Flushing super soils?

Green wiggler

Green wiggler

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Not ammonia, just weird odor but it's going away the longer they cure. It's weird, i took some out of the jar and put it in a zip lock for a few days and it started smelling better, skunky. All my jars were qt.size until i got some gallon size but it's not like they were stuffed full. I left room in there to shake em up.
 
Green wiggler

Green wiggler

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Truth is, I sprayed 2 of these plants with neem oil during their first few weeks of flowering because i thought i had a white mildew issue. It was my first grow and my the trichomes were busting out under my AGLEX 1000. I know that was stupid but the thing is i had taken clones from these plants way before that had happened and the clones small exactly like them. They were never sprayed at all with anything and exactly the same odor.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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GanjaJack said:
Listen carefully....

At end of life Cannabis slows down taking nutrients from it's root zone as it takes too much energy not to mention it's the wrong kind of nutrients that the plant wants. The nutrients the plants want are what has been converted in the leaf to potassium. Which is why the leaves will start to yellow and die at the end of flowering as the plants leach all the nitrogen, that was transported from the roots to the leaf, converting it to potassium and transporting it to the bud.

So if you flush all that potassium out of the leaf, the buds have nothing left to feed on and will reflect such by producing smaller yields.

Plant nutrient formulas reflect this by using high nitrogen at vegetative growth and then high potassium and lower nitrogen at flowering. Just because leaves are yellow doesn't mean they aren't doing their jobs of using light energy to convert nutrients into the stuff they need to grow. It just means that the yellow leaves are doing their jobs at a much reduced rate. (Think I read that it's like only reduced by 35%, somewhere not sure where I read that, so don't quote me.)
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Maybe you should reread what you typed. It's not correct. Nitrogen (an element) cannot be converted into potassium (another element).

Although the plant is drawing stored compounds from the leaves near the end of life. That is one reason leaves will turn yellow. The petiole on a yellowing leaf will also change color at that point as well. Then it will eventually wither and finally fall off. But a plant does not convert one element into another.
 
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Scuzzman

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the best part of the Flushing Trial--

CONCLUSION
In a first of its kind study, Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of flushing period on yield, potency, terpenes, mineral content, and taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Overall, the length of the flushing period did not impact yield, potency, terpenes, or taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Taste test results indicated a trend toward improved flavor and smoke quality with the zero-day flush. While there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days. The results of this trial indicate that there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.

:bigjoint:
 
GanjaJack

GanjaJack

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JimmiP said:
Maybe you should reread what you typed. It's not correct. Nitrogen (an element) cannot be converted into potassium (another element).

Although the plant is drawing stored compounds from the leaves near the end of life. That is one reason leaves will turn yellow. The petiole on a yellowing leaf will also change color at that point as well. Then it will eventually wither and finally fall off. But a plant does not convert one element into another.
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Yeah, I made some mistakes there, thats what happens when smoking too much weed and posting bro-science.

When it comes right down to it, flush or don't flush, doesn't fucking matter to anyone else but the person doing it. The only thing it really is, is a tool for trolls on these forums, used as a way to make one feel like fucking experts when they're not.

So flush,,, flush it down the fucking toilet for all I give a fuck.
 
GanjaJack

GanjaJack

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Scuzzman said:
the best part of the Flushing Trial--

CONCLUSION
In a first of its kind study, Rx Green Technologies evaluated the effects of flushing period on yield, potency, terpenes, mineral content, and taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Overall, the length of the flushing period did not impact yield, potency, terpenes, or taste characteristics of Cannabis flower. Taste test results indicated a trend toward improved flavor and smoke quality with the zero-day flush. While there were no significant differences in nutrient content, there was a trend toward increased iron and zinc in flower flushed for 14 days. The results of this trial indicate that there is no benefit to flushing Cannabis flower for improved taste or consumer experience.

:bigjoint:
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Yes and when I posted that same study, I was attacked for claiming that flushing is a waste of time and provides no benefit.

At which point the troller claimed that "well not flushing doesn't do anything, so why NOT do it?"

Like I said, it's a tool for trolls used to attack others unnecessarily and start up an argument.

I refuse to participate in this bullshit anymore.
 
MY OWN DANK

MY OWN DANK

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Green wiggler said:
I'm just wondering, coz i know all the growers that stock the dispensaries and most of the people selling are usually in a hurry to flip their harvest and i would bet that 9 out of 10 don't take a whole lot of time flushing and if it really matters.
The other reason is i can't figure out where my chemical odor came from or if it could have just been the strain. It was bag seed but some of the best i ever smoked after it cued for 2 months.
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Is that brick weed broken up?
 
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DoobieDoobs

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GanjaJack said:
Yes and when I posted that same study, I was attacked for claiming that flushing is a waste of time and provides no benefit.

At which point the troller claimed that "well not flushing doesn't do anything, so why NOT do it?"

Like I said, it's a tool for trolls used to attack others unnecessarily and start up an argument.

I refuse to participate in this bullshit anymore.
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well, while everyone can have their own interpretation of this small study, it does say in the conclusions that testers preferred unflushed flowers, and testers didn't know which ones were flushed and which ones were unflushed.

edit: and to those trolls saying that if it doesn't change anything then why not do it, well I would say that it's a waste of good water.
 
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JimmiP

JimmiP

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DoobieDoobs said:
well, while everyone can have their own interpretation of this small study, it does say in the conclusions that testers preferred unflushed flowers, and testers didn't know which ones were flushed and which ones were unflushed.

edit: and to those trolls saying that if it doesn't change anything then why not do it, well I would say that it's a waste of good water.
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Right on!
 
Hollatchaboy

Hollatchaboy

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DoobieDoobs said:
well, while everyone can have their own interpretation of this small study, it does say in the conclusions that testers preferred unflushed flowers, and testers didn't know which ones were flushed and which ones were unflushed.

edit: and to those trolls saying that if it doesn't change anything then why not do it, well I would say that it's a waste of good water.
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I'll say this, in living soil, you absolutely don't want to flush water through it. You'll wash out most of the biology and destroy whatever is left. Also, I've asked this before, when does nature flush? When I started smoking weed, there wasn't any indoor. Shit tasted great! In some cases better than what I find nowadays Do outdoor guys flush their weed?
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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Hollatchaboy said:
I'll say this, in living soil, you absolutely don't want to flush water through it. You'll wash out most of the biology and destroy whatever is left. Also, I've asked this before, when does nature flush? When I started smoking weed, there wasn't any indoor. Shit tasted great! In some cases better than what I find nowadays Do outdoor guys flush their weed?
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Heck no!
 
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