Founding Fathers Genetics - tigard farms

Cannaclysmic Events said:

I've been waiting a month. Dude is sitting on my entire budget for this grow. I'm sitting on my thumbs here since the 24th of last month with no more communication after payment received. I've texted him practically begging to get this order out. Tried CSI twice with no reply. Everyday I'm loosing time, money, and breeding windows I set up. I just want to fu$%^; scream!! At this point that damn order should be free with freebies!

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You should not rely on a seed order for your productivity schedule. That is your mistake.

NorthNorthNugs said:

He is slow to respond but he will eventually. He's a very nice guy. He sat on my order for awhile, then it took a week to get the payment sent out then it took another 3 weeks to get it shipped. He hooked me up with a bunch of freebies for my troubles though and made it right. I know it's frustrating but just be patient and you'll be rewarded.

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Thanks. I'm holding out due to his reputation and and association to CSI. Anyone else would of been charged back by now. My fear is he forgot about it, we hashed it out over text. He was helping me out with some half packs that were sold out on the site.
I'm stuck on a breeding concept I think promises some heat, so it makes the wait worse lo
(Mandelbrot Oil Spill x Obama and Mandelbrot Oil Spill x Secret Service)

originalphenohunters said:

You should not rely on a seed order for your productivity schedule. That is your mistake.

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Negative. Policy clearly states all orders are processed and shipped within 3-6 days of receiving payment. It's been over a month. It is well within reasonable expectations to make preparations for a current project, even allowing for a week or so cushion to account for shipping hiccups. You are outright talking nonsense to suggest someone can't plan their work around anticipated component delivery. This failure is not my fault by any means or measure.

Cannaclysmic Events said:

Negative. Policy clearly states all orders are processed and shipped within 3-6 days of receiving payment. It's been over a month. It is well within reasonable expectations to make preparations for a current project, even allowing for a week or so cushion to account for shipping hiccups. You are outright talking nonsense to suggest someone can't plan their work around anticipated component delivery. This failure is not my fault by any means or measure.

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Dude shit happens all the time, it’s at least half your fault. What if he sent it and it got lost in the mail or any other sort of act of god? Too many contingencies to be a bullet proof plan, and as such, it’s you’re fault for building your productivity schedule around it. Should have made plans for seeds you already had in hand. Not defending redbeard here, its just bad planning on your part.

You’ll get your order eventually with a lot of freebies. Just don’t hold your breath, shipping seeds is obviously not a priority for him

Ghosting you over a month after you paid is ridiculous and I wouldn't even want to do business with him after that

higher self said:

Ok I got my order now & deleted my last post lol. I guess he just had some bad luck with his orders going out.......

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Wow more than a year later he is still ass with the shipping. I want to order more but don't like when people hold on to my money like that. Similar genetics so might as well order from CSI for better customer service & freebies. Still willing to give FF another chance tho, maybe lol

I wish Caleb would stop having that dude hold all the good T1000 packs and stock them himself.

Yeah, I keep coming here to read all the happy stories when, even months later, people get their shit, cuz I don't have a good feeling about mine. I gave him like 3 weeks b4 I started rattling his cage, nothing for a couple more weeks, then another lost phone, can't log into his email, did I get my seeds? No, man, you got my Venmo and ghosted. Now it's been 10 days since he finally resurfaced and promised to make things good. I almost wanted to make an order to see how quick he responds when he thinks someone's got $ for him, instead of just another pissed off custy, Cuz he was on that shit with the quickness when I ordered. I feel like I've been down this road before, "I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a delicious hamburger today"

Had a buddy that owed me large, and could never seem to make things right, gave me his newly acquired Harley with Title, when I met his ex cop dad at the funeral, he knew his son had the bike, but didn't know he had taken the title and lost it, to me. He thought it was still at home, in his safe. I didn't even want the thing, dude was supposed to buy it back

I mean, the order I got from Caleb more than covered what I got here and I don't want to trash the guys name, just yet, but folks should know shit's pretty fishy round here.

So, why is the Air Force One $500 on CSI Humboldt anyway? I mean, that's so far out of line with anything he's got, yet the Secret Service was $70?

bongrip101 said:

I wish Caleb would stop having that dude hold all the good T1000 packs and stock them himself.

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Seriously I was just on the founding fathers site and want to grab some T-1000 packs as well as some zkittlez crosses packs, founding fathers has got some awesome strains in stock and I want and am tempted to grab but not after hearing about the mailing and ghosting issues<which seem to have been going on a while. I ordered a pack of secret service from him a few years ago and everything went smooth but times have changed I guess.

Also call me JJ- The air force one has the T-1000 reversed to the Obama, so AF-1 is- Obama x T-1000. The secret service is a different strain with the obama used for the reversal so its T-1000 x Obama. They different strains and are opposite reversals. The T-1000 being reversed is more sought after than obama I guess but the price point is a bit out of whack.

Gsquared541 said:

Dude shit happens all the time, it’s at least half your fault. What if he sent it and it got lost in the mail or any other sort of act of god? Too many contingencies to be a bullet proof plan, and as such, it’s you’re fault for building your productivity schedule around it. Should have made plans for seeds you already had in hand. Not defending redbeard here, its just bad planning on your part.

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You're making alot of assumptions here bud, wrong about all of them. I understand well and good there are times in life when you cover all your bases and shit still happens. 100% of the time there will be cause for that effect, sometimes it will be your bad planning, other times it will be the random lawn dart you catch in the leg. Now I didnt throw that damn dart did I? But sure, tell me how I'm at fault here when I factored in a week for processing (3-6 days per seller)and 10 days for shipping that typically takes 3. I'm all ears.
See dude I can't, nor should you or anyone else that puts there money out there on the word of a vendor, accept any responsibility when the order is 6 weeks out, there's been no reply to multiple requests of an update, and you don't even have a tracking number.
Now I'm not trying to bash this dude, but you're kinda making me everytime I have to educate you in assertiveness.

Cannaclysmic Events said:

You're making alot of assumptions here bud, wrong about all of them. I understand well and good there are times in life when you cover all your bases and shit still happens. 100% of the time there will be cause for that effect, sometimes it will be your bad planning, other times it will be the random lawn dart you catch in the leg. Now I didnt throw that damn dart did I? But sure, tell me how I'm at fault here when I factored in a week for processing (3-6 days per seller)and 10 days for shipping that typically takes 3. I'm all ears.
See dude I can't, nor should you or anyone else that puts there money out there on the word of a vendor, accept any responsibility when the order is 6 weeks out, there's been no reply to multiple requests of an update, and you don't even have a tracking number.
Now I'm not trying to bash this dude, but you're kinda making me everytime I have to educate you in assertiveness.

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Of course it’s his fault the order is late. It’s your fault for making your plans based around the order arriving on time. You could have simply read the thread to know your seeds arriving on time was a dubious prospect.

every time I click on this thread thats all I see is posts about this guys shitty customer service and the same people running to his defense lol

yall are even blaming the customer now smh

theres no incentive for him to improve his customer service if yall just gonna defend him and keep spending money with him

I think we can all agree It's definitely cannas fault for thinking RB would actually send what he paid for in a timely manner /s . Anyone else who orders should do so with the understanding that dude might not send out what you paid for.

Sounds like dealing with GLO lol

Dividedsky said:

Seriously I was just on the founding fathers site and want to grab some T-1000 packs as well as some zkittlez crosses packs, founding fathers has got some awesome strains in stock and I want and am tempted to grab but not after hearing about the mailing and ghosting issues<which seem to have been going on a while. I ordered a pack of secret service from him a few years ago and everything went smooth but times have changed I guess.

Also call me JJ- The air force one has the T-1000 reversed to the Obama, so AF-1 is- Obama x T-1000. The secret service is a different strain with the obama used for the reversal so its T-1000 x Obama. They different strains and are opposite reversals. The T-1000 being reversed is more sought after than obama I guess but the price point is a bit out of whack.

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Founding Fathers has the Air Force One listed for $200, it's like some kind of inside joke that Caleb has it at $500. Oh yeah, FF has updated the website, but not sent my or Cannaclysmic orders out. I've gotten one response since initial contact and that was 10 days ago. I don't know how my email sent yesterday will be received, but it is of my opinion that breeding prowess aside, dude should not be operating a business of this nature. Stay in your lane and know your weaknesses. Focus on the seeds and find someone, I dunno, a seed seller, who knows their way to the post office and can keep the phone and lights on to handle the face forward shit. Hell I got a little flag on my mailbox, all I have to do is put postage on shit and lift the flag and it's gone. There's way more $ in happy customers and repeat business than there is in fucking a few unsuspecting customers once, especially with forums like this. This thread shows up directly under his website in my search, must be why he's no longer Tigard Farms. You want to take me for $150? Don't be a fool, I'll make sure it costs you a hell of a lot more in lost business. Put the seeds in the pack and put the pack in the mail. If anybody here knows this guy personally, you should reach out, something is not right. Mailing a letter doesn't take a fucking month. I could have shipped a package quicker than I typed this.

MannyPacs said:

I think we can all agree It's definitely cannas fault for thinking RB would actually send what he paid for in a timely manner /s . Anyone else who orders should do so with the understanding that dude might not send out what you paid for.

Sounds like dealing with GLO lol

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dude seriously was just thinking this same thing...sounds exactly like glo. I'm not going to blatantly accuse someone of something when I dont know for sure but it seems a few of these dudes cant handle getting payment up front, or cash of front. Maybe old demons start knocking on the door , maybe old monkeys return on their back when you have easy access to quick cash/mailbox money catch my drift.

Call_me_JJ said:

Founding Fathers has the Air Force One listed for $200, it's like some kind of inside joke that Caleb has it at $500. Oh yeah, FF has updated the website, but not sent my or Cannaclysmic orders out. I've gotten one response since initial contact and that was 10 days ago. I don't know how my email sent yesterday will be received, but it is of my opinion that breeding prowess aside, dude should not be operating a business of this nature. Stay in your lane and know your weaknesses. Focus on the seeds and find someone, I dunno, a seed seller, who knows their way to the post office and can keep the phone and lights on to handle the face forward shit. Hell I got a little flag on my mailbox, all I have to do is put postage on shit and lift the flag and it's gone. There's way more $ in happy customers and repeat business than there is in fucking a few unsuspecting customers once, especially with forums like this. This thread shows up directly under his website in my search, must be why he's no longer Tigard Farms. You want to take me for $150? Don't be a fool, I'll make sure it costs you a hell of a lot more in lost business. Put the seeds in the pack and put the pack in the mail. If anybody here knows this guy personally, you should reach out, something is not right. Mailing a letter doesn't take a fucking month. I could have shipped a package quicker than I typed this.

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Thats sucks you're dealing with it hopefully your beans come thru.

I didnt even know FF dropped the price of the AF-1, he used to have it listed at $500 as well-but this was a while back

Dividedsky said:

dude seriously was just thinking this same thing...sounds exactly like glo. I'm not going to blatantly accuse someone of something when I dont know for sure but it seems a few of these dudes cant handle getting payment up front, or cash of front. Maybe old demons start knocking on the door , maybe old monkeys return on their back when you have easy access to quick cash/mailbox money catch my drift.

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Oh, I know that story. Outlaws gonna outlaw. He got back to me like greased lightning when I was waving cash, now crickets and same old tired excuses, lost my phone, bro. Was pretty damn early West Coast time when he messaged me. I'm pretty sure he's got seeds, hope it's not postage that's hanging him up. Today I got the 3rd order I've made since I ordered from him. Thinking about plying the sympathy angle with Caleb, the TK is back, again and Living Dead Girl is just a fucking great name. I had a tracking # like couple hours after he got my payment.

Dividedsky said:

Thats sucks you're dealing with it hopefully your beans come thru.

I didnt even know FF dropped the price of the AF-1, he used to have it listed at $500 as well-but this was a while back

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That price drop was since I ordered. That's the kicker, someone updated the site, all kinds of new gear listed. I didn't get the impression that webmaster was his department, needs someone in the mailroom.

I got ahold of him finally. Maybe some bad communication service at play, who knows, he's on it now to the best of my knowledge. Should be a bumper crop of freebies, won't say no to that