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hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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thom znamer said:
this is my first time with the ebb and grow system. i have the expansion set. i'm using the general hydroponics expert recirculating program. floragro (12.5ml) floramicro (7.5ml) florabloom (2.5ml) diamond nector (10ml) floralicious grow (2.5ml) this is all mixed up for 45 gallons i also added after all was mixed humboldt verde (40ml) and gh ca mg+ (40ml) okay for monitoring reasons i'm using nutradip trimeter. my temp is staying at 67 in the rez ph is at 6.1 and ppm is 1400ish. in the buckets i'm using the suretogrow inserts that fit. i'm using inline fan and a large goblin filter for smell. my room temp and humidity are where they should be. i moniter this using a active air hygro thermometer. as for lighting i'm using 4 xtrasun reflectors with 600hps bulbs and phantom digi ballasts. my plants are doing really bad two have died and ive done everything the way i should have. any pointers?
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sound like your on point but your ph should be 5.5 to 5.8 and pics would be helpful and 1400ppm how old are they cuz if there babys or baby boomer size plant
you shouldd drop to 800ish I had the same problem that led to a nute lock out and I had to flush and start over
 
doniawon

doniawon

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hellraizer30 said:
im using 29% at 7ml a gal every 3 day and I cant keep this whitish brown foam
from my rez, ive flushed twice and cleaned the systen out each time:(
View attachment 1390586ive got filter bags on my pumps but its still geting into my control box, rez temp is 69 to 70 and its making it hell to stablize my ph anybody else having this problem? the only thing i put in there is GH floral 3 part and h202, first time i flush with floral
shield then refilled with h202 and GH mix
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are you using synthetic nutrients? sugars and organics will cause that, so will residual neem like azamax. ..
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
doniawon said:
are you using synthetic nutrients? sugars and organics will cause that, so will residual neem like azamax. ..
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just GH and superthrive but im not going to use that anymore, seems with the h202 im able to control it but its still there even after changing the rez water
and cleaning it and the controll box, plant are only showing signs of the edges curling in, not sure what causes this
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
got a question about feeding, so what ive read you dont flood during lights out? and flood every 3 to 4 when lights on?
just want to confirm what ive read thanks guys/girls
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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Watering plants when it is dark time just gets them wet. They dont drink anything or produce anything at night. All you do is increase the possibility of overwatering by watering at night time. So, hour after lights turn on start first water, then space out however many times you want to water across the rest of the day.
 
BiteSizeFreak

BiteSizeFreak

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Just entered week 2 of flowering on my first grow with this system. When flushing before harvest using RO water do you still add Cal/Mag or just pure water? Also how long do YOU flush with how many res changes? I've heard a week, two weeks, 10 days, etc...
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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BiteSizeFreak said:
Just entered week 2 of flowering on my first grow with this system. When flushing before harvest using RO water do you still add Cal/Mag or just pure water? Also how long do YOU flush with how many res changes? I've heard a week, two weeks, 10 days, etc...
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You *can* empty the rez and fill with R/O water if you want. There's just no real reason to. After your last week of nutrient feed is done, just add water, no nutrients. No calmag needed. The ppm will lower over the last week till its around 300-400 or so and its the perfect flush. You dont flush for a particular time, just till they are done once they've packed on their weight (Week 6-7).

Kitty
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
View attachment 1411465View attachment 1411464View attachment 1411463View attachment 1411462View attachment 1411461some upgrades to the system, reason for it, is to
get that flimsy 1/2 in. tubing out of there. And to make it a quick disconect to the rez for cleaning. also changing out the tubing for the
pots to hard line. will post pics on that to, also changed the pumps to green leaves 160 for some faster flow. last thing I did was to raise
the pot up by 2in with drain plates to lower flood line from the command box.
 
Ferredoxin

Ferredoxin

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Are those in-line filters or pressure regulators just above the control box? I thought about rigging a quick disconnect also...that would be nice. Well done.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

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Ferredoxin said:
Are those in-line filters or pressure regulators just above the control box? I thought about rigging a quick disconnect also...that would be nice. Well done.
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in line filters. cleaning this system a bit of a bitch so is why I went to quick disconects. Ive been fighting a brown sludge that I got somehow in my res tank so I
put filter bags on the pumps and inline filters traps to catch the loose stuff.
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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filter bags and inline filters, seems to me it would just provide more media for microbes to grow on. The microbes themselves can pass right through those filters.
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
shnkrmn said:
filter bags and inline filters, seems to me it would just provide more media for microbes to grow on. The microbes themselves can pass right through those filters.
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the h202 takes care of the microbes Im guessing, and the inline filters and filter bags are for catching the larger chunks that I might of missed during
cleaning and what might come back from the pots and line down stream from the cammand box, also help with sediment from the clay pellets.
overkill maybe but better to be safe. I clean those filters daily and they catch alot of stuff
 
shnkrmn

shnkrmn

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I've looked at your setup. You've done some nice upgrades to your system but I see one thing that you could do better on; your air pump is small for a 55 gallon res. Not just the capacity but the depth; I'm pretty sure the water pressure down at the bottom of that res is enough to cause your air pump to struggle. I keep 4 airstones in my large res attached to a 30watt pump; looks like a jacuzzi. Upgrade from the aquarium pump and I think you'll resolve your goo problem. I use bleach at .5-1ml per gallon if I see any problems. I'm an H2O2 skeptic, plus I have over 100 gallons of res capacity. Dosing regularly with H2O2 is pretty expensive at that volume. Fortunately, I don't get rot. And, no, bleach does not stunt my plants or poison my crop. It is used in commercial hydroponics constantly.
 
researchkitty

researchkitty

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H2O2 isnt needed if you have the proper amount of air pumps in your reservoir (1 watt per gallon). It doesnt do anything with respect to microbes or keeping things clean, it's just liquid air.

It's more useful, in my opinion, for the water that gets left behind in the buckets while draining, which gives the roots that extra o2 that are still touching some of the water. Some people raise buckets, but that's a great way to get the tips of roots to dry out rather than making a plant better..............
 
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