females out of 5. So i split them up , 2 under each lite, did a half-assed flush, taking the bottom soil under the roots out and then double potting them adding about another gallon of soil. Then fed them with just 2 table spoons Fox Farm Big Bloom since it already got its 3 weeks of grow big. Will probably just use this mixture until flowering. Hopefully that gets them their phosphorous/magnesium. Thats all i red about the red stems is phosphorous deficiencies causing red stems so i hope it works! The dead leafs still worry me though.

don't over feed. I looked at fox farms feeding schedule and that "seems" like too much, imo if you have decent soil. I have never used their nutes though, so I can't say definately.

i love FF and definitely disagree with their recommended feeding schedule for the first few weeks. if you are using ocean forest that has enough nutes for around 2 weeks. I did hear about grow big and big bloom being used too soon in ocean forest messes up the nutes in the ocean forest.

Using fox farms ocean forest and going based on their schedule. I have grow big, tiger bloom and big bloom but not using any of the solubles as i've read and heard would be over bore. But i cut the schedule in half for the big bloom (.01-.3-.7) to 1 tble/gal and cut off the grow big (6-4-4) since i already did it for 3 weeks, which is why i think it got enough nitrogen but needs more phosphorous and potassium.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/soilfeed.pdf

Right now they are in 2 1/2 weeks vega and they are all doing weird things lol. I mean for the main part they look healthy but its the little things that worry me lol. Being that im a rookie i dont know whats really bad and whats not. Trying to learn that yet lol.

As of now these two are showing tons of deformed growth.





And these two are the ones with the dying bottom leafs/redish purplish stems.

ultimatelysoothed said:

i love FF and definitely disagree with their recommended feeding schedule for the first few weeks. if you are using ocean forest that has enough nutes for around 2 weeks. I did hear about grow big and big bloom being used too soon in ocean forest messes up the nutes in the ocean forest.

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Thats what i heard so i waited the 2 weeks before giving it anything, but the schedule says no grow big in seeds/cuttings or even first week of vega, but big bloom the entire time. Gave it grow big right when it started vega and no big bloom up until last monday.