Fox Farm Trio ----ooops!

Fanman2

Fanman2

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Second time legal grow outside! I have usually gorilla grown but last year I legal grew in my backyard. Had what I felt was great success. Used miracle grow or whatever fertilizer I could find. Of course looking to this year I wanted to improve. So I upped my genetics with female seeds and a few clones. I also had a few of my own seeds that came from last years grow. Now with improved genetics off I go to a grow store for some great new fantastic Fert. With all the confusing combos I decide to use the Fox Farm trio. So the grow begins and I seem to have a great year going. I get lucky and for some unknown reason my seed from last year all start maturing early. Weed out the males and I get three nice females starting to go into flower as early as July. I follow directions on the first nute bottle to all plants, great results. Follow direction on second nut bottle "Big Bloom". The flowering plants move to second bottle other still on grow big. There was no chart on any package so the flowering plants are now only receiving Big Bloom. As the calendar turns into Aug I notice my flowering females are turning yellow and dropping leaves. Well that is normal to lose a few leaves and I have huge colas for this early in the grow. I am thinking this is great and will be even better than last year.
Now comes the bad stuff. Obviously they are getting no N. I start checking the forum for what could be wrong and that's when I find the fox farm nutrient schedule. Why was this not in my trio when purchased? The guy at the grow store says use this then this and finally Tiger bloom towards the end of flowering. My flowering females are yellow and dropping leaves way too much. I start changing my feeding regime about Aug 15. Plants start to green up and grow again.
What a bunch of screw ups. The bottles give huge doses of nutes that I felt too much and it's in tablespoons. Their chart gives smaller doses in teaspoons in conjunction with feeding all nutes together. The trio came packaged together. No instructions but what is on the bottle. No indication these are to be used together.
Big bloom said to use 4 tablespoons per gallon chart says only a few teaspoons. Very confusing! I think I am back on track again but Fox Farm nearly ruined my grow. I will finish up this grow with what I have on hand but I am done with Fox Farm. Never again!
Sorry I needed to rant to someone who understands how angry I am at Fox kablooey.

These guys need to put down the pipe for a minute clear their head and package their ideas. They should be called half baked fox kablooey.

Lots of other choices and I am looking!

Thanks
Fanman
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

Well-Known Member
I would avoid the tiger bloom. I used to use it a while ago. But it seemed a little much and even going lightly I ended up with some leaf tip burn. The big bloom will treat them right though. If you absolutely need to up the game a bit try using big bloom, Epsom salt silica and also the ff- open sesame, beasty bloom and cha ching on the schedule that ff suggests. Other than that, I would switch to organics. Way easier to build a soil and just water them with occasional top dressing and if they should show a need there's plenty of water soluble organic fertilizers on the market. Good luck friend!
 
Fanman2

Fanman2

Member
JimmiP said:
I would avoid the tiger bloom. I used to use it a while ago. But it seemed a little much and even going lightly I ended up with some leaf tip burn. The big bloom will treat them right though. If you absolutely need to up the game a bit try using big bloom, Epsom salt silica and also the ff- open sesame, beasty bloom and cha ching on the schedule that ff suggests. Other than that, I would switch to organics. Way easier to build a soil and just water them with occasional top dressing and if they should show a need there's plenty of water soluble organic fertilizers on the market. Good luck friend!
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cory meridew1213

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Fanman2 said:
Second time legal grow outside! I have usually gorilla grown but last year I legal grew in my backyard. Had what I felt was great success. Used miracle grow or whatever fertilizer I could find. Of course looking to this year I wanted to improve. So I upped my genetics with female seeds and a few clones. I also had a few of my own seeds that came from last years grow. Now with improved genetics off I go to a grow store for some great new fantastic Fert. With all the confusing combos I decide to use the Fox Farm trio. So the grow begins and I seem to have a great year going. I get lucky and for some unknown reason my seed from last year all start maturing early. Weed out the males and I get three nice females starting to go into flower as early as July. I follow directions on the first nute bottle to all plants, great results. Follow direction on second nut bottle "Big Bloom". The flowering plants move to second bottle other still on grow big. There was no chart on any package so the flowering plants are now only receiving Big Bloom. As the calendar turns into Aug I notice my flowering females are turning yellow and dropping leaves. Well that is normal to lose a few leaves and I have huge colas for this early in the grow. I am thinking this is great and will be even better than last year.
Now comes the bad stuff. Obviously they are getting no N. I start checking the forum for what could be wrong and that's when I find the fox farm nutrient schedule. Why was this not in my trio when purchased? The guy at the grow store says use this then this and finally Tiger bloom towards the end of flowering. My flowering females are yellow and dropping leaves way too much. I start changing my feeding regime about Aug 15. Plants start to green up and grow again.
What a bunch of screw ups. The bottles give huge doses of nutes that I felt too much and it's in tablespoons. Their chart gives smaller doses in teaspoons in conjunction with feeding all nutes together. The trio came packaged together. No instructions but what is on the bottle. No indication these are to be used together.
Big bloom said to use 4 tablespoons per gallon chart says only a few teaspoons. Very confusing! I think I am back on track again but Fox Farm nearly ruined my grow. I will finish up this grow with what I have on hand but I am done with Fox Farm. Never again!
Sorry I needed to rant to someone who understands how angry I am at Fox kablooey.

These guys need to put down the pipe for a minute clear their head and package their ideas. They should be called half baked fox kablooey.

Lots of other choices and I am looking!

Thanks
Fanman
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Fanman2 said:
Second time legal grow outside! I have usually gorilla grown but last year I legal grew in my backyard. Had what I felt was great success. Used miracle grow or whatever fertilizer I could find. Of course looking to this year I wanted to improve. So I upped my genetics with female seeds and a few clones. I also had a few of my own seeds that came from last years grow. Now with improved genetics off I go to a grow store for some great new fantastic Fert. With all the confusing combos I decide to use the Fox Farm trio. So the grow begins and I seem to have a great year going. I get lucky and for some unknown reason my seed from last year all start maturing early. Weed out the males and I get three nice females starting to go into flower as early as July. I follow directions on the first nute bottle to all plants, great results. Follow direction on second nut bottle "Big Bloom". The flowering plants move to second bottle other still on grow big. There was no chart on any package so the flowering plants are now only receiving Big Bloom. As the calendar turns into Aug I notice my flowering females are turning yellow and dropping leaves. Well that is normal to lose a few leaves and I have huge colas for this early in the grow. I am thinking this is great and will be even better than last year.
Now comes the bad stuff. Obviously they are getting no N. I start checking the forum for what could be wrong and that's when I find the fox farm nutrient schedule. Why was this not in my trio when purchased? The guy at the grow store says use this then this and finally Tiger bloom towards the end of flowering. My flowering females are yellow and dropping leaves way too much. I start changing my feeding regime about Aug 15. Plants start to green up and grow again.
What a bunch of screw ups. The bottles give huge doses of nutes that I felt too much and it's in tablespoons. Their chart gives smaller doses in teaspoons in conjunction with feeding all nutes together. The trio came packaged together. No instructions but what is on the bottle. No indication these are to be used together.
Big bloom said to use 4 tablespoons per gallon chart says only a few teaspoons. Very confusing! I think I am back on track again but Fox Farm nearly ruined my grow. I will finish up this grow with what I have on hand but I am done with Fox Farm. Never again!
Sorry I needed to rant to someone who understands how angry I am at Fox kablooey.

These guys need to put down the pipe for a minute clear their head and package their ideas. They should be called half baked fox kablooey.

Lots of other choices and I am looking!

Thanks
Fanman
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i just made a confused post on this myself... the bottle says use a ton of big bloom 60 ml a gallon and the chart says 15... i found that crazy myself.. glad it wasnt just me.. im told to only use tiger bloom half strength at the most .. but use tiger bloom and and big bloom together...
 
Fanman2

Fanman2

Member
Harvested two of my early females. Biggest colas I have ever grown. At least 4 plants will have small buds and reduced yields because of all the nute burn. Fox Farm can stick their products up there ass! I emailed them no response. I am done with them!

Growers beware! Steer yourself to safer products. These guys just want your $$ and don't give a shit.
Fanman2
 
roaf

roaf

Well-Known Member
I only use 9ML of Tiger Bloom per gallon. The recommended amount is WAY too high. Same with the Grow Big.
 
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cory meridew1213

New Member
roaf said:
I only use 9ML of Tiger Bloom per gallon. The recommended amount is WAY too high. Same with the Grow Big.
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yay ive heard that from many to start way low and only go up to half strength and keep it there.. they gotta know its to strong and should make new directions.. dont they test their products? it is almost like they dont care.. but i know a few that live by this stuff and great results.. they just keep it way lower then the directions say and by trial and error.. web info...
 
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