Fox Farm Nutrients and Soil

I have about 5 years of experience with FFOF soil and the nute trio.
Ocean Forest is hot! You dont even really need to add nutes up till day 30
If your using a 5 gallon nursery pot full of OF.
Don't follow their nute schedule - it's waay too much. About 3-4x too much for most strains.
You will have burnt leaf tips, eagle clawing, a.k.a. nitrogen toxicity in later veg into flower.
I cut 2 bags OF with 1 bag Light Warrior. If I veg 40 days, I might give
2 feedings at 1/4 then 1/3 of their recommended dose for the last 2 wks. veg.
After that you can go with higher doses of their flowering plan but start low (1/4 dose) and go up.

Also, this has alot to do with how you water.
If you really flush out (water enough to have alot of run-off),
between feedings...
You could have higher doses.

Always Ph your nute solution with the up & down.
My tap water is 7.3. When I add veg nutes it usually lowers it to a perfect 6.3-6.5.
Flowering nutes can lower it even more so you may need to add Ph UP.
You don't really have to worry about Ph'ing plain watering from the tap.
But depending, tap water tends to have a high PPM which can build up so I
supplement with store bought distilled water about half the time.

az2000 said:

Myself and friends noticed a distinct taste difference when I switched from all-synthetic GH Flora 3-part to Grow More Sea Grow (a blend of organic and synthetic). Maybe I was overfeeding GH. But, the taste difference is remarkable (smoother, richer).

I'd like to do more of an organic grow like you describe (water only, occasional tea). Because of the taste difference I've already gotten, I can't get motivated. I try to use organic supplements whenever I need to supplement. (I.e., AK Fish to raise N during veg, bat guano to raise P in flower).

I'm doing a cheap experiment with MiracleGro Tomato. I'm curious to see if I notice the taste go back to the sharp, bright (harsh, IMO) sensation. I haven't had anything to compare to for awhile.

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We had already planned to to some "taste tests" at the Seattle Hempfest someday. I would be curious.To see how it would go.

radrolley said:

I prefer making an organic super soil mix myself. It makes everything so much easier especially if you keep plants in all different stages of growth. If mixed right you can use straight water with no added nutrients. Use RO and you don't even need to ph as long as the soil ph is good. RO water has a very unstable potential hydrogen because the TDS is nearly 0. There is nothing to buffer it so it will change very rapdily as it mixes in your soil. With using the proper amount of super soil, you can just use water start to finish and still get big yields. I actually used Fertilome soil once with only using large amounts of big bloom as the only fertilizer. It worked but yields were much smaller. No chemical taste at all.

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I use my own mixes outdoors, But I have had some problems with my homemade soils indoors. FF takes the work out of it for me. I'm old and tiredNone of my (expensive) toys have worked for years

Oregon Gardener said:

I use my own mixes outdoors, But I have had some problems with my homemade soils indoors. FF takes the work out of it for me. I'm old and tiredNone of my (expensive) toys have worked for years

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i would say stick with what works best for you. to each his own. it's just for me i put a plant or 2 in flower every week so not many plants would be on the same feed schedule. it got to be too much work for me having to custom mix nutrients for every other plant instead of just 1 batch of nutrients. with a perpetual harvest i am never over my legal limit, constant fresh smoke, and most of the time the plants just get water. i do feed(and ph) a little at the end with tiger bloom and bloombastic. never the last 2 weeks though. they usually have a nice yellow green fade at the end. if i drop my temps they get more colorful. i've used tap water for years and it is perfectly fine to use in almost all cases but it's best to check the ph. plain ro water has nothing in it so there is nothing to really ph unless you are trying to correct a ph problem in the soil.

I’m using Happy Frog this go and I’m liking it much better than OF. Much less nutes. My oldest is at 4 weeks and I’m feeding
2 ml cal mag
2 ml Rhino skin
1/4 tsp Wholly Mackerel
1/4 Kelp Me Kelp You
1 Tbsp Big Bloom
1/2 tsp Grow Big

On water days it’s only the top 4 things with the cal mag and rhino at 1 ml each.

It’s working great for me with no burn and plants looking great.

why even comment if you have nothing knowledgable to add to this mans question does anyone actually have any knowledge about fox farm nutrients at all ..??? I have lots of data id love to trade with someone to help come to some conclusions i hope

Canna_Man said:

Since FF is organic ppm and ph isnt as important as long as you have good benes microbes and fungi in your soil they should take care of all that work for you. Just use RO, spring water thats chlorine free and your good to grow.

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Wrong. Fox Farm fertilizers ARE NOT organic by any stretch and will kill any beneficials in your soil as soon as applied. You want organic? Mix your soil with Down to Earth brand products and drop some worms on top, mulch with straw & you'll be feeding the soil which in turn will feed those beneficials & thus feed your plants. Fox Farms is poison to soil.

So I'm just using the soil OF and HF. just bought a bag of the ko ko bop..
I'm not into bottles though I've used them and try my best to keep them organic..
I've had decent turn outs, but this time I'm only adding the fruit and flower 4-9-3 dry.
Starting with solo cups for 2 weeks & then OF for 4 weeks. then transplant into the fruit/flower fertilizer with bloom & kelp me teas. I don't plan to ph, nor water til run off.. I'll be adding 1 cup of fruit and flower dry amendment to the base soil mix, or whatever is recommended. this should keep it simple stoners..KISS

SameAsUsual said:

Wrong. Fox Farm fertilizers ARE NOT organic by any stretch and will kill any beneficials in your soil as soon as applied. You want organic? Mix your soil with Down to Earth brand products and drop some worms on top, mulch with straw & you'll be feeding the soil which in turn will feed those beneficials & thus feed your plants. Fox Farms is poison to soil.

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Big bloom does not kill any bacteria or fungi in the roots. It is organic.