FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

Wish i could rep you again but i have to spread more around apparently

eastcoastmo said:

Wow brother you never disappoint hey, thank you for the bud porn man, im in serious awe right now!!

Damn mate, you've got 300g already off your jack, wow and there's still at least another 200 left on her, maybe more lol. Absolutely stellar effort once again mate

And that amster gold is exactly that...pure gold! She is a stunning plant too man! Love your work as always bro

I don't see why anyone else cant use this system as well hey, its piss easy and with the right nutes, it works for you if you look after them ive been pH'ing the res every day to keep it in the right zone and she's looking great! I'll update mine tomorrow!!

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lol cheerz again Easty! she sure is a sight for sore eyes

I hear you on the outdoor, i knew there was a fair bit, and i try not to get too excited, but having around 300 grams in just the colas, actually i shouldn't forget the other bunch of colas i took off just a few days ago, so around 700-800 grams in total.... WAAAAAAAY more than i first had anticipated, and if i didn't have such a laid back attitude i don't think i'd have the balls to have this in my backyard! even now with what's left on her, she stinks even worse, she has that over-ripe sour smell but still completely enjoyable for nighttime mess ups, or those times when you just want 1 and pass out. I think with the outdoors maturity ( not the actual ripeness in general ) her actually given age overall has somehow changed the characteristics of her buzz. Its out there! believe us when i say it batters your mind, and gets your heart racing at the same time! Its so gentle to smoke, and tastes great, a little minty, a hint of skunk and mostly a citrus lemon appeal to her, which leaves a nice tingly buzz on your tongue and not long before you find yourself snuggling into the couch at 11 am.... and 2 pm.... and 7........ She may not look like the ripest plant, but i'm glad i focussed on her lower nodes on the colas as Jack always seems to ripen from the bottom of the flowers up... strangely like alot of other indica grown plants. A few flowers have gone elsewhere to other bongs here and there, and the feedback is just what i expected great taste, awesome to vape!

There is alot to be researched on given strains and their harvest times, and Everyone ofcourse is going to be different and harvest at different times, i know all to well how easy it is to snip a few colas early, eagerly awaiting their ripeness stage each grow Its great to get others opinions to help push that bit longer especially when that small side of us says, this is soo baaaaad, soo naughty, its an unwanted and unnecessary stress . You know what? Thats propaganda, and government bulldust. Its a plant, and i'm pretty sure its out given right to do and put whatever we want into out bodies, ESPECIALLY when they cannot find a single thing remotely wrong with the substance! I can't wait for 'The culture high' ( The union 2 ) I'm going to make sure every family member gets a dvd in their letterbox.

Get high everyone!!!

Lets see that again

Breathtaking Flow, by far some of best pics I've seen thus far and what a yield!

flowamasta said:

lol cheerz again Easty! she sure is a sight for sore eyes

I hear you on the outdoor, i knew there was a fair bit, and i try not to get too excited, but having around 300 grams in just the colas, actually i shouldn't forget the other bunch of colas i took off just a few days ago, so around 700-800 grams in total.... WAAAAAAAY more than i first had anticipated, and if i didn't have such a laid back attitude i don't think i'd have the balls to have this in my backyard! even now with what's left on her, she stinks even worse, she has that over-ripe sour smell but still completely enjoyable for nighttime mess ups, or those times when you just want 1 and pass out. I think with the outdoors maturity ( not the actual ripeness in general ) her actually given age overall has somehow changed the characteristics of her buzz. Its out there! believe us when i say it batters your mind, and gets your heart racing at the same time! Its so gentle to smoke, and tastes great, a little minty, a hint of skunk and mostly a citrus lemon appeal to her, which leaves a nice tingly buzz on your tongue and not long before you find yourself snuggling into the couch at 11 am.... and 2 pm.... and 7........ She may not look like the ripest plant, but i'm glad i focussed on her lower nodes on the colas as Jack always seems to ripen from the bottom of the flowers up... strangely like alot of other indica grown plants. A few flowers have gone elsewhere to other bongs here and there, and the feedback is just what i expected great taste, awesome to vape!

There is alot to be researched on given strains and their harvest times, and Everyone ofcourse is going to be different and harvest at different times, i know all to well how easy it is to snip a few colas early, eagerly awaiting their ripeness stage each grow Its great to get others opinions to help push that bit longer especially when that small side of us says, this is soo baaaaad, soo naughty, its an unwanted and unnecessary stress . You know what? Thats propaganda, and government bulldust. Its a plant, and i'm pretty sure its out given right to do and put whatever we want into out bodies, ESPECIALLY when they cannot find a single thing remotely wrong with the substance! I can't wait for 'The culture high' ( The union 2 ) I'm going to make sure every family member gets a dvd in their letterbox.

Get high everyone!!!

Lets see that again

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She definitely ended up a lot bigger than I expected too man, 800g is a lot off one plant ...in a pot I'm thinking my sugar haze will go close to 350g too which i wasnt expecting either, she is really packing on the beef now

You must be getting over the smell too by now hey, it's a lot to try and keep under wraps hahaha. Nice work though man, you have a serious green thumb and its awesome to watch!!

Wow read every single fucking page man.....lol. I am using Fox Farm Happy Frog Organic Potting Soil and I added 1 cup blood meal 1 cup bone meal 1 cup kelp meal and 1 cup horse manure to the 5 gal pot with 4 gal of Happy Frog. This is just the mix I use for the autos, however I am going to try it out on my two boss hoggs and if they start to get deficiencies later on in veg I will just add some liquid nutes to them

At first I didnt realize why you would only use perlite, but I then saw you were growing Hydro and using a bunch of liquid nutes lol, ill try this next time around with the claber oasis.

Unbelievable colas btw bro those are massive.

Hey Flowa, here is a pic of my girl at day 15 of flower. She really filled out that screen quickly and has stretched a bit too much for my liking, note for next time to not veg as long and tie it out heaps better and more structured. Other than that she's going so well The pic is no where near as good as yours, you got your shit goin on

EasyPound said:

Breathtaking Flow, by far some of best pics I've seen thus far and what a yield!

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thanx easy! yeah i still haven't come to terms with it! still gotta hack the rest of the bush up today! I want to see the roots on her and salvage her trunk ( memento )
I think my camera is having minor issues now and then though... i may have to upgrade to the Samsung 18mp ..... hmmmmm got me thinking

eastcoastmo said:

She definitely ended up a lot bigger than I expected too man, 800g is a lot off one plant ...in a pot I'm thinking my sugar haze will go close to 350g too which i wasnt expecting either, she is really packing on the beef now

You must be getting over the smell too by now hey, it's a lot to try and keep under wraps hahaha. Nice work though man, you have a serious green thumb and its awesome to watch!!

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It is alot, i'm sick of manicuring, and to be honest i'm getting used to the fact my house reeks like weed! I have been constantly pulling loads of the outdoor, i think i've taken around 4 loads of 1 nice big basket worth to take in and hang up nearly running out of room each time!, there is still alot to take off today, even the small nugs seem to be a nice 4-5 gram each when dry. I'm shocked. I don't even look at the stuff i'm taking off now, it just gets hung straight up after i've pulled the fan leaves off and i turn the insect zapper on and i walk out lol! i will just slowly trim away now and then probably the rest of it when its dry! my hand keeps cramping up, time for some new scissors. So the smell is still going strong, more so now with the extra ripeness, some half drying, some curing, some getting smoked, PLUS i made Ganja butter in a crock pot 2 nights ago and it's had 3 washes so far to get rid of the chlorophyl and other crud.... nearly perfect now, still a VERY dark butter a nice army green at the moment going to a nice grey-ish brown. Smells.... i really hope the neighbours don't mind lol!

eastcoastmo said:

Hey Flowa, here is a pic of my girl at day 15 of flower. She really filled out that screen quickly and has stretched a bit too much for my liking, note for next time to not veg as long and tie it out heaps better and more structured. Other than that she's going so well The pic is no where near as good as yours, you got your shit goin on

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Hey man! Just zipped her from your thread looking like you're getting the hang of the ol' perlite , I see buds in your future very soon

Hey cheerz guys for all the feedback! I know its only day 36 for the indoor, BUT HOW CAN HER COLAS BE 6 INCHES ROUND AT THEIR BASE?? AND SOLID? If you ask me i think some ganja god has come down and blessed my hands and given me the magic to grow this special beast so i can slowly sip... sorry rub... drink.... sniff.... and get the most out of her, she will be indeed medicine like i swear i got high just inhaling her scent from the tip of her closest cola! My nose accidentally brushing past her whist pistils which even them have been coated in greasy resin after squeezing out of the resin coated calyxes. Resin has nowhere to hide now, but how can she be browning up already!? day 36? i checked right. I'm a little worried about her density!!! i may crank the fans up underneath i think.

I still got all my hydro gear just don't have the heart to run it anymore but everyone got something that works for them and you sir got your shit dialed in i be around

Mo, You gotta check with Flowa on this since your running a replica of his setup, but to me looks like your girl could use a little less PPM and less frequent feedings, Whats the PH?. Definately NOT trying to break your balls I just want the best buds for every one and thats what my eyes see... other than that your girl is definitely getting her legs! Cant wait to see what she does in that new system.

Flowa, I was wondering what kinda issues you were having with your camera? The reason why I ask is that I am SERIOUSLY considering picking one up, but after I did some research it seems as though that particular model tends to freeze or crash when uploading, although there are a TON of great reviews as well and I know youve had success in the past. Im just on the fence and would appreciate a review from someone other than joe blow on amazon. Thanks dude-S0uP

Mine did great until I filled the screen and then something went wrong when I went in to flower. Ultimately the roots got rot and the my first hydro grow was a fail. My next one using the Masta's methods and some tweaks of my own should do a much better job

flowamasta said:

thanx easy! yeah i still haven't come to terms with it! still gotta hack the rest of the bush up today! I want to see the roots on her and salvage her trunk ( memento )
I think my camera is having minor issues now and then though... i may have to upgrade to the Samsung 18mp ..... hmmmmm got me thinking


It is alot, i'm sick of manicuring, and to be honest i'm getting used to the fact my house reeks like weed! I have been constantly pulling loads of the outdoor, i think i've taken around 4 loads of 1 nice big basket worth to take in and hang up nearly running out of room each time!, there is still alot to take off today, even the small nugs seem to be a nice 4-5 gram each when dry. I'm shocked. I don't even look at the stuff i'm taking off now, it just gets hung straight up after i've pulled the fan leaves off and i turn the insect zapper on and i walk out lol! i will just slowly trim away now and then probably the rest of it when its dry! my hand keeps cramping up, time for some new scissors. So the smell is still going strong, more so now with the extra ripeness, some half drying, some curing, some getting smoked, PLUS i made Ganja butter in a crock pot 2 nights ago and it's had 3 washes so far to get rid of the chlorophyl and other crud.... nearly perfect now, still a VERY dark butter a nice army green at the moment going to a nice grey-ish brown. Smells.... i really hope the neighbours don't mind lol!



Hey man! Just zipped her from your thread looking like you're getting the hang of the ol' perlite , I see buds in your future very soon

Hey cheerz guys for all the feedback! I know its only day 36 for the indoor, BUT HOW CAN HER COLAS BE 6 INCHES ROUND AT THEIR BASE?? AND SOLID? If you ask me i think some ganja god has come down and blessed my hands and given me the magic to grow this special beast so i can slowly sip... sorry rub... drink.... sniff.... and get the most out of her, she will be indeed medicine like i swear i got high just inhaling her scent from the tip of her closest cola! My nose accidentally brushing past her whist pistils which even them have been coated in greasy resin after squeezing out of the resin coated calyxes. Resin has nowhere to hide now, but how can she be browning up already!? day 36? i checked right. I'm a little worried about her density!!! i may crank the fans up underneath i think.

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ha ha NICE ONE BRUVVA! I said NICE BRUV! Sounds like you got an absolute shit load out of your outdoor man, mind blowing

And thank you mind sir, looking forward to some buds in the near future

You've got yourself a real winner with your indoor too mate, i hope you got a clone off her before putting her to flower??

Oo S0uP oO said:

Mo, You gotta check with Flowa on this since your running a replica of his setup, but to me looks like your girl could use a little less PPM and less frequent feedings, Whats the PH?. Definately NOT trying to break your balls I just want the best buds for every one and thats what my eyes see... other than that your girl is definitely getting her legs! Cant wait to see what she does in that new system.

Flowa, I was wondering what kinda issues you were having with your camera? The reason why I ask is that I am SERIOUSLY considering picking one up, but after I did some research it seems as though that particular model tends to freeze or crash when uploading, although there are a TON of great reviews as well and I know youve had success in the past. Im just on the fence and would appreciate a review from someone other than joe blow on amazon. Thanks dude-S0uP

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Hey Soup, did you mean me??

If so, my current watering schedule is every 4 hours for 20mins during lights on and only once for 15mins during lights out half way through the dark cycle. PH i try and keep to 6 but it keeps buffering to 6.4. Im adjusting it each day back to 6. You think i should be watering less? I could always knock back to 15min feeds. I checked the perlite the other day and it was dry down to about 1/2 and inch so assumed it was drying enough...

Ya Easty looks to me like youve got some droopage on your lower sets and the beginning looks of some clawing at the tops? Someone else may disagree? If those pics are taken during the dark period or slightly after AND your flooding during that stage it makes a bit of sense in the fact that shes not up taking anything with the lights off. I dont know bro, Flowa chime in here am I goin nutz... I mean MORE than usual? -S0uP

Ah ok i get what you mean now hey. I might stop the feed during dark and let her just soak up whats in there before lights on! Good pick up man and cheers for letting me know. I can also see the clawing you're talking about

edit- sorry Flowa, just realised this was in your thread and not mine!! Apologies mate

Christina594 said:

I still got all my hydro gear just don't have the heart to run it anymore but everyone got something that works for them and you sir got your shit dialed in i be around

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Set it up You ill be glad you did. A flowa setup might interest you

Oo S0uP oO said:

Mo, You gotta check with Flowa on this since your running a replica of his setup, but to me looks like your girl could use a little less PPM and less frequent feedings, Whats the PH?. Definately NOT trying to break your balls I just want the best buds for every one and thats what my eyes see... other than that your girl is definitely getting her legs! Cant wait to see what she does in that new system.

Flowa, I was wondering what kinda issues you were having with your camera? The reason why I ask is that I am SERIOUSLY considering picking one up, but after I did some research it seems as though that particular model tends to freeze or crash when uploading, although there are a TON of great reviews as well and I know youve had success in the past. Im just on the fence and would appreciate a review from someone other than joe blow on amazon. Thanks dude-S0uP

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I wasn't having really bad issues, just once out of a hundred or so times, it freezes. No biggie i just pop the battery out and back in, turn it on and shes good to go. It apparently happens due to limited processing power, which in no way affects clarity performance just speed of which the next photo can be taken. Trying to do something on the camera while its already trying to load to do something else..... a little impatience can make me press a button again
All in all, i'm not fussed if i dont find a new one to upgrade, its a brilliant camera and really easy to use and takes awesome shots as long as you learn how to use the 'manual' mode or use the 'program your own function.'

eastcoastmo said:

ha ha NICE ONE BRUVVA! I said NICE BRUV! Sounds like you got an absolute shit load out of your outdoor man, mind blowing

And thank you mind sir, looking forward to some buds in the near future

You've got yourself a real winner with your indoor too mate, i hope you got a clone off her before putting her to flower??

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i'm sorting the outdoor like a small factory lol it feels a little that way, i was going to finish chopping the plant today but only got through half!! it stretched the length of the laundry in crowns lol, it always looks bigger when you bring it in!! DAMN IT!

You bet i got a clone she's 5 weeks and 5 days old

eastcoastmo said:

Hey Soup, did you mean me??

If so, my current watering schedule is every 4 hours for 20mins during lights on and only once for 15mins during lights out half way through the dark cycle. PH i try and keep to 6 but it keeps buffering to 6.4. Im adjusting it each day back to 6. You think i should be watering less? I could always knock back to 15min feeds. I checked the perlite the other day and it was dry down to about 1/2 and inch so assumed it was drying enough...

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eastcoastmo said:

Ah ok i get what you mean now hey. I might stop the feed during dark and let her just soak up whats in there before lights on! Good pick up man and cheers for letting me know. I can also see the clawing you're talking about

edit- sorry Flowa, just realised this was in your thread and not mine!! Apologies mate

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I would try to even your feeds out even during the lights off if you are having fluctuations..... and perhaps the reason your ph is going up could be you aren't topping up with enough bloom try topping up with 20-30ml half way through the week, and bump the base up a bit more including the silica. Silica is vitally important. Silica will make the ph go up, bloom will make the ph go down.... to a point. The neutral salts in bloom will dissolve the silica IF the silica has been mixed in properly. Silica will also help rid of systemic diseases, think of it as liquid diatomaceous earth. ( synthetic though! ) Bugz do not like the silica at all, and if you're using enough you will see healthier plants.

Hey Flowa Thanks so much for the response.

Going to duplicate your setup very, very soon but I want to make sure I have the feeding schedule correct.

I understand your system is complicated and reading the plant is important with understanding climate/air movement/genetics and more.
I read the entire thread and took notes, they read as follows with questions throughout.

When you are sober (preferably) can you please answer a few questions and correct where I’m wrong. This will clarify for everyone. I can post a grow log myself to help others if things go well. (Running CO2, should be interesting with this setup)

Thanks so much in advance.

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Clone (or seed) in Rockwool which is then placed in perlite and hydroton, feeding daily or when needed, lifting roots out of perlite often for easy transplant later. But what is the nut schedule during this early stage?

Throughout grow you flush twice (by filling bucket and draining) on every seventh day with fresh water. Then clean rez tank, tubing and bottom of inside pot?

Vegetative Phase (Ph 5 to 6.5 starting at 5 which naturally increases to 6.5 towards the end of the week)
Nutrients from CycoFlower (ml per Liter)
Floralicious - .25ml
Grow A - 2ml
Grow B - 2ml
Silica - 1ml
Dr. Repair - 1ml to 2ml as needed
B 1 Boost - 1ml
Week 3 add XL which will drop Ph to around 3 and should buffer to 5 (Use Ph up if needed).
As water dissipates throughout week, top up with tap water or R.O water? Should it be Ph’d to 5 or left at the 8 or so it is?

Bloom (Ph 5 to 6.5, top up with tap water and 1ml suga rush as needed [and with Bloom A+B and Silica if desired?])
No Florilicious?
No XL?
No B1 Boost?
Potash - 1ml
Bloom A – 3ml
Bloom B – 3ml
Silica – 1ml
Fungarid as needed? 2ml I would guess?
Dr. Repair – 1ml - 2ml (non after week 3 of bloom)
Suga Rush – 1ml
PGR part B 1ml for 5 days during week 2 or 3? of bloom? When do you add PGR part A and how much?

Week 5 (Swell Phase) Ph 6.2 at beginning of week not the usual 5 ish?
Flush three times prior to starting Phase
Bloom A+B 2ml each
Silica 2ml
Swell 2ml
Suga rush 2.5ml
Cut Bloom A+B in half (to 1ml) one or two weeks later? Then drop Swell and silica in half? after that, I’m confused here?

Flush (5-7 days with R.O water) if Ph gets too high (leaves burn) buffer with bloom A+B and Suga rush

Notes
*Trimming smaller branches, topping, LSTing and placement in SCROG are key components to this technique.
*When flushing, clean rez tank, lines, and water filter, change air stone as needed.
*Dry in 21c room, fans blowing below buds, 65% humidity?

EDIT: The following attachment helps me understand your feeding schedule for PGR A and B.

damiana said:

Hey Flowa Thanks so much for the response.

Going to duplicate your setup very, very soon but I want to make sure I have the feeding schedule correct.

I understand your system is complicated and reading the plant is important with understanding climate/air movement/genetics and more.
I read the entire thread and took notes, they read as follows with questions throughout.

When you are sober (preferably) can you please answer a few questions and correct where I’m wrong. This will clarify for everyone. I can post a grow log myself to help others if things go well. (Running CO2, should be interesting with this setup)

Thanks so much in advance.

------------------------------------ Notes on FlowaMasta Tek -------------------------------------

Clone (or seed) in Rockwool which is then placed in perlite and hydroton, feeding daily or when needed, lifting roots out of perlite often for easy transplant later. But what is the nut schedule during this early stage?

Throughout grow you flush twice (by filling bucket and draining) on every seventh day with fresh water. Then clean rez tank, tubing and bottom of inside pot?

Vegetative Phase (Ph 5 to 6.5 starting at 5 which naturally increases to 6.5 towards the end of the week)
Nutrients from CycoFlower (ml per Liter)
Floralicious - .25ml
Grow A - 2ml
Grow B - 2ml
Silica - 1ml
Dr. Repair - 1ml to 2ml as needed
B 1 Boost - 1ml
Week 3 add XL which will drop Ph to around 3 and should buffer to 5 (Use Ph up if needed).
As water dissipates throughout week, top up with tap water or R.O water? Should it be Ph’d to 5 or left at the 8 or so it is?

Bloom (Ph 5 to 6.5, top up with tap water and 1ml suga rush as needed [and with Bloom A+B and Silica if desired?])
No Florilicious?
No XL?
No B1 Boost?
Potash - 1ml
Bloom A – 3ml
Bloom B – 3ml
Silica – 1ml
Fungarid as needed? 2ml I would guess?
Dr. Repair – 1ml - 2ml (non after week 3 of bloom)
Suga Rush – 1ml
PGR part B 1ml for 5 days during week 2 or 3? of bloom? When do you add PGR part A and how much?

Week 5 (Swell Phase) Ph 6.2 at beginning of week not the usual 5 ish?
Flush three times prior to starting Phase
Bloom A+B 2ml each
Silica 2ml
Swell 2ml
Suga rush 2.5ml
Cut Bloom A+B in half (to 1ml) one or two weeks later? Then drop Swell and silica in half? after that, I’m confused here?

Flush (5-7 days with R.O water) if Ph gets too high (leaves burn) buffer with bloom A+B and Suga rush

Notes
*Trimming smaller branches, topping, LSTing and placement in SCROG are key components to this technique.
*When flushing, clean rez tank, lines, and water filter, change air stone as needed.
*Dry in 21c room, fans blowing below buds, 65% humidity?

EDIT: The following attachment helps me understand your feeding schedule for PGR A and B.

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WOW detailed reply! i'll do my best as i'm always high, i really am!

I'll start with the early stage as a clone in a small tub. I use the same method of flow thru design with a separater plate so the roots dont stay in gross water. But i only feed ONCE per day, as the perlite/hydroton mix stays wet for around 24 hours in regular ambient temp, i only feed with a small amount of base Grow A+B and a dash of vitamin B1 Boost or Dr. repair when needed, every plant will be different especially according to climate/environment.

When i flush I scrub the tub and flush all the tubing, i always allow for extra length as each time i clean it out it will have a stretched end that will need snipping back so it fits tight over the joiners. There is no need to clean out or interupt the plant or their roots at all in this method other than maybe turning the plant during vegetive stage. The inside tub gets a little dirty, but only from iron deposits, and other insolubles. These serve no purpose and pose no threat as long as you weekly flush. Bad bacteria starts to grow around the 5th-6th day, easier to maintain within that small guideline or it can become difficult/impossible to manage.

During vegetive stage in week 3 when XL is applied, this is applied with all the nutrient blend, but i keep it basic with only bloom A+B silica and potash. much easier to maintain, and hugely rewarding.

DO NOT go by that chart for PGR feeding, MOST strains will not handle near that amount. That amount is only there for commercial crop usage, for softwood plants i would cut that and only use 1/3 of the given recommended. It doesn't take much to work at all. They just want your $80 per bottle. The more you use, the lower grade cannabis in that it gets to dense to breathe or grow as it naturally should. I wish the owner never put that up as its ruined a GREAT deal of erb in these parts of the world. BUT ONLY because its used wrong, its a superior product at best both PGR A+B ( never c!!! ) used properly, and studied first, and knowing the dangers and taking precautions like wearing gloves and a mask and glasses in case of spillage. VERY dangerous substances, its basically hormones introduced to the plant at the right time, so they can do what they are supposed to do, but faster to produce their own natural hormones, a jump start can be beneficial to alot of strains including most sativas.

Here is a nutrient uptake chart it will help you understand why you want your levels to be as such.. You can see why i bump the ph up slightly during week 5 flowering, to around 6ish, as it takes on maximum phosphorous, potassium and magnesium, and also the ideal levels to maintain good iron and molybdenum levels. Calcium will not be required during the end stages in my opinion anyway as the plant is uptaking its own food sources, you just need to increase its uptake. ( by maintaining a consistent ideal ph level. ) and feeding the correct levels at the right times. Reading plants takes time, and lots of trial and error, i'm still finding out and learning new things as the weather is always changing, but noting each effect can help gather viable information and help the next time, maybe the following year.



I always say keep it around 6, and your hydro plants will love you!!! But NEVER think they need more than recommended without trialing and testing first and slowly adding more. Its hard to go back from too much, it can delay things by even a week, I veg for 4 so every day counts

let me know if i missed anything!!

flowamasta said:

Set it up You ill be glad you did. A flowa setup might interest you



I wasn't having really bad issues, just once out of a hundred or so times, it freezes. No biggie i just pop the battery out and back in, turn it on and shes good to go. It apparently happens due to limited processing power, which in no way affects clarity performance just speed of which the next photo can be taken. Trying to do something on the camera while its already trying to load to do something else..... a little impatience can make me press a button again
All in all, i'm not fussed if i dont find a new one to upgrade, its a brilliant camera and really easy to use and takes awesome shots as long as you learn how to use the 'manual' mode or use the 'program your own function.'



i'm sorting the outdoor like a small factory lol it feels a little that way, i was going to finish chopping the plant today but only got through half!! it stretched the length of the laundry in crowns lol, it always looks bigger when you bring it in!! DAMN IT!

You bet i got a clone she's 5 weeks and 5 days old





I would try to even your feeds out even during the lights off if you are having fluctuations..... and perhaps the reason your ph is going up could be you aren't topping up with enough bloom try topping up with 20-30ml half way through the week, and bump the base up a bit more including the silica. Silica is vitally important. Silica will make the ph go up, bloom will make the ph go down.... to a point. The neutral salts in bloom will dissolve the silica IF the silica has been mixed in properly. Silica will also help rid of systemic diseases, think of it as liquid diatomaceous earth. ( synthetic though! ) Bugz do not like the silica at all, and if you're using enough you will see healthier plants.

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Hahaha Flowas green factory lol, you must be over chopping and trimming by now lol

Thanks again for your advice dude, im going to do a flush this morning and do what you said in my thread. I'll also knock the feeds up to 3hrs during lights on and 4hrs during lights off, hopefully that should work. I'll also top up my res with base bloom during the week. Only reason i hadnt to date is because the ppm and EC has stayed the same through out the week so didn't think it needed it!

Good to hear you got a clone of your amster gold too bro, are you going to try and scrog it this time and see how she goes with that??

Awesome, just six more questions before I begin my grow.

When you say you top up with fresh water, is this tap water or RO water and is it Ph'd (I'm assuming no)?

If no, how to maintain 6 Ph in rez?

When I add all the nutes before a new week of feeding the Ph should read 5.8? or 5 (given it will rise to 5.8 ish soon with fresh water additions and chemical reactions)?

How much XL do you put in during week 3 of Veg (.5ml?)?

After week 5 of Bloom, during week 6 and 7, what is the nut schedule? Drop Bloom A+B, Swell, Silica in half each week? Continue with Suga rush through out flush (week 8-9)?

Thanks, Growing from Seed, Day one is today!!!

Hey man, i did the flush this morning and when i refilled the res i put the silica in first and then added another lot of water. Then added the potash, sugar rush and dr repair in the next lot of water, then added full strength nutes to the last lot of water. So all up 30L of water in 3 lots. I just checked the pH and its sitting on 6.6, should i leave it for a few hours and see if it buffers any lower or should i add some pH down now? I didnt add any B1 Boost or floralicious.
Cheers brother and sorry for all the questions and shit, i know you're a busy man

oh yeah and i now have my system watering every 3 hours during lights on and every 4 hours during lights off for 15mins each time...