hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I like that simple and alot less exspense in electic
For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users
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med4u
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yo db hows it growin'? have you tried the bleach formula mentioned in this thread? might wanna give it a shot,i use it and it keeps everything sparkely clean with no bugs or pathogens chk to make sure but i believe it was 100ml bleach to 1gal h2o,then use it at 5ml/gal for the first hit then 2.5/gal daily till problem gone,i hit it every week for maintenance
also if your runnin co2 crank her up to 10 to 15k ppm it will kill all bugs,just keep it monitored at those sustained levels it could take you out too
also if you got roots growin thru your bucket holes,try the net pots with rock,the roots hang free and when you flood it keeps the roots from growin thru the holes i grow trees in em good luck bro
hornedfrog2000
Well-Known Member
I think you typed that wrong. 100ml?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Im thinking that to even 10ml per gal is to high
med4u
Well-Known Member
hiya helly,the pioneer of all this stuff,hows it goin'? you say your doin a build?i should think you'd need a fricken wharehouse bro lol cant wait to chk it out good luck wit itI like that simple and alot less exspense in electic
to clarify,100ml to 1 gal of h2o,now you have 1 gal of pre diluted mix,use 5ml/gal of that pre diluted mix for the initial hit,then 2.5 dailey sound better?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Yes you are very right here one thing thats always over looked and i even forgot to say is to dilute it!
Spot on med4u
hornedfrog2000
Well-Known Member
Why pre dilute it? It would start to dissipate once you mixed it in an open container right?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
No its needed to dilute to break up the bleach so theres no hot spots
med4u
Well-Known Member
gallon milk jug full of h2o add your bleach cap it and it last quit a while,but yes when exposed it dissapates quit rapidly about the same rate as h2o2 which i believe is 24 to 36 hours for total molecular seperation and i think chlorine only take 15 to 30 min to dissapate from tap water,i'll look that one up again to be sure ,also use chlorox unsented bleach
good god, dont let research kitty read this shed have all our eyes clawed out by now lol
good god, dont let research kitty read this shed have all our eyes clawed out by now lol
BikerScum
Member
So I started flush last night, only a few more days till harvest! I can not believe how frickin big my Bluberry plant got. It was a clone on 9/15 and is now over 4-5' wide and just as tall with some of the nicest BIGGEST purple stems, leaves and buds I have seen! I have cropped this exact strain several times in soil, but this is truly exceptional! It is going to be an awesome yield. The bluedream and orange kush are as frosty as I have ever seen as well. How did I waste so much time in soil before finding hydro and specifically the ebb and gro!! Freakin awesome!!!
Rickybobby0007
Member
Whats up CAP users!!?? I'm looking to get a new system and I need some advice. I want to go with CAP because I want to expand to 36 sites (Titan is maxed at 24). I'm a bit concerned the 2.5gal buckets are a bit small but I think I'll be ok.
My biggest worry is quality... everyone talks about the CAP system like it is complete crap! Can someone give me feedback that has bought a NEW CAP system in the last few months.
My biggest worry is quality... everyone talks about the CAP system like it is complete crap! Can someone give me feedback that has bought a NEW CAP system in the last few months.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Hey ricky heres a link that might put your mind at ease on the buckets being to small
https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/451539-hellraizers-10x10-x2-tents-running.html
smokingrubber
Well-Known Member
The secret to running a lot of buckets is to use a little extra hose. I really recommend taking your buckets down to the machine shop and upgrading your hose line to 3/4" (make holes in bucket and controller 1" diameter for grommet). Short of that ... imagine the roots getting down into the first 12" of your hose, so make sure everything is wired so that a root ball won't impede any buckets down the line.
Also, leave one of the far buckets empty so that you can see and catch any hickups with the fill/drain cycle.
If you set up the CAP system correctly, it's almost fool-proof. The float valves can go out, so that's why you have to keep an eye on it. My system has been pretty flawless mechanically. I've upgraded to 3 gallon pots with 3/4" line, and I really like the results in the garden. I have a friend with two CAP systems. He's gone through 2 controllers already, but he's gotten good support from CAP when he called. Replacements didn't cost him anything, and it's still rocking.
I personally wouldn't do 36 though. You're going to have to refill your reservior every day. I'd do 12 x 3 Monster Buckets. It's only money.
Also, leave one of the far buckets empty so that you can see and catch any hickups with the fill/drain cycle.
If you set up the CAP system correctly, it's almost fool-proof. The float valves can go out, so that's why you have to keep an eye on it. My system has been pretty flawless mechanically. I've upgraded to 3 gallon pots with 3/4" line, and I really like the results in the garden. I have a friend with two CAP systems. He's gone through 2 controllers already, but he's gotten good support from CAP when he called. Replacements didn't cost him anything, and it's still rocking.
I personally wouldn't do 36 though. You're going to have to refill your reservior every day. I'd do 12 x 3 Monster Buckets. It's only money.
First time Ebb&gro user nearing the end of harvest. I've been running 1300-1500ppm GH lucas formula for 9 weeks flowering and want to cut them down before christmas.
Is flushing necessary in Ebb & gro like it is in soil? I've been good about flushing the pots from the top to remove excess buildup but do I really need to take another 3-4 days to flush with low (300-400ppm) 1/8th strength nutrient water?
Has anybody found that flushing affects the taste in ebb&gro hydro??
thanks
Is flushing necessary in Ebb & gro like it is in soil? I've been good about flushing the pots from the top to remove excess buildup but do I really need to take another 3-4 days to flush with low (300-400ppm) 1/8th strength nutrient water?
Has anybody found that flushing affects the taste in ebb&gro hydro??
thanks
smokingrubber
Well-Known Member
With hydro, you only need 3 or 4 days of flushing (not 2 weeks like dirt). I use FloraKleen for flushing. No nutes, just clean water and FloraKleen (GH) for 3 days, then 1 day of NO WATER. Then cut the lights off and start chopping when the lights should be comming on.
Also, I like to cut the light back to 10 hours during the last 2 weeks. That will really tell the girls "shits about to go down."
Yes, I've noticed a difference when is bud not flushed. Not much difference, and maybe it's all in my head, but it's just not as sweet. I know, because I usually chop a few of the lower branches with about a week to go. I'm usually out of bud by then, and I know I'll need something for the trim party that next week. It's not cured much by trim day, but it's always nice to sample what you're trimming. Don't chop too much too early. I take a 1/2 zip worth off the low branches, and that'll be enough.
Warlock1369
Well-Known Member
I run the Titan setup. But same style. I flush everytime but what I have found is it's not realy needed if you arnt useing a bloom booster. If you are I would say flush for a min. of 4-7 days. If your are just doing nutes then you might not need to. Also is this for personal use or others? If it's for you try one way now and another next grow then deside. But if it's for others I would recommend flushing no matter what. Yes I do agree with the donor flush people on the fact that you are starving the plants at that time but that's the point. The plant will use up all stored surgars and water holding some of the nutes in it's broke down form. And replaced with water. It's all gonna be up to you.
newwb
Active Member
I have failed pretty badly at my attempt to grow in soil, and bought a CAP ebb and grow about 6 weeks or so ago, got a great deal on it, from all the diff internet sites that had much higher prices I went with the horticulture site, they were offering the 12 pot setup for 390 ish and I also got a 6 pot expansion set(because I can grow 15, so WHY only grow 12!!)for both I paid about 450, and shipping wasn't that bad considering it comes mostly packed inside the 65 gal res.
I knew there HAD to be a thread for E&G users, so glad I finally found it mentioned on another thread and looked it up under a users profile who mentioned it (mucho thanks!)
OK..I have a room that is 8x6, I panda filmed off an area of about 6x5, which is where it will all ultimately be setup...with the smaller part of the room entrance basically has my table for all my junk, nutes, meters, etc..outside this room is my utility room with my washer/dryer and a huge shelf/wall unit..in the corner outside the grow room is where I am going to keep my Res. It's a cold area, not well insulated, and can't afford a chiller at this time, so I figure this will work out nicely, except the tubing is so squirley from being wound up in tight rolls, they won't lay on the ground, just kind of corkskrew there way into the room.
The door is off the room, but plan on putting it back by the time I need to flip to 12 hrs. Can anyone think of a way I could run this without putting holes through the wall?
If I let it run under the door, well, I can't, door is a snug fit and would flatten tubing...the 2nd part of my question, I saw greenthumbsuckers setup and grow log (which convinced me on this system, btw..) and he seems to have his hard plumbed with PVC pipe?
How difficult would this be to do? And could I keep all 15 plants in the footprint of 1-1,000 watter, or may I have to change to 2-600 watters (which I have read are more efficient to both the plants and electricity bills)
Any Washington Medical patients on here using this system?
Also, I noticed the pumps are extremely cheesey and cheap (I have a huge koi pond, so I KNOW what a good pump looks like) these come apart on one side, where you attach the suction cups, I can barely get them to stay together, should I upgrade or just use some crazy glue?
Any pics of how you have your systems plumbed would be great (note: the first thing I have ever built was 2 PVC manifold things with sprayers attached because I was going to use the 6' netpots and totes, but could not find 1 type that didn't leak when I turned on my 550 GPH pump)
Am so glad I found this thread...I went and got GH micro and bloom only, plan to do the lucas formula but can't find an exact answer on when to start feeding my babies( I have 7 seedlings that popped about 8 days ago and most are working on their 2nd set of leaves, which is when I was told to start feeding..at 2 sets of leafs? And I can't imagine you'd start babes out with the 8ml/16ml dose..
Any help there would be greatly appreciated...do you E&G users that start from seed, or clone for that matter, wait until the roots come out the bottom of the rock wool before putting into the system?
I have my 7 babies in the pots already with hydroton, but am hand watering until I feel it's safe to start feeding them...will attach a couple pics of them, I read on a few sites not to give any nutes for 3-4 weeks...that seems a long time with no food..though I DO USE CLONEX, which is 1-.5-1 in my h20 waterings.
Thanks in advance for any input...
Carie
I knew there HAD to be a thread for E&G users, so glad I finally found it mentioned on another thread and looked it up under a users profile who mentioned it (mucho thanks!)
OK..I have a room that is 8x6, I panda filmed off an area of about 6x5, which is where it will all ultimately be setup...with the smaller part of the room entrance basically has my table for all my junk, nutes, meters, etc..outside this room is my utility room with my washer/dryer and a huge shelf/wall unit..in the corner outside the grow room is where I am going to keep my Res. It's a cold area, not well insulated, and can't afford a chiller at this time, so I figure this will work out nicely, except the tubing is so squirley from being wound up in tight rolls, they won't lay on the ground, just kind of corkskrew there way into the room.
The door is off the room, but plan on putting it back by the time I need to flip to 12 hrs. Can anyone think of a way I could run this without putting holes through the wall?
If I let it run under the door, well, I can't, door is a snug fit and would flatten tubing...the 2nd part of my question, I saw greenthumbsuckers setup and grow log (which convinced me on this system, btw..) and he seems to have his hard plumbed with PVC pipe?
How difficult would this be to do? And could I keep all 15 plants in the footprint of 1-1,000 watter, or may I have to change to 2-600 watters (which I have read are more efficient to both the plants and electricity bills)
Any Washington Medical patients on here using this system?
Also, I noticed the pumps are extremely cheesey and cheap (I have a huge koi pond, so I KNOW what a good pump looks like) these come apart on one side, where you attach the suction cups, I can barely get them to stay together, should I upgrade or just use some crazy glue?
Any pics of how you have your systems plumbed would be great (note: the first thing I have ever built was 2 PVC manifold things with sprayers attached because I was going to use the 6' netpots and totes, but could not find 1 type that didn't leak when I turned on my 550 GPH pump)
Am so glad I found this thread...I went and got GH micro and bloom only, plan to do the lucas formula but can't find an exact answer on when to start feeding my babies( I have 7 seedlings that popped about 8 days ago and most are working on their 2nd set of leaves, which is when I was told to start feeding..at 2 sets of leafs? And I can't imagine you'd start babes out with the 8ml/16ml dose..
Any help there would be greatly appreciated...do you E&G users that start from seed, or clone for that matter, wait until the roots come out the bottom of the rock wool before putting into the system?
I have my 7 babies in the pots already with hydroton, but am hand watering until I feel it's safe to start feeding them...will attach a couple pics of them, I read on a few sites not to give any nutes for 3-4 weeks...that seems a long time with no food..though I DO USE CLONEX, which is 1-.5-1 in my h20 waterings.
Thanks in advance for any input...
Carie
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Looking good newwb watch the flood line for a bit! You might have to hand water till you get roots
newwb
Active Member
ohh I have trouble!!
I put about 25 gal in res to test it out and give them a good watering, somethings not right...it doesn't fill but maybe 2-3", and when I click it to drain, it runs and runs...and nothing empties out that sm amount in each bucket...and on my control module the center grommet on both sides leaks...like not just a little, but enough I had to lay a towel down.
Now my floor in the laundry room is about an inch or so lower than the rooms floor, which I thought, great, I don't have to set them up on anything to get them to drain completely..maybe I don't have the correct tubing going, the directions were laughable and not very helpful..
Should I just wait until roots come through the bottom of the 4"x4" rock wool before I start flood/draining twice a day?
What would you recommend?
Frustrated in Seattle
I put about 25 gal in res to test it out and give them a good watering, somethings not right...it doesn't fill but maybe 2-3", and when I click it to drain, it runs and runs...and nothing empties out that sm amount in each bucket...and on my control module the center grommet on both sides leaks...like not just a little, but enough I had to lay a towel down.
Now my floor in the laundry room is about an inch or so lower than the rooms floor, which I thought, great, I don't have to set them up on anything to get them to drain completely..maybe I don't have the correct tubing going, the directions were laughable and not very helpful..
Should I just wait until roots come through the bottom of the 4"x4" rock wool before I start flood/draining twice a day?
What would you recommend?
Frustrated in Seattle