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Osburn

Osburn

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Thanks for the info guys. Shimming out the front of the brain bucket and keeping tubing to a minimum did the trick. Now I have another problem:

The fill pump is getting some kind of ciphon effect during drain cycle and pumping water into the brain bucket. If I unplug the drain pump hose, the ciphon effect stops. How do I prevent this from happening?
 
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tommyo3000

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Put a 90 degree elbow just under the lid of the barrel leaving pump1 (just like the pic, but keep the elbow INSIDE the bucket..) drill a tiny hole in the bend of the 90 degree elbow.. it will break the siphon effect...

It will also "pee" a little as it fills, so make sure it is inside of your barrel..

also, keep the 90 degree elbow above the water line in the barrel.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
tommyo3000 said:


put a 90 degree elbow just under the lid of the barrel leaving pump1 (just like the pic, but keep the elnow INSIDE the bucket.. drill a tiny hole in the bend of the 90 degree elbow.. it will break the siphon effect...
it will also "pee" a little as it fills, so make sure it is inside of your barrel..

also, keep the 90 degree elbow above the water line in the barrel.
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well put +rep
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

Active Member
tommyo3000 said:
I've just started using bleach instead of H2O2 and Hygrozyme.. and OMG. I can't believe I have not used this all along.. Works great, is cheap as hell...just like my hot tub.. anyway..
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What is the rate of bleach that you are adding per gallon? My res is starting to smell funky.... =( What would be a safe amount to add to clean up a problem, and what is the rate for daily-ish maintenance? Plants are on day 37 of 12/12.
 
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tommyo3000

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Ferredoxin said:
What is the rate of bleach that you are adding per gallon? My res is starting to smell funky.... =( What would be a safe amount to add to clean up a problem, and what is the rate for daily-ish maintenance? Plants are on day 37 of 12/12.
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" You can't use either with organic fertilizers and should not use chlorox or H2O2 with organic supplements. Just add the chlorox as indicated. You want an initial dose as spelled out in the other thread at 2.5 ppm initally as some will be used to oxidice any present rot. with out a meter to test for residual chlorine I would just start with the 2.5 ppm and then 0.5 ppm every two days after that until the problem a has cleared up. "

Quick and dirty

Flairform Pythoff copy

100ml of Clorox Regular bleach per 1 gallon of water
(Adding the water/bleach dilute from above)

5ml per gallon of nutrient solution the first day
2.5ml per gallon of nutrient solution each following day
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
tommyo3000 said:
" You can't use either with organic fertilizers and should not use chlorox or H2O2 with organic supplements. Just add the chlorox as indicated. You want an initial dose as spelled out in the other thread at 2.5 ppm initally as some will be used to oxidice any present rot. with out a meter to test for residual chlorine I would just start with the 2.5 ppm and then 0.5 ppm every two days after that until the problem a has cleared up. "

Quick and dirty

Flairform Pythoff copy

100ml of Clorox Regular bleach per 1 gallon of water
(Adding the water/bleach dilute from above)

5ml per gallon of nutrient solution the first day
2.5ml per gallon of nutrient solution each following day
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not sure where you get this levels to use but in no way should you use 100ML per gal
and 5ML pr gal is to much also. a safe level is 7 eye drops per gal and for 55gal use
15 to 20 ml of plain uncented bleach. also bleach and H202 can be used with some
organic just not organics with micro-organsims.

not trying to step on toes but with bleach those levels are to high!!
 
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tommyo3000

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The pythoff copy is a recipe to make 1gallon of Pythoff-style concentrate. You then use that concentrate in your rez at 5mL/gallon the first day and 2.5mL/gallon each day thereafter to keep a residual .5PPM free chlorine.
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

Active Member
hellraizer30 said:
not sure where you get this levels to use but in no way should you use 100ML per gal
and 5ML pr gal is to much also. a safe level is 7 eye drops per gal and for 55gal use
15 to 20 ml of plain uncented bleach. also bleach and H202 can be used with some
organic just not organics with micro-organsims.

not trying to step on toes but with bleach those levels are to high!!
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I get what he is saying. You add 100ml of bleach per gallon (~2.5% bleach) to use as your base solution, then add the solution at 5ml/gal for first day, 2.5 each following day. And everyone's plants look okay using bleach, right? Sounds WAYYYYYYY cheaper than 35% H2O2, which I am using at 0.5ml/gal every other day or so.
 
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tommyo3000

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Wayyyy cheaper. You can measure your chlorine levels, too. There are digital pens on eBay, or use a pool tester (droppers).

I'm about to buy a pen.... Can use it on my hot tub. I use chlorine in the tub at the same levels. 2.5PPM as a shock and .5ppm residual.

Pythoff is an expensive chlorine product..

This recipe is for 5% or 6% bleach, btw.
 
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yum114

Active Member
I currently have a brand new 800GPH ActiveAqua pump that is not in use. I was wondering would upgrading the stock pump to my ActiveAqua 800GPH pump do any harm to the system or make anything function in a negative way or would it be a good thing?
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Yes upgrading is ok a 800gph is fine just going to fill faster or drain faster, your useing the monster ebb and
It has 3/4 tubeing so you got alot of room to upgrade pumps and such
 
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yum114

Active Member
hellraizer30 said:
Yes upgrading is ok a 800gph is fine just going to fill faster or drain faster, your useing the monster ebb and
It has 3/4 tubeing so you got alot of room to upgrade pumps and such
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appreciate it HR. Should I also upgrade the tubing? If so should I keep it the same size or go bigger? I hear they ti\ubing they give you is horrible
 
Tamorin

Tamorin

Active Member
Cap pissed me off with the pump they had inside the monster when it first came out damn thing was too big to get all the water out so the float valve would turn off. But I put a smaller pump in and I'm all set. What did u guys do break the check valve?
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Tamorin said:
Cap pissed me off with the pump they had inside the monster when it first came out damn thing was too big to get all the water out so the float valve would turn off. But I put a smaller pump in and I'm all set. What did u guys do break the check valve?
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I have x4 ebb systems and none of them came
With a check valve
 
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MoJobud

Active Member
I emailed a guy at cap and per his email he says that the check valve was supposed to be included. It took about 2-3 weeks from his email but I got one. It's friggen huge.
 
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