Flushing question, no debates please.

jonsnow399

jonsnow399

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Elvin Bishop said:
Right, bud. Keep smoking trash. What state do you live in? Just curious. It's not so much the truth about flushing; it's more the truth about most people not being as dialed as they like to think they are, while they smoke nutrients and then toss around scientific evidence that they cannot accurately apply to their grow. Do you know for a fact you're not over feeding even slightly? You don't. Further more, you would smoke it all while telling people how you don't need to flush. No matter what medium, you should do some form of flush. I would never smoke your marijuana, and I would tell everyone I know not to. The truth about flushing is that you don't have the technology to know that your EC is EXACTLY right per the strain. I like knowing what goes in my body. You're talking about things that most people really don't have the technology to do. Knowing it is great, being able to effectively do it is a different thing all together. I understand the science behind it, but I have little faith in your, or most people's ability to accurately apply that science.
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a long post like that I thought you would have included some scientific evidence for "flushing". I'll wait.
 
Elvin Bishop

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jonsnow399 said:
If you really want to be safe I heard you should boil your buds in a pressure cooker ford 3 hrs.
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I understand the recipe calls for 3 hours, 2 minutes 36 seconds. I'm just going to take it out at 3 hours to make sure it doesn't burn,
jonsnow399 said:
I must be psychic, I somehow knew that.
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You're a puke. You haven't provided anything solid to support your reasoning for NOT flushing marijuana after I ask, and then think you're smart enough to get me to provide YOU with evidence that I need to, as if not flushing is the standard. You're a clown. Gotta go to work. Get at me later
 
Tim Fox

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Elvin Bishop said:
I think it is kind of funny that anyone would actually try to debate with you on if you should flush or not. Yes...flush. To anyone that says flushing is useless... Find me evidence that crackling, harsh weed that won't burn is where it's at and that there is no benefit in some form of flushing... until then, I'm not hearing it. I don't and won't smoke anyone's weed who doesn't flush it, and wouldn't recommend it.
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So let me get this straight,, i grow in No Till organic soil,, and then its WATER ONLY the whole ride, ,, so now your telling me that at the end of my grow i need to FLUSH with LOTS of water,,, to flush what out?,,,, when i was only giving the plant WATER the entire time?,,,,, you have more explaining to do
 
jonsnow399

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Elvin Bishop said:
I understand the recipe calls for 3 hours, 2 minutes 36 seconds. I'm just going to take it out at 3 hours to make sure it doesn't burn,

You're a puke. You haven't provided anything solid to support your reasoning for NOT flushing marijuana after I ask, and then think you're smart enough to get me to provide YOU with evidence that I need to, as if not flushing is the standard. You're a clown.
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flushing WAS the standard , bout 30 years ago when nobody knew better and read High times for info.
 
Elvin Bishop

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Tim Fox said:
So let me get this straight,, i grow in No Till organic soil,, and then its WATER ONLY the whole ride, ,, so now your telling me that at the end of my grow i need to FLUSH with LOTS of water,,, to flush what out?,,,, when i was only giving the plant WATER the entire time?,,,,, you have more explaining to do
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NO, I really don't. Grow your weed however you want. It's funny because you're all missing the point. I don't think that any of you are truly tuned enough not to flush.
 
Tim Fox

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Elvin Bishop said:
NO, I really don't. Grow your weed however you want.
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so come on mr smarty pants,,, what am i flushing out when i didnt put any "salts" or chemicals in the begin with,, will my weed be crucnchy since i only put water on the whole grow,, lets hear it
 
Elvin Bishop

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Tim Fox said:
so come on mr smarty pants,,, what am i flushing out when i didnt put any "salts" or chemicals in the begin with,, will my weed be crucnchy since i only put water on the whole grow,, lets hear it
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That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Of course it won't. If you over feed like most people do, and think you're super tuned in like you aren't, yes... it will crackle.
 
Jimdamick

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Oh boy, the debate has started.
It's my opinion, as stupid as it may sound to some, that flushing is a waste of time.
I used nutes in my soil grows, especially in the final stage, and figured that it would be impossible for a couple of flushes to clean out the root system, or the bud, especially at week 8.
As far as bad burning bud it has a lot to do with the cure, not necessarily whether you use nutes or not, but to each their own.
 
CriticalCheeze

CriticalCheeze

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Elvin Bishop said:
I think it is kind of funny that anyone would actually try to debate with you on if you should flush or not. Yes...flush. To anyone that says flushing is useless... Find me evidence that crackling, harsh weed that won't burn is where it's at and that there is no benefit in some form of flushing... until then, I'm not hearing it. I don't and won't smoke anyone's weed who doesn't flush it, and wouldn't recommend it.
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You obviously don't understand how plants work. And most of the elements they uptake.
If your weed is crackling and hash as hell than. it was cured wrong and is still wet.
Keep wasting your water and telling yourself you're doing something good for your weed when all you are doing is inviting bud rot and mold to form with the pool level amount of water you wastefully dump into the soil.

Water doesn't 'push' out nutrients from the plant. Half the elements plants uptake are NOT EVEN MOBILE. Therefore they stay in the plants system. Christ half the nitrogen some people use in their nutes isn't even water soluble nitrogen.
When you dump all that water through and then in a few days you magically see fan leaves yellowing it is not because you' flushed' it's just part of the plants natural cycle to do what it does.

Keep spreading false information about a myth. Instead of 'thinking' you know, go read a few horticultural books.
I'm not talking about Jorge cervantes or anything like that. An actually informational horticulture book.
You might learn a few things.
 
Indacouch

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oldfogey420 said:
I don't want to come off as rude, but I don't care to hear the debate, I'm one who flushes at the end of flower. That's what I've personally determined works best for great tastings buds, so that's what I've stuck with over the years. I've always, always, always flushed with pH adjusted water but usually don't have such big containers as right now. I'm at 7 weeks flower with 8 week strains in 5 gallon containers.

I'm thinking of putting them in the slop sink and running the faucet to flush them with my 8.0 tap water and then run 1 or two additional gallons through at 6.2 to get the pH where it should be.
Otherwise I'm looking at having to make up about 100 gallons of pH'd water, 5 gallons at a time. Thats alot of effing work that i just dont have time nor energy for.

Does pH really even matter with 1 week left? I don't want them getting anything from the soil anyway, I want them to eat up their stores and finish up.

Your thoughts?
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I'm here for the flushing debate....


Poor baby rhinos
 
Indacouch

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Elvin Bishop said:
I think it is kind of funny that anyone would actually try to debate with you on if you should flush or not. Yes...flush. To anyone that says flushing is useless... Find me evidence that crackling, harsh weed that won't burn is where it's at and that there is no benefit in some form of flushing... until then, I'm not hearing it. I don't and won't smoke anyone's weed who doesn't flush it, and wouldn't recommend it.
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LMFAO .....hehe
 
CriticalCheeze

CriticalCheeze

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Elvin Bishop said:
Right, bud. Keep smoking trash. What state do you live in? Just curious. It's not so much the truth about flushing; it's more the truth about most people not being as dialed as they like to think they are, while they smoke nutrients and then toss around scientific evidence that they cannot accurately apply to their grow. Do you know for a fact you're not over feeding even slightly? You don't. Further more, you would smoke it all while telling people how you don't need to flush. No matter what medium, you should do some form of flush. I would never smoke your marijuana, and I would tell everyone I know not to. The truth about flushing is that you don't have the technology to know that your EC is EXACTLY right per the strain. I like knowing what goes in my body. You're talking about things that most people really don't have the technology to do. Knowing it is great, being able to effectively do it is a different thing all together. I understand the science behind it, but I have little faith in your, or most people's ability to accurately apply that science.
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LOL
 
Johnny Lawrence

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Elvin Bishop said:
it's more the truth about most people not being as dialed as they like to think they are, while they smoke nutrients and then toss around scientific evidence that they cannot accurately apply to their grow.
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So from a strictly scientific standpoint, could you please explain to me what flushing does?

Also, why would I be "smoking nutrients" if I refrain from flushing? Could you please explain this one to me as well? Thanks.
 
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