Fox Farm Trio frequency

hawse

hawse

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I know this has probably been asked a million times... The Fox Farm Trio feeding schedule for soil says use with every other watering. Well I've got plants that need water every day. I usually just go with once a week for nutes, but would twice a week be better? Does anyone REALLY use nutes every other watering?

FWIW I'm in three gallon smart pots, around 1000 watts of LED's, in a closet with plenty of airflow and otherwise good results. I just want more! Strains vary, but all seem to be sensitive to nutes, so i'm worried about over doing it. I did see early yellowing around week six so I wondered if I should be doing a bit more. Thanks!
 
BrewersToker

BrewersToker

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Fox Farm Tiger Bloom is the bomb. But you have to be careful with it. What I do is I mix 2 tbs of TB for ever gallon. I add 2 tbs of Big Bloom to that and mix well. I don't use Grow Big, so I have no experience with that.
I am outdoors, so I would apply one night, next night water, next night feed, next night water. The frequency is up to you, but the every other night schedule is the max amount I would feed. So, basically 2x a week for feeding, in between waters.

At peak flower, I would do a gallon for each of my two girls every other day.

Here is the Fox Farm schedule, very easy to follow9541def28f293017262e112ce6f795212363a6b9_1_635x500.jpg :
 
hawse

hawse

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Thanks! Yeah at peak flower recently, I was at around the same, but doing 1/2 gallon a day per plant daily... I think I'm gonna start experimenting with at least doing nutes twice a week (I'm in week four now on my new batch) and maybe be better about flushing at least once during the grow. I also don't ever go heavy on the Grow Big either. 1 tsp per gallon at the most... IDK, I'm "self-taught", and I feel like I still could learn more about watering amount and frequency in general.

One interesting thing I've noticed is that if you don't have a proper amount of light, then all bets are off... Now that I feel like I have the right amount of light, they need a lot more water... Same thing goes for seeing deficiencies I think. I would sometimes get wonky leaves, and it might look like a million things, but really it was just not grown properly at all because of lower light levels... If that makes sense lol I'm medicated...
 
Lordhooha

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Does the insane ppm on the suggested feeding chart not throw a red flag to anyone else? I mean damn! An people wonder why these nutrient companies push the flushing myth.
 
jtrizzy

jtrizzy

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Can someone pleaseeee tell me the point of big bloom? it is 0-0.5-0.7?? I have it as well and don't see a purpose for it when adding tiger bloom which is 2-8-4. I have searched high and low and I cannot understand. Why add the additional .5 and .7 p & k? Is there something else in big bloom that I am missing here? All I know is it is organic vs synthetic, other than that I have no idea why I would use this with tiger bloom and cause additional ppm's for no reason. If there is something magical in it please tell me.
 
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Budzbuddha

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Big bloom works with soil microbes BETTER than being hammered over the head with Grow Big ( which will burn your shit ) compared to big bloom.

With soil grows ( containers) and with a good potting mix , i use big bloom ONLY during veg as it keeps soil happy and not overly salted up by grow big THEN say after week 5 i add an 1/4 of grow big for transitional week during flower flip 12/12 for its stretch and branching , then TIGER bloom only til last two weeks then cut it down by 1/2 strength to finish.

The feed schedule is way too much for most plants.
The sad reality of synthetics.
 
jtrizzy

jtrizzy

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Budzbuddha said:
Big bloom works with soil microbes BETTER than being hammered over the head with Grow Big ( which will burn your shit ) compared to big bloom.

With soil grows ( containers) and with a good potting mix , i use big bloom ONLY during veg as it keeps soil happy and not overly salted up by grow big THEN say after week 5 i add an 1/4 of grow big for transitional week during flower flip 12/12 for its stretch and branching , then TIGER bloom only til last two weeks then cut it down by 1/2 strength to finish.

The feed schedule is way too much for most plants.
The sad reality of synthetics.
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never used grow big, I have it but never used it. FFOF has plenty to last until flowering with my autos. I have used tiger bloom at 1/4 strength. But with over watering issues I do not get to water too much the last 3 weeks and looks like I wont be watering much this go around either do to the over watering issues.
 
hawse

hawse

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Everything I've heard or read about it says this chart is too much, so I've always used way way less and had some fine results... I'm just curious to start experimenting again with a little more until I start to see issues...
 
hotrodharley

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jtrizzy said:
Can someone pleaseeee tell me the point of big bloom? it is 0-0.5-0.7?? I have it as well and don't see a purpose for it when adding tiger bloom which is 2-8-4. I have searched high and low and I cannot understand. Why add the additional .5 and .7 p & k? Is there something else in big bloom that I am missing here? All I know is it is organic vs synthetic, other than that I have no idea why I would use this with tiger bloom and cause additional ppm's for no reason. If there is something magical in it please tell me.
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All those fancy bottles don't do shit except separate you from your money.
 
BrewersToker

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As with anything you add to your environment, moderation is best. I have never used the heavy feeding ratio on the bottle with the Tiger Bloom. I have always kept it on the light side with that. The Big Bloom is nice, and I like how it keeps that medium healthy while the Tiger Bloom works.

My plants have responded nicely to the moderate levels I have fed them with.
 
Kushash

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I guess a new grower has to start somewhere and many will turn to the chart.

More than 90% of new growers who follow a chart when growing in ffof are going to over fertilize and it will be difficult to help them when they post pics asking for help on riu.

If they would go water only until the plant showed a sign of no longer being happy in ffof then posted a pic on riu asking for help, it would be very easy to help them compared to the newbie who said they followed the chart IMO.
 
jtrizzy

jtrizzy

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Budzbuddha said:
Big bloom works with soil microbes BETTER than being hammered over the head with Grow Big ( which will burn your shit ) compared to big bloom.

With soil grows ( containers) and with a good potting mix , i use big bloom ONLY during veg as it keeps soil happy and not overly salted up by grow big THEN say after week 5 i add an 1/4 of grow big for transitional week during flower flip 12/12 for its stretch and branching , then TIGER bloom only til last two weeks then cut it down by 1/2 strength to finish.

The feed schedule is way too much for most plants.
The sad reality of synthetics.
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After you first week of flower with 1/4 grow big, do personally you go full dose of tiger bloom until the last two weeks?
 
Lordhooha

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hawse said:
Yeah, I've started mixing mine with Happy Frog to tone it down...
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Before building my own soil. I would always mix pro mix bx with roots organic original with some added perlite just to give it a little more drainage. It generally feeds well for the first month then I would start light feedings( about 300ppm ) and go from there.but I rarely ever feed past 1000 ppm regardless of medium I’m running.
 
Budzbuddha

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jtrizzy said:
After you first week of flower with 1/4 grow big, do personally you go full dose of tiger bloom until the last two weeks?
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No .... i allow the minor grow big feed to supplement the stretch and budset. It is about the time she will now stop and go into bloom. I snip any little underdeveloped shit at bottom , do a water next time as i already FED her. Then the following week begin a 1/4 or 1/2 strength to begin. FF does grow well but in moderation. Most growers screw the pooch and start the DUMPING of this and that just “ because its flowering “. By the time it starts to flower whatever nitro has been stored WITHIN plant will be used from the leaves. Some nitro will still be in the soil but will not be totally used that much any more. So the PK dance begins ...... some strains are heavy feeders ( which will show as early fading ) so a slight bump sometimes is needed but after say week 2 is when i go bloom only feeds.

Its no longer the leaves ( necessarily ) to watch but the flowers setting up and bulking.

Leaves will turn , fade and drop someimrs DAILY , its normal as it concentrates on flowers. I usually begin a higher feed around week 5-8 to bump flowering. Too much nitro during flower gives you smaller buds ... sad fact . Moderation is hard but the plant WILL ALWAYS SHOW YOU if its happy or theres a problem.
 
jtrizzy

jtrizzy

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Budzbuddha said:
No .... i allow the minor grow big feed to supplement the stretch and budset. It is about the time she will now stop and go into bloom. I snip any little underdeveloped shit at bottom , do a water next time as i already FED her. Then the following week begin a 1/4 or 1/2 strength to begin. FF does grow well but in moderation. Most growers screw the pooch and start the DUMPING of this and that just “ because its flowering “. By the time it starts to flower whatever nitro has been stored WITHIN plant will be used from the leaves. Some nitro will still be in the soil but will not be totally used that much any more. So the PK dance begins ...... some strains are heavy feeders ( which will show as early fading ) so a slight bump sometimes is needed but after say week 2 is when i go bloom only feeds.

Its no longer the leaves ( necessarily ) to watch but the flowers setting up and bulking.

Leaves will turn , fade and drop someimrs DAILY , its normal as it concentrates on flowers. I usually begin a higher feed around week 5-8 to bump flowering. Too much nitro during flower gives you smaller buds ... sad fact . Moderation is hard but the plant WILL ALWAYS SHOW YOU if its happy or theres a problem.
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So the 2 N in Tiger bloom is sufficient for blooming stage.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Yep ... all bloom nutes have some nitro , excepting PK “ boosters “ which like to Push the flowers ... Beastie Bloom for example :

NPK ( 0 - 50 - 30 )

Hydroplex ( botanicare ) - i like this stuff after week 2-3 done during “ PLAIN “ watering between normal feed.

P 10.0%, K 6.0%, Mg 0.5%

Everyone has there SPECIAL add ... Mammoth P , Kool bloom , AN bottles , etc.

I like hydroplex simple 2 - 5 ml per gallon ...
anout a capful ... thats it.

If you are Fox Farm guy - there is Open Sesame / Beastie Bloom / Cha Ching ... i have run these instead if tiger bloom .... works well.

But a HIDDEN GEM of Fox Farms ......
BOOMERANG .... this is some interesting shit.
A capful per gallon ..... no nutes for a couple days ..... plants get crazy responses and absolutely show perk up and response in 24 hours.

This is the ONLY FF product i use with my hemp buckets. I use GH NUTES and MEGACROP but this “ bottle “ stuff really makes plant dance.
Another is Thrive Alive Red ... kelpy based / B vitamin charged. Thrive Alive GREEN will bring life ( green up ) plants - if plants seem sick and unhappy.
 
hawse

hawse

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Thanks, that seems like sound advice to me. I always try and error on the side of only adding things when they seem like they are needed. I'm also still just amazed how much of a difference having a better lighting set up made for me. I could pump the girls full of salt all day long, but if the light is not there what good is it doing? I also used to use a little molasses, but sort of got out of the habit...
 
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