FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

Rastapher

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I chose floralicious as my humic acid..... Uptake is watered down and more suitable for aero ponics.
Floralicious is thick, gloopy and pure. only 10 ml to my 45 litre res!!


  1. An understanding of the role humic acid plays in soil conditioning and plant ... for enhanced water penetration and better root zone growth and development.
    Copy paste :p
Tanks mi bredrin! Farmer....... Cultivator........ Walk good...

"Dem waan fi fight di weed
Everyday dem try fi kill the breed......
An look cowhard we haffi work pon da seed.....
And plant it up all world cauz a dat we need....
Mi smoke it til mi eyes dem bleed...
When yuh smoke it a lead yuh a..."
 

dapio

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Flow I noticed some but not all of your colas drying had fan leaves left on them. Is this personal preference? Does the humidity become a problem if everything has leaves bunched together?


So basically you run a continuous drip that drains back into the res? What kind of pump are you using, drip line size etc... And do you just put grommets in the holes to stop water leaks? I setup my first drip feed coco out of home depot drip line, and now everyone's choice of fittings and reservoirs interests me.
 

flowamasta

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Tanks mi bredrin! Farmer....... Cultivator........ Walk good...

"Dem waan fi fight di weed
Everyday dem try fi kill the breed......
An look cowhard we haffi work pon da seed.....
And plant it up all world cauz a dat we need....
Mi smoke it til mi eyes dem bleed...
When yuh smoke it a lead yuh a..."
Ha Thanx! ...... I think?!

So what is the final dry weight? :)
Unfortunately i didn't allow for the loss in weight you get for harvesting slightly early... and that factor being multiplied ofcourse by the sheer size of the plant. Literally hours can probably mean grams of weight lol!! ok enough excuses lol, i'm not sure if i've even said yet! been massively out of it hehe...

around 550 grams a shade over given i took a few samples to start with. Not a huge loss, but not a gain either! but i'm happy, and the ripe flowers are absolutely beautiful!! Not immature by any means, but the calyxs could of swollen alot more over the next 3-4 days i think. But potency is Craaaaaaaaaazy!!!!! 1 Hit and i'm coughing my ring gear as soon as that stuff expands the lungs! very powerful, instant hit that i feel goes straight to my eyes! immediately!! the taste of an unknown fruity blend, almost a fruity orangy lemony flavour, and when i say flavour.... I MEAN FLAVOUR. This stuff has ponged out the house profusely and I did get a few call backs from mates telling me how much it lit their car with perfumes like a fresh air freshener that you'd get at the car wash bay!! People come sniffing your way as soon as you pop the lid lol.

Sooo funky and fruity :)

Flow I noticed some but not all of your colas drying had fan leaves left on them. Is this personal preference? Does the humidity become a problem if everything has leaves bunched together?


So basically you run a continuous drip that drains back into the res? What kind of pump are you using, drip line size etc... And do you just put grommets in the holes to stop water leaks? I setup my first drip feed coco out of home depot drip line, and now everyone's choice of fittings and reservoirs interests me.
First off, You are half correct as to why some have leaves left on ;) 1. to keep them as my favourites and fresher for longer, even though they are quite big, humidity is rarely a problem in this room unless the hydro is going. i remove all water and plant stuff, empty the room out and air it while the carbon filters both run and the humid air is pulled out of the room with the ducted and filtered air. 2. I was tired, sore back.... TERRIBLY sore back, i could not for the life of me find a comfortable position to trim in so i spread it out over 3 or 5 days, something like that. It all got chopped and sized accordingly... and meticulously :p the lighter stuff only going in the net so it doesn't get squashed. I keep it bunched close togther in the net so it dries slowly. The big stuff eventually gets closer and closer until its semi crispy with the only moisture in there is in the stem so then i can start to cure.
I don't use the PGR's to tighten my buds up like rocks, i only use them to control height and induce flowering a little quicker if needed. So even my biggest buds never EVER get mould, and i truly think the hanging drying works best for the bigger colas, and drying them enough before putting them away!!! I always snip a few of the biggest colas down and check inside to make sure there is no mould or surprises. Not once Yet. I keep the air fresh in the room while drying, total darkness for protection of trichomes. I believe they will degrade much faster as they do react to any light source, even after being chopped. I have read research now, fairly new and some people are actually drying their cannabis under the mild exposure of UVB light from a slightly further distance with a fan circulating the room air, not on the buds themselves. SOUNDS INTERESTINH HUH!? save all that electricity and use the UVB at the end?? maybe once the chemical reaction has taken place from the Ultra violet the chemical change takes place quickly and changes the way the trichomes 'cure' As they hold moisture longer and much past the actualy dry time.
 

eastcoastmo

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Well done brother, another stellar effort, thats still about 20 big fat oscars there :clap: :clap:

That's very interesting about the UV during drying process, would you still run it during flower and then drying as well? Cos i'd imagine the UV would increase the resin production initially, but then enhance it while its drying....hmm got me thinking :) Man i wish i lived closer just so i could smell that aroma!! Sounds absolutely delightful :D
 

Rastapher

Member
Well done brother, another stellar effort, thats still about 20 big fat oscars there :clap: :clap:

That's very interesting about the UV during drying process, would you still run it during flower and then drying as well? Cos i'd imagine the UV would increase the resin production initially, but then enhance it while its drying....hmm got me thinking :) Man i wish i lived closer just so i could smell that aroma!! Sounds absolutely delightful :D
Ok... Nice....

On a hydro ebb and flow, how many cycles a day should I feed? They say 3-4... I'm doing 4.
 
I am prett new here flowmasta, and I was wondering why you flower the plant for a couple days in the middle of the veg to stimulate the nodes, and then swithc back to veg?
 

eastcoastmo

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Ok... Nice....

On a hydro ebb and flow, how many cycles a day should I feed? They say 3-4... I'm doing 4.
Really depends on how much your plants are uptaking, all strains are different. Flowa feeds every 3 hours during lights on and every 4 during lights out from memory...so that works out to 7 feeds in a 24hr period.
 

flowamasta

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Ok... Nice....

On a hydro ebb and flow, how many cycles a day should I feed? They say 3-4... I'm doing 4.
I'm not really informative with ebb and flo, i'll do some research eventually, but for my system that is entirely different. sorry mate!?

I am prett new here flowmasta, and I was wondering why you flower the plant for a couple days in the middle of the veg to stimulate the nodes, and then swithc back to veg?
I actually vegged under a small fluro light and just before putting her in the tent, she had a couple of dark periods too long so she got a bit confused, and vegged a bit unco... It did work out in the end, but not QUITE how i'd hoped, i like my Colas a bit bigger. I'm going back to 130 gram colas all over the top again, a bit less topping and let a few go hard in the middle but keep them low. I'm going to calculate some options soon, the next grow will be somewhat more thought out.

It is a good idea under the right circumstances to flower early and go back to veg, the nodes will be more consistent over the plant, but you will need to thin areas out more to create an even flow and allow some light to get under to the lower parts of the plant. This grow was done a fair chunk different from aht i'm used to, and basically an experiment. I'm so glad the bud came out splendid. I'm baked as i ever could be and find myself smoking much less again!

Really depends on how much your plants are uptaking, all strains are different. Flowa feeds every 3 hours during lights on and every 4 during lights out from memory...so that works out to 7 feeds in a 24hr period.
Thanx man!! :) Been crook..... spot on :p with minor variations in climate conditions.... more hot., more often waterings, colder temps less often but still maintain a consistent rate to stabilize the PH.
 

Bonsai

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Ha Thanx! ...... I think?!


Unfortunately i didn't allow for the loss in weight you get for harvesting slightly early... and that factor being multiplied ofcourse by the sheer size of the plant. Literally hours can probably mean grams of weight lol!! ok enough excuses lol, i'm not sure if i've even said yet! been massively out of it hehe...

around 550 grams a shade over given i took a few samples to start with. Not a huge loss, but not a gain either! but i'm happy, and the ripe flowers are absolutely beautiful!! Not immature by any means, but the calyxs could of swollen alot more over the next 3-4 days i think. But potency is Craaaaaaaaaazy!!!!! 1 Hit and i'm coughing my ring gear as soon as that stuff expands the lungs! very powerful, instant hit that i feel goes straight to my eyes! immediately!! the taste of an unknown fruity blend, almost a fruity orangy lemony flavour, and when i say flavour.... I MEAN FLAVOUR. This stuff has ponged out the house profusely and I did get a few call backs from mates telling me how much it lit their car with perfumes like a fresh air freshener that you'd get at the car wash bay!! People come sniffing your way as soon as you pop the lid lol.
I'm pretty sure you're the only one who is second guessing your grow techniques after pulling 550 grams off one plant :) It's done man! It's finally done, I've been a long for the ride since the start and jesus christ has this thread been popular. I find myself coming back every few days with a fucking book to read, a very informative book at that.

I hope this thread is kept for a long time as I'm sure I'll be reading over it several times when I try to mimic your entire grow. Thanks so much for all the information provided and enjoy your holiday :)

Also just a question in regards to lighting, sorry if you mentioned this in later posts that I may have missed. You stated earlier that once flowering you switch immediately to a red spec HPS then for the last 2-3 weeks switch back to your dual spec (depending on density) now I'm just wondering did you switch back to the dual spec or just keep the red HPS all the way through?
 

flowamasta

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I'm pretty sure you're the only one who is second guessing your grow techniques after pulling 550 grams off one plant :) It's done man! It's finally done, I've been a long for the ride since the start and jesus christ has this thread been popular. I find myself coming back every few days with a fucking book to read, a very informative book at that.

I hope this thread is kept for a long time as I'm sure I'll be reading over it several times when I try to mimic your entire grow. Thanks so much for all the information provided and enjoy your holiday :)

Also just a question in regards to lighting, sorry if you mentioned this in later posts that I may have missed. You stated earlier that once flowering you switch immediately to a red spec HPS then for the last 2-3 weeks switch back to your dual spec (depending on density) now I'm just wondering did you switch back to the dual spec or just keep the red HPS all the way through?
:) Much appreciated man! I know your right too, i guess i was just expecting just a bit more but things didn't quite go exactly to plan, have been quite unwell for most of the grow unfortunately, so when things had to be done they took alot more effort and it was hard to put ALL my heart into it, so i'm SUPER appreciative of everyones feedback and encouragement, aswell as my beautiful better half for helping when it was impossible for me alone. I swear she has magic hands and her hippie ways have a dramatic effect on the outcome i'm sure of. If something smells different or not quite right, honestly Ms Flowa would be the first to know or tell me i'm forgetting something.

I'll be sticking around don't worry ;) having a small break, let the outdoor do her thing, i Loooooooooooove my outdoor erb, even with the few mites you get along the way I just feel it has a different kick, but this will be the first time i have grown Jack x Skunk outdoors :) Gonna be a stinking dream, I KNOW IT!! JUST starting to shoot white pistils and i can smell her with the back door open. PUTRID. I'll be able to get a good 8 weeks minimum flowering as the inspection is so perfectly timed, well sort of LOL tomorrow morning i have to find a hiding spot, The land agent will smell it but won't see it. As usual hehe..... not much i can do really put it in the shed and i can smell it down the road with the humidity building up.!!

My lighting was swapped around as per usual, I initially started with the Redder HPS to get things growing faster and more stretchy, (not a stretchy strain but) and went to dual spec agro philips lamp which puts out an equal red but more in the Orange area, and an added Blue/purple and actually smack on the UV spectrum. But my clear glass will reduce some minor amounts of UVA, which is not really researched as much as UVB for plant growth... not to say it doesn't have some sort of an effect... There is only a few growers around using UVB additions also which i believe increase your trich production and molecular structuring. IT DOES change the look of your Colas. Guaranteed, i've done enough grows with and without to notice a HUGELY noticeable difference.
2-3 weeks is average
I don't agree with that, especially in a system such as this.... try 5-7 days and you will see little bunches of flower sites, about that time will tell you where they will grow and how they will lean. Pump the plant with the right amount of food, and hit her with the right amount of light, and THIS is a must i say, if you want your buds to appear more quickly, then rid the system of any 'GROW' nutrient. This will just hinder the effect and enhance the nitrogen levels in your medium./more leaf. Beef it up with some potassium and silica, hold off on any phos for the first few weeks otherwise premature flowering happens and you can end up with tiny brown 'seedy' like pot. Potassium is the food for the beginning of flowering, anything else is either useless or an additive. By that time you should of built the plant to be able to survive a mild drought, this way she will be starving for food, and when you give it, she will already be thinking she's coming into season with the instant change in chemical reaction. Most growers i have bumped into that have had tiny brown seeds in pot, is usually because there system is loaded with acidic salts, thus the plant tries to reproduce and throw some seeds in the mix all the while each individual white hair thats attached to a newborn calyx will continue to grow and mature, but hold a tiny crappy bad tasting seed, and some strains, or depending on nutrients and how they are used can determine how many calyxs there will be on the flowers, and if they all seed, well there goes your flavour. Alot of these growers will swear black and blue there is no seeds, until you mull a bud throw it in a cup of water, give it a stir to soak up the water, and the little brown seeds not more than 1 mm in length will be there for all to see floating on top. I've showed all to many. IF i ever get it.... i will photograph them ofcourse as they are small enough to miss but enough to change the entire batches flavour. The longer you flower with seeded calyxs, the worse the taste and energy goes to producing unlivable, and immature little brown seeds. I was always taught to never get eager and give more nutrients than the given sized plant can demolish through
 

flowamasta

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I absolutely love how informative this thread is. Mad respect bro.
Thanx Buz!! I really appreciate that! I really do try to give people what i know. It's only fair. If i can step up the games quality and yield numbers for even .01% of the growing population then that to me is a bonus :) My whole life has been revolved around logic and respect. Those who get help, help others, and the system continues in a positive way. When its the other way around it can complicate things or can twist things around to the point of 'everybody playing the guessing game' which i see everywhere in life, not just growing in general. Goto 2 different doctors and get 2 different verdicts or opinions.... i say researching is the key and positive points stand out far more then doing something half heartedly. I cut some corners here and there, but only where i can but i try to stick to my common plan..

I will be continuing RIU if any of you would like to follow i will be growing the same cut of the same plant from my indoor harvest which was put outside at the beginning of flowering the indoor. She has re-vegged, quadrupled in size and has over 40 tips. She will be a monster, for a rental property standard anyway!!! she has only JUST sprouted pistils so i will begin the new thread in the OUTDOOR section as day 1 flowering for the re-vegged Jack x Skunk. I will post a link a few times soon as she's uploaded. I will wait till tonight i think for current pics, the sun is just so bright it's hard to see her size and beauty. Weather is HOT, SUNNY and gonna Crank me some fat green leaves!!! If she stinks now.... i'm not looking forward to 6-7 weeks!!!!

a couple of pics to get you excited.

29th October, 2012... 3 weeks after putting her outside, she force flowered, but didn't finish.



here she was about 1 week or so ago. re-vegged, i hacked most of the bud growth of underneath, some had new top shoots long enough to continue, i'll watch closely, i have never re-vegged a plant before and managed to flower a 2nd generation out of it.



underneath....



the new flower tips beginning to stretch.

 

Shaggn

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I really do try to give people what i know. It's only fair. If i can step up the games quality and yield numbers for even .01% of the growing population then that to me is a bonus :)
Mad Props Flowamasta!!!!

As to your soon to be tree, n don't take it to heart. But have a fun time hiding that bitch!!! She is gonna get big :) As to any smell, Just tell the property manager or w/e, u ran a skunk over haha. Peace!!
 

eastcoastmo

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Thanx Buz!! I really appreciate that! I really do try to give people what i know. It's only fair. If i can step up the games quality and yield numbers for even .01% of the growing population then that to me is a bonus :) My whole life has been revolved around logic and respect. Those who get help, help others, and the system continues in a positive way. When its the other way around it can complicate things or can twist things around to the point of 'everybody playing the guessing game' which i see everywhere in life, not just growing in general. Goto 2 different doctors and get 2 different verdicts or opinions.... i say researching is the key and positive points stand out far more then doing something half heartedly. I cut some corners here and there, but only where i can but i try to stick to my common plan..

I will be continuing RIU if any of you would like to follow i will be growing the same cut of the same plant from my indoor harvest which was put outside at the beginning of flowering the indoor. She has re-vegged, quadrupled in size and has over 40 tips. She will be a monster, for a rental property standard anyway!!! she has only JUST sprouted pistils so i will begin the new thread in the OUTDOOR section as day 1 flowering for the re-vegged Jack x Skunk. I will post a link a few times soon as she's uploaded. I will wait till tonight i think for current pics, the sun is just so bright it's hard to see her size and beauty. Weather is HOT, SUNNY and gonna Crank me some fat green leaves!!! If she stinks now.... i'm not looking forward to 6-7 weeks!!!!

a couple of pics to get you excited.

29th October, 2012... 3 weeks after putting her outside, she force flowered, but didn't finish.



here she was about 1 week or so ago. re-vegged, i hacked most of the bud growth of underneath, some had new top shoots long enough to continue, i'll watch closely, i have never re-vegged a plant before and managed to flower a 2nd generation out of it.



underneath....



the new flower tips beginning to stretch.

holy shit dude she is MASSIVE! Haha. She revegged real nice and you're going to get a fair bit off her :D nice!!
 

dapio

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Flow how do you make those holes in the bottom of the res/main pot drill hole saw etc? And basically you put a grommet in there run line through and it doesn't leak? Are the lines 1/2” 3/8” etc also is the height of the holes precise or just fashioned towards the bottom?

I ask because i'm currently drip feeding coco and just am not impressed with my veg rate want to give this a go!
 

flowamasta

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Flow how do you make those holes in the bottom of the res/main pot drill hole saw etc? And basically you put a grommet in there run line through and it doesn't leak? Are the lines 1/2” 3/8” etc also is the height of the holes precise or just fashioned towards the bottom?

I ask because i'm currently drip feeding coco and just am not impressed with my veg rate want to give this a go!
yes a hole saw :) 19mm grommet for return. 14mm for feed line and you want the holes as low as they can go. the plastic might warp over time so think ahead and you will be fine :) the grommets house the correct plastic pipe joiner so it should a flood be tighter than your bong seal. Very difficult to remove is the key. hot water to set it on and then run cold through almost guarantees a safeguard from having a flood.

I'm thinking coco is your veg issue. It shouldn't be compared to perlite although similar in ways of moisture retention, perlite is a game changer. I've seen enough growers change to perlite and never say the word coco again ;)
 
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