Flowering and such- NY grow

Howdy,
So- I've got me nine little darlings a-growing merrily outside; they're about crotch high Sensi Seed Jamaican Pearls. Unfortunately I started them on May 25th-- (Been two months to date) so I don't suspect they'll grow out to their full potential. I live just north of Manhattan, and the ladies are out in a grassy border just outside of a bit of a wetland area I've got behind the homestead.

Although the soil's generally pretty damp -and would be too clay-ey if I hadn't supplemented the soil with perlite, mulch, compost etc-- I still water every week with a foxfarm big bloom/grow big and Canna Rhizotonic mixture.

Three weeks ago I fim'd them and they're filling out wonderfully. I also took off the suckers from the two bottom branches. Will taking those badboys off make my plants taller? Also, if I top those two buds that grow up after the first apical meristem is fim'd, will it just continue to bush out?

So what I'm wondering is when they might start to flower? Just for shits and giggles I checked out light cycles, and in my area, the sunlight hits 12 hrs/day on Sept. 22nd. Now, will my plants actually wait for this, or will they begin sooner? Sensi says they'll harvest on October 1st..... but.. really? I mean.. I want to be on top of my nutes (plan to use small quantities of Canna Boost, PK-13, Cannazyme--- and maybe Fox Farm Cha Ching, Open Sesame and Beastie Bloomz) to fucking capitalize on my yield.. but no idea when to start in with flowering solutions. Any ideas? When does flowering typically begin in lower NY? First outdoor grow round here

Additionally, I'm planning on snipping all the suckers (which.... I think is a good idea??...works on tomaters anyways) and growing out the cuttings.. Assuming I get them in the ground in a couple of weeks, is it possible that I can grow out some little dwarfed beauties? So long as the light cycle changes, they'll just get with the program.. right?

Sorry.... too many questions for one post, I know.
Any and all help is appreciated!

Take care

i also started mine on may 25th, and she hasnt started to flower yet. but then again, i jus brought her inside for flower. u should start to flower soon. some plants will start to flower during the 14 hr period. sensi gives their harvest month in amsterdam. good luck on the rest of the grow.

No, your plant will not wait until the days are 12hrs and then 'snap' into flowering. "12/12" has no bearing on outdoor growing and should be a banned word in this forum. It shouldn't be much longer until you start to see heavy pistil development, that is when you should start your bloom nutes.

It's a little late to be taking clones for outdoor use, IMO.

Good luck with the rest of your grow and be sure to report back at the end.

Angus said:

"12/12" has no bearing on outdoor growing and should be a banned word in this forum.

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who said n e thing about 12/12. read player. every town in every city of n e state or country has a longest day or days of the year. spring n summer being the longest 14+ hours of day light. fall n winter of course the opposite, shorter. with only 13- hours of day light.

theBiGPair00 said:

who said n e thing about 12/12. read player. every town in every city of n e state or country has a longest day or days of the year. spring n summer being the longest 14+ hours of day light. fall n winter of course the opposite, shorter. with only 13- hours of day light.

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Uhh...I believe the OP did, player.

Hold on, lemme check.

bubbleinthebrain said:

I checked out light cycles, and in my area, the sunlight hits 12 hrs/day on Sept. 22nd. Now, will my plants actually wait for this, or will they begin sooner?

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yessir, that would be a highly unintelligent uneducated unsupported assumption err query? of mine.. uhdurr.

anyways, yall should check back in a little while for some photos. ^10

bubbleinthebrain said:

anyways, yall should check back in a little while for some photos. ^10

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Will do, cap'n.

you all realize that the longest day of the year is the same for everyone in the northern hemishere june /21/22 depending on the year. Its the shortest day in the southern.hemisphere. the equinoxes are the same for everyone, everywhere. Sept 21/march21
so everyone please, enough with the "in my area 12 12 doesnt start till sept 22"
outdoor plants "know" when to flower so they finish before winter.
The exact flowering start times depend on factors too numerous to predict
Temp., humidity, altitude, amount of direct sunlight, nutes,and your latitude are all variables that can affect when your plant flowers.
So a blueberry clone will prob flower sooner in canada than the same clone in florida.
But not always. A stressed plant will sometimes flower early in a last ditch attempt to reproduce before it dies. common stresses that induce this are drought, lack off sunlight, and severe rootbinding
Its impossible to know till it happens.
good luck with the wait

So here are some photos-- its real hard to make out the plants amidst all the other vegetation... but I think you'll be able to get a sense of the grow.

I dont know if you'll be able to make it out, but there are two plants whos branches I've trained to grow out and away from each other by tying them loosely to a piece of twine and the other end to a branch or something.

they are all 5 ft tall, except for one little stunted one that practically died after a week of nonstop rain, but has made a very good comeback

they're Jamaican Pearl from Sensi Seeds.

cheers

oh, and the odd color contrast if due to early morning light in some photos and evening light in others.

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oh, and the odd color contrast if due to early morning light in some photos and evening light in others.

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Looking awesome, brother. You have some nice coverage, i bet they'd be damn near impossible to pick out from 50ft away if you didn't know they were there. You'd probably smell 'em before you saw 'em!

Yea the swamp grass they're up against is easily 7ft, which ull be good till next month when it all topples over. The smell is already wafting several hundred feet though The neighbors must be keeping their eyeballs out for a pack of smelly little skunks right about now.

you should prune all of those big sucker leaves off. it will make your plants alot bushier on the nodes. i live in upstate ny and have some stuff that is crossed with jamaican pearl and i started bagging them at night a little over a week ago. already starting to show heavy hairs. maybe thats something to think about to boost your harvest time up incase of a wet fall.

Don't cut off your fan leaves man! They're the fuel tanks, you're starting flower the plant is going to start eating itself to feed its new growth...don't starve it!

wait a tic... do you mean, phishy, that I should consider clipping the sucker branches- the little guys that grow directly on top of all the original branches (see http://www.taunton.com/CMS/uploadedImages/Images/kitchen_gardener/042027018_xlg.jpg )-- or the leaves? Losing the sucker branches is just common procedure for vine tomatoes.... but I sure as shit aint going to trim leaves off, unless you're talking about some sort of supercropping tech (see Grow Marijuana FAQ, Cannabis cultivation - marijuana growing tips & photos) I will snip a few fatty leaves that are directly in the way of a bud, but I ain't about to attack the little ones in a snipping frenzy.

please elaborate phishbrains!

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please elaborate phishbrains!

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There's nothing to elaborate on. He thinks you should cut off you fan leaves. You shouldn't. Case closed.

true that b

idk i trimmed some of my big fan leaves off and it seemed to make the "bud Branches" grow faster and get bushier. im not saying trimm all of them off, just thin it out a little and alow more light into the interior of the plant.

Pic 1 and 4 are the same plant pic 4 being 1wk before pic 1 in growth.

Pic 2 is of a local thai strain thats has been in the area for almost 20 generations.

pic 3 is a hindu kush clone that was given to me as a gift, i plan on breeding it with a purple#1 x JP male.

That wouldn't be too bad so long as you didn't overdo it. If you're lsting them anyway, why do you feel the need to trim your fan leaves?

the fan leaves were blocking the sunlight to the middle of the plant, so i snipped them off. it made them look a little scragly at first but in around a wk they perked right up and started to direct all theyre energy twords the nodes growing out. bc they started to get trained in the spring and then i got busy and left them to grow naturally all summer. now about 2wks ago i bent them over and prunned them and theyve all gotten alot bushier where it counts.which is a good thing, because ive been putting bags over them at night to induce flowering early because of the jp strain crossed with the white widow and purple #1. the NYCD is a straight strain from an indoor grow opp. one of my friends run. the hindu kush clone is from seed from nirvana