FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

Oh nice bro, A2 size of those pics would be well wicked

Keen too see how your girl goes with what you're doing too, should be awesome to see!!

Hey Flowa-
I've been doing an all perlite grow modeled (mostly) after yours. I think I've been having a problem with Pythium, though. I follow your flushing advice, and I've been adding H2o2 at 1.7ml/L of 29% during flush to try and get the root zone clean. The Snot keeps coming back, even after dosing the rez every 2-3days. I'm pretty sure it's hiding in the root system but I can't verify that because they're in the Perlite.
So Here's my question:
Even though Perlite is Inert, will it still be able to harbor the microbes? Not necessarily "nurture", but harbor?
Have you had any problems with Root Rot? If so, what have been your measurements to eradicate/prevent? What worked/didn't work for the Perlite?
Thanks for your time, bro!

What temp are you running your res at mate? Most root rot wont grow from 21 degrees centigrade and below. I keep mine at 20-21 and never had an issue...

jazzyjsd18 said:

Hey Flowa-
I've been doing an all perlite grow modeled (mostly) after yours. I think I've been having a problem with Pythium, though. I follow your flushing advice, and I've been adding H2o2 at 1.7ml/L of 29% during flush to try and get the root zone clean. The Snot keeps coming back, even after dosing the rez every 2-3days. I'm pretty sure it's hiding in the root system but I can't verify that because they're in the Perlite.
So Here's my question:
Even though Perlite is Inert, will it still be able to harbor the microbes? Not necessarily "nurture", but harbor?
Have you had any problems with Root Rot? If so, what have been your measurements to eradicate/prevent? What worked/didn't work for the Perlite?
Thanks for your time, bro!

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Are you sure it not from old nutrient? There maybe bacteria growing which might feast on your beneficial bacteria perhaps..? Perlite is inert to chemicals, but like anything if you place bacteria in the right environment, it may flourish anywhere. I would try a fungarid application as i never have issues using this. As long as the plant is healthy enough, you may sustain some damage, but you should recover. A dose of Fungarid, and then an immediate flush in my opinion.

eastcoastmo said:

What temp are you running your res at mate? Most root rot wont grow from 21 degrees centigrade and below. I keep mine at 20-21 and never had an issue...

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Good info Easty

Hey guys-
Ill give ya some more stats.
I'm using Canna Aqua Vega- No organic adds.
H202 29% at 2ml/L dosing every 2-3 days
Res temp at 70F- 21.1 C ( lowering it this week. Most likely the culprit)
Flooming for DO
I've been Flushing weekly with ph'd water+h2o2
No signs of Overwatering or pH swings through the week.
It's a small amount of snot in my rez weekly, and some stank to the rez.I dont want it to get worse.
So, I'm feeling its holding in the roots/lines. I flood them when I flush... I installed a ball valve on my return lines, so I shut it and flood via Flowa's method.
I'm currently not running bennies in the mix, because I've been dosing h2o2 every few days ala Al B Fuct. I'm thinking of trying them out, but if I just lower my rez temp and keep dosing h2o2 I feel I shouldn't have a problem.
Are you running Bennies?
Also, I noticed you've been using foil over your pot now. What's that about?

After writing my last comment, I went to check on the plants...
Low and behold, there was snot clogging my sprayers on my FEED line. It's ridiculous how fast it's spread, considering I just checked it last night.
There is also a good amount in my return line as well.
So I drained the rez, shut the return line valve, and flooded the system with pH'd tap&H2o2. The buckets were SHAKING from the oxidation of the slime. It actually broke a (big) branch that was tied down. RIDICULOUS.
I took a sample of perlite from the top layer of the bucket, dropped it in a cap full of 29% Peroxide, and it fizzed.
Then, I took a sample of perlite from the bag of UNUSED perlite, and it fizzed as well... Maybe the perlite itself was infected when I bought it, and some survived through the rinse... Either way, I have a LONG Sunday of cleaning/ adjusting to do. Might as well call myself Captain Save-a-Hoe, because I'm going way far outta my way for these bitches haha
Fungarid (Fongarid??) isn't available to me locally. Ya think I should do a Heisenberg tea or something?
Sorry for the double long-ass-posts, btw.

hiya fLoWaMasTa!
thanks for the inspiration to draw this. I finally finished. can u help me think of a good title for it? I was thinkin
" Flowa Kaliedescope ".
cheers and kangaroo hugs!
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Hey Flowa,

Using UVB lights was an AMAZING idea. I really think it had a HUGE difference, and is possibly the one thing that sets me apart in Cali. The plants directly under the UVB bulbs generally came out more potent and with more shinny, sticky trichomes when compared to the plants farther from the bulbs; just an observation.

Thanks for the UVB info. Just a few pictures from my UVB, coco grow, my first grow ever actually. Really good buds!

I can't wait to see the end product from my new 'Flowa System' though. Two 10 gallon pots are flowering two massive plants, I'm starting week 3 today! Can't wait to see swell week 5. Awesome system man, thanks.





Damiana

Nice buds man dank as fuck they are!!

jazzyjsd18 said:

Hey guys-
Ill give ya some more stats.
I'm using Canna Aqua Vega- No organic adds.
H202 29% at 2ml/L dosing every 2-3 days
Res temp at 70F- 21.1 C ( lowering it this week. Most likely the culprit)
Flooming for DO
I've been Flushing weekly with ph'd water+h2o2
No signs of Overwatering or pH swings through the week.
It's a small amount of snot in my rez weekly, and some stank to the rez.I dont want it to get worse.
So, I'm feeling its holding in the roots/lines. I flood them when I flush... I installed a ball valve on my return lines, so I shut it and flood via Flowa's method.
I'm currently not running bennies in the mix, because I've been dosing h2o2 every few days ala Al B Fuct. I'm thinking of trying them out, but if I just lower my rez temp and keep dosing h2o2 I feel I shouldn't have a problem.
Are you running Bennies?
Also, I noticed you've been using foil over your pot now. What's that about?

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I'm really dumbfounded on this one!! I dont think the perlite was infected, but i could be wrong, try some sort of beneficial bacteria in my opinion

I covered the pot to prevent light growing algae on the surface of the pot. It helps sorry, not prevents...

jazzyjsd18 said:

After writing my last comment, I went to check on the plants...
Low and behold, there was snot clogging my sprayers on my FEED line. It's ridiculous how fast it's spread, considering I just checked it last night.
There is also a good amount in my return line as well.
So I drained the rez, shut the return line valve, and flooded the system with pH'd tap&H2o2. The buckets were SHAKING from the oxidation of the slime. It actually broke a (big) branch that was tied down. RIDICULOUS.
I took a sample of perlite from the top layer of the bucket, dropped it in a cap full of 29% Peroxide, and it fizzed.
Then, I took a sample of perlite from the bag of UNUSED perlite, and it fizzed as well... Maybe the perlite itself was infected when I bought it, and some survived through the rinse... Either way, I have a LONG Sunday of cleaning/ adjusting to do. Might as well call myself Captain Save-a-Hoe, because I'm going way far outta my way for these bitches haha
Fungarid (Fongarid??) isn't available to me locally. Ya think I should do a Heisenberg tea or something?
Sorry for the double long-ass-posts, btw.

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wow. I would say you have an excess of salts, and this may have cause an unusual outcome!!??
maybe someone else has something better to input, without pics its hard also.

Dr.Amber Trichome said:

hiya fLoWaMasTa!
thanks for the inspiration to draw this. I finally finished. can u help me think of a good title for it? I was thinkin
" Flowa Kaliedescope ".
cheers and kangaroo hugs!
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!! Wow!!! thats insanely awesome!! I'm speechless and honored!! wow!! !!!

damiana said:

Hey Flowa,

Using UVB lights was an AMAZING idea. I really think it had a HUGE difference, and is possibly the one thing that sets me apart in Cali. The plants directly under the UVB bulbs generally came out more potent and with more shinny, sticky trichomes when compared to the plants farther from the bulbs; just an observation.

Thanks for the UVB info. Just a few pictures from my UVB, coco grow, my first grow ever actually. Really good buds!

I can't wait to see the end product from my new 'Flowa System' though. Two 10 gallon pots are flowering two massive plants, I'm starting week 3 today! Can't wait to see swell week 5. Awesome system man, thanks.


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Damiana

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That looks like some great erb to me! especially for your first grow!!!
well done man, keep it up! welcome to the secret of UVB Lighting

I'll have my pics put up soon, day 27 on Gnine she's plump i must say.

Day 27 vegging for Gnine, and a couple of shots of the little Amster clone











She sure has grown fast. I could flip now and get an absolute monster, but you know how bills can get......... I'm going for a full tent

I flushed for 2 days now lmao
First with h2o2, then ph'd tap, and then dm zone.
I took all my liners out of my pots since the roots haven't grown through yet.
Washed EVERYTHING, and got my temps down a bit.
I'm pretty sure it was caused by the stagnant water at the bottom of the 2nd bucket, Infecting my return lines. I believe the feed lines harbored the pythium also, seeing as they're warm.
I'll brew a Heisenberg Tea in the future if it returns.
Any of you guys use Canon cameras?

hell yeah looking nice flow, this is one of my favorites spots to stop by and check out flows beast, alls i can say is fucking awesome flow

flowamasta said:

Day 27 vegging for Gnine, and a couple of shots of the little Amster

She sure has grown fast. I could flip now and get an absolute monster, but you know how bills can get......... I'm going for a full tent

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Bloody unreal bro, she is really taking off hey
Are you using the cyco XL this round? Im trying it out on the soil grown C99 ive got at my mates house, will let you know how it goes

Hey Flowa, ever seen a bud do this? This is Day 30 on my Bubba 76. This one is at the back of the tent so I missed it when she split, but the split isn't deep so it was fairly recently.

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jazzyjsd18 said:

I flushed for 2 days now lmao
First with h2o2, then ph'd tap, and then dm zone.
I took all my liners out of my pots since the roots haven't grown through yet.
Washed EVERYTHING, and got my temps down a bit.
I'm pretty sure it was caused by the stagnant water at the bottom of the 2nd bucket, Infecting my return lines. I believe the feed lines harbored the pythium also, seeing as they're warm.
I'll brew a Heisenberg Tea in the future if it returns.
Any of you guys use Canon cameras?

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stagnant water will do horrors good luck!

bigworm6969 said:

hell yeah looking nice flow, this is one of my favorites spots to stop by and check out flows beast, alls i can say is fucking awesome flow

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Thanx worm glad you're a regular! This Gnine should be special indeed. She's almost 1 foot from the glass at the moment!! reminding me to get some netting and some rockwool to do some magic.

eastcoastmo said:

Bloody unreal bro, she is really taking off hey
Are you using the cyco XL this round? Im trying it out on the soil grown C99 ive got at my mates house, will let you know how it goes

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She is and you bet! I JUST dosed her with XL last night, completely guessing the amount of PH up, and looks like i came off alright again She's growing a good 3-4 inches per day, i can't believe it.... Beautiful wide leaves, going to be some thick nug

Belle of Buds said:

Hey Flowa, ever seen a bud do this? This is Day 30 on my Bubba 76. This one is at the back of the tent so I missed it when she split, but the split isn't deep so it was fairly recently.

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Been a while since i've seen that! But yes i have, you may have knocked a tip while growing or she got disturbed somehow, but I've usually seen this later on in flowering! very strange, will look cool when she's dried and manicured! neat double header Going to be some awesome frosty stuff!

flowamasta said:

Been a while since i've seen that! But yes i have, you may have knocked a tip while growing or she got disturbed somehow, but I've usually seen this later on in flowering! very strange, will look cool when she's dried and manicured! neat double header Going to be some awesome frosty stuff!

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I'm excited to see what she's gonna look like over the next 30 days. This is Bubba 76 and the last time I grew it, she was ready in just at 8 weeks so I'm thinking 30 more days max. This strain is one of the absolute, hand's down, stinkiest skunky plants I've ever grown. I happen to like the smell of skunks (aminal and plant) and I'm in heaven right now with 9 of them in full bloom.

flowamasta said:

stagnant water will do horrors good luck!


Thanx worm glad you're a regular! This Gnine should be special indeed. She's almost 1 foot from the glass at the moment!! reminding me to get some netting and some rockwool to do some magic.


She is and you bet! I JUST dosed her with XL last night, completely guessing the amount of PH up, and looks like i came off alright again She's growing a good 3-4 inches per day, i can't believe it.... Beautiful wide leaves, going to be some thick nug


Been a while since i've seen that! But yes i have, you may have knocked a tip while growing or she got disturbed somehow, but I've usually seen this later on in flowering! very strange, will look cool when she's dried and manicured! neat double header Going to be some awesome frosty stuff!

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Nice man, watch her double in size over the next week hoping mine does the same lol

This is my homage to Flowamasta:



I tried to copy the basic design of your system, Flowa. 2 buckets on top, nested together with holes drilled in their bottoms and the top one lined with a paint strainer bag, filled with coarse Perlite. Underneath them is the res, that grey plastic pan, which holds 5 gallons. So far the plant looks healthy after transplanting it from DWC yesterday. It's a strain called "Critical Kush" by Barney's Farm seed co.

I know I won't get 2 pounds from this plant, but I'll be happy with a couple ounces or so, given the other limitations in my cabinet. Thanks to you for your journal and all your helpful advice, Flowa!

Belle of Buds said:

I'm excited to see what she's gonna look like over the next 30 days. This is Bubba 76 and the last time I grew it, she was ready in just at 8 weeks so I'm thinking 30 more days max. This strain is one of the absolute, hand's down, stinkiest skunky plants I've ever grown. I happen to like the smell of skunks (aminal and plant) and I'm in heaven right now with 9 of them in full bloom.

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If i had a choice, i'd grow nothing BUT skunk You just can't beat that taste/smell!!! I don't think there's anything else in the world that can be so easily identified by the smell.
Good luck

eastcoastmo said:

Nice man, watch her double in size over the next week hoping mine does the same lol

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Oh, i think she will!! I cut some clones last night, i probably should of documented it lol! I was on a one track mind last night and i didn't even know what i was doing.... so damn stoned that i get up to do something, and i immediately forgot what i was going to do! But she's been shortened considerably, all her mains chomped down evenly, She's going to be a MONSTER Update should be tonight..... depends on what nug i mull next hehe

daveroller said:

This is my homage to Flowamasta:

I tried to copy the basic design of your system, Flowa. 2 buckets on top, nested together with holes drilled in their bottoms and the top one lined with a paint strainer bag, filled with coarse Perlite. Underneath them is the res, that grey plastic pan, which holds 5 gallons. So far the plant looks healthy after transplanting it from DWC yesterday. It's a strain called "Critical Kush" by Barney's Farm seed co.

I know I won't get 2 pounds from this plant, but I'll be happy with a couple ounces or so, given the other limitations in my cabinet. Thanks to you for your journal and all your helpful advice, Flowa!

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Nice work Dave I most appreciate your kind feedback and support, i'm just an everyday dude trying to get the word out To think all the money i've spent over the years actually BUYING erb.... I just realized today, this is my 8th grow in total.
Those buckets seem to work well together, i can't tell from the pics, but sometimes those buckets degrade over time, and might get a little 'crispy' due to the chems/light/heat over time. But if they are heavy duty then i wouldn't worry

I just LOVE seeing others trying this method out! Soon more will see how convenient and simple this really is, and we will all be living in a happier world! Its such a simple method, almost fool proof! I hope Gnines buds are gonna be sexy!!! its weird growing something and not having a single clue about it!