Flushing end of 3rd week?

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BiggieMidwest

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I'm getting mixed advice and haven't done it but I have had problems with nitrogen build up after 3rd week. This run I was considering fox farms sledgehammer. Says to flush each plant with it and a gallon of RO, then continue feeding next watering cycle. This would be 3 days of no nutrients for the plant as the soil takes 3 days to dry. Not sure if that would help not feeding but the other part is the schedule calls for feeding all the way to harvest and a 3 day flush with this sledge says it will work. I'm a skeptic as I have always faded my plants with a longer flush.. Apparently I'm told I'm missing key feeding times for final weight and resin development by flushing for 10 days. I'm open to new things but not at my expense if it fucks up any reassurance or advice?
 
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BiggieMidwest

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BiggieMidwest said:
I'm getting mixed advice and haven't done it but I have had problems with nitrogen build up after 3rd week. This run I was considering fox farms sledgehammer. Says to flush each plant with it and a gallon of RO, then continue feeding next watering cycle. This would be 3 days of no nutrients for the plant as the soil takes 3 days to dry. Not sure if that would help not feeding but the other part is the schedule calls for feeding all the way to harvest and a 3 day flush with this sledge says it will work. I'm a skeptic as I have always faded my plants with a longer flush.. Apparently I'm told I'm missing key feeding times for final weight and resin development by flushing for 10 days. I'm open to new things but not at my expense if it fucks up any reassurance or advice?
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I will add I worked off clones so veg time was only 2 weeks with minimal nitrogen to begin with in happy frog potting mix, thia was an attempt to lower the amount of nitrogen being added to the medium.
 
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xtsho

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Why are you flushing your plants? You can't flush anything out of the plant. How do you know you have nitrogen build up? Are they dark green with leaves curling down? If so then you're feeding too much and just cut down on the feeding. You don't have to feed every watering.
 
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xtsho

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Are you using everything in the FoxFarm feeding schedule? Because I just looked at it and the ec/ppm's are insane. No wonder I read so many posts of people using FoxFarms, following their feeding schedule, and having issues. 2100 ppm's at week four? I don't ever run even half of that throughout the entire grow. And that's in coco that doesn't have anything in it. If you're in soil that already has amendments in it that seems like way too much. No wonder they have you flushing the medium out. They have people dumping way too much stuff on their plants.

This chart is for growing in Ocean Forest which already has enough stuff in it to keep the plants fed for weeks.
Crazy

 
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LinguaPeel

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xtsho said:
Why are you flushing your plants? You can't flush anything out of the plant. How do you know you have nitrogen build up? Are they dark green with leaves curling down? If so then you're feeding too much and just cut down on the feeding. You don't have to feed every watering.
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You flush the root zone so the plant stops taking up what was in it the root zone. Thats how you flush a plant, by stopping uptake and using up ferts already in the plant without replenishing them. Why is this only complicated to e-growers?
 
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xtsho

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It's not complicated at all. Don't overfeed your plants to begin with and you won't have excess nutrients in the root zone. What's so complicated about that? And what is this using up what's in the plant? Do you mean the yellowing leaves that everyone calls the fade and think is needed but is actually the sign of a starving plant? You're not stopping nutrient flow to the flowers you're just cannibalizing the plant potentially reducing yield when the plant runs out of nutrients when the buds are still swelling and ripening.

And what is an e-grower? Someone with a basic understanding of actual plant science?
 
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KryptoBud

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LinguaPeel said:
You flush the root zone so the plant stops taking up what was in it the root zone. Thats how you flush a plant, by stopping uptake and using up ferts already in the plant without replenishing them. Why is this only complicated to e-growers?
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Where do these "used up ferts" go? And how Do you stop a plants nute uptake in soil?
Try looking up nute remobilization during senesence.

Heres the definition of remobilization.
remobilization. Noun. (plural remobilizations) The return of a substance to circulation within a system, such as substances which had been locked in sediments. (medicine) A return to mobility.

All "flushing" does is shuffle mobile nutes from leaf to flower, creating deficiency of immobile nutes causing break downs in the plants metabolic processes. With your logic you could shovel 20 big macs down ya face hole everyday as long as you drank a glass of water before bed. Thanks for e spreading your infinite lack of knowledge.
 
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.RootDown

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While flushing can be used to rid the medium of excess nutrients if needed, the real purpose is to remove the salt buildup.
 
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