Flushing. A different take

st0wandgrow

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Thanks mr newsflash, but you didn't answer my questions with your copy/paste job. You just copy/pasted the process of leaves and pine needles falling to the ground, biodegrading in the soil, and feeding the plants. Your little paragraph about senescence isn't accurate either. Here: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/463317/plant-development/63903/Senescence-in-plants
I won't bother copy/pasting the whole thing, but you're free to click the link and educate yourself.
Let's try this again. Please tell me what is in bottled nutes that accumulates in cannabis that should be flushed out, and how it differs from it's organic counterpart in the soil. Names of the chemicals and how they're considered salts inside the plant.



You're a moron. I'll bust out the crayons and try to connect the dots for you .....

Nutrients (see above), minerals, and toxins (see above) all accumulate in plant matter, particularly towards the end of the plants life cycle (see above). The difference (relating to this topic) between using synthetic nutrients, and growing organically is as follows: When using synthetics you are bi-passing the soil food web and directly feeding the plant. Most growers can only speculate as to what, when, and how much to feed the plant. It is very easy to over do and have excessive amounts of nutrients accumulate in plant matter. When growing organically the plant works in unison with the microbes in the soil and only takes what it needs, when it needs it resulting in very little (if any) accumulation of nutrients in plant tissue.

I don't know how to dumb it down for you any further than that...
 

GandalfdaGreen

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You're a moron. I'll bust out the crayons and try to connect the dots for you .....

Nutrients (see above), minerals, and toxins (see above) all accumulate in plant matter, particularly towards the end of the plants life cycle (see above). The difference (relating to this topic) between using synthetic nutrients, and growing organically is as follows: When using synthetics you are bi-passing the soil food web and directly feeding the plant. Most growers can only speculate as to what, when, and how much to feed the plant. It is very easy to over do and have excessive amounts of nutrients accumulate in plant matter. When growing organically the plant works in unison with the microbes in the soil and only takes what it needs, when it needs it resulting in very little (if any) accumulation of nutrients in plant tissue.

I don't know how to dumb it down for you any further than that...
I back st0w 100%. You would be very wise to listen to everything he tells you. He has taught me an incredible amount. Open your ears and turn on your brain.
 

GandalfdaGreen

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Thanks mr newsflash, but you didn't answer my questions with your copy/paste job. You just copy/pasted the process of leaves and pine needles falling to the ground, biodegrading in the soil, and feeding the plants. Your little paragraph about senescence isn't accurate either. Here: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/463317/plant-development/63903/Senescence-in-plants
I won't bother copy/pasting the whole thing, but you're free to click the link and educate yourself.
Let's try this again. Please tell me what is in bottled nutes that accumulates in cannabis that should be flushed out, and how it differs from it's organic counterpart in the soil. Names of the chemicals and how they're considered salts inside the plant.




Come on Dumbar. Are you serious? I used to read encyclopedia britannica when I was 10. :spew:
 

mckenzie41

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After reading this im confused more than before lol if you don't flush synthetic chems you must be mad especially hydro/ coco. I can vouch for there being a difference between flushed and un-flushed synthetic fed plants its probably to do with the chelate chems its strong acid which breaks down the nutrients and destroys microbes And dries to a bitter sickly tasting powder i.e salts. i blame people getting used to the taste of chemicals due to cowboy cash croppers who haven't even got the sense to take in a simple bit of info and save all there customers lungs.
Did you know synthetic chems are radioactive above background levels.

My opinion on weather or not to flush organic will be made up when i have finished my second organic grow as i can flush for two weeks with one and not at all with the other one, my primary concern is the taste of my buds if flushed organics tastes better id flush rather than save a few micro beasty's.
I have tried a bit of force dried bud of a g13 pe auto with about 12 days left so just had water for 2 days and there wasn't a noticeable chemical taste like synthetic shit. Although i could taste something that tastes exactly like bio Flores smells.
But its not that unpleasant and would probably not be present after 2 weeks hanging and a propper cure in jars.

Hope that helps anyone else who has just been confused the fuck outta by sum of the crap in this thread lol.

Peace
 

beuffer420

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Basically in a nutshell what's been said is synthetically the plant will hold onto most of the shit we wouldn't consider healthy to inhale if over fed and it's very easy to do so.

Organically the plant talks to the soil and only takes food when it's needed. So when harvest time comes around due to the fact the plant has only uptaken what it wants and not forced to take whatever thrown at it with no choice in the matter, there's a lot less crap in the plant matter.
 
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