FlowaMasta's Methodology @ How to Grow Monster pound plants!!! ( Jack H X Skunk )

eastcoastmo said:

Damn bro, she sounds like a real gem, awesome score on your part hey she is just so healthy and those colas are as thick as anything an ounce a cola is amazing lol, ive only ever seen it on outdoor plants so im hanging to see how much you get out of them if they are that big already

I've also been told by other that the dutch master gold nute line is good too, my mate at the hydro shop has always said it works well and he uses it himself. Its also a lot damn cheaper than the cyco range haha. Are you using the same line for flowering as well?

I must look into one of the samsung cameras like yours too, im using a dlsr but just cant seem to get a close up macro shot to work. I'll have to do some more reading i reckon as im sure one of the two lenses i have should be able to do the job, jesus its a $1500 camera for gods sake lol!

this weather has got me buggered man, i guess its just telling us that autumn is on its way i dont mind the cooler temps as it helps keep my tent that little bit cooler

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I have been very lucky all round

I think the outdoor has some oz colas on her she's leaning alot more now, swelling fast!! i'll post pics shortly tonight depending on how bent this next cone gets me! But yeah, i'm truly shocked at the indoor, they look like witches hats! perfectly formed pointy colas. That's a first for me too

I'm impressed with Dutch Masters , however i only had the grow A+B was given to me, and recommended. Ofcourse i had seen his quality bud which sealed the deal for me. I should have bought the Bloom and there's another add on side but i can't remember what it was called!? ahh add.27 good stuff i hear. The smell has come through in veg and has gotten me excited. My mates erb was deeeeeeelicious white widow i believe. He owes me a clone too

thenugget said:

your not wrong about the weather man up and down all the time hot in the morning raining and cold in the arvo! well done on your grow mate you fucking know how to grow weed thats for sure.

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Thanx man! I appreciate that hopefully about 1 week for the big stuff on the outdoor, i'm pushing it only because the smell is changing to a funky skunky smell and i cant go without that! maybe the weather change brought on the skunk!? either way she's on the water now and her leaves are dying fast.

I really think most of my good luck with growing dank comes down to obsession and fluke! gotta love ya ladies too they always reward with a bit of care and devotion

A few more backyard sleeps yet

Nice bro, cant wait to see how fat this outdoor girl of yours is hey

Good info on the dutch master too man, cheers for sharing!! Your current grow is a perfect example of how good they are too
Sounds like a real keeper strain too, i'll be interested to hear how she smokes and tastes too.

Damn man, I'd love to watch you grow a white widow, that would be unreal. They are stunning plants and done the way you do it would be High Times worthy lol

I told you you were an internet celebrity brah, I must be following you!.... Farm is dead... I like this thread alot better anyways! just read through like 30 pages, couldn't finish it though. You use the Cyco Xl on the gold this run meh? -S0uP

eastcoastmo said:

Nice bro, cant wait to see how fat this outdoor girl of yours is hey

Good info on the dutch master too man, cheers for sharing!! Your current grow is a perfect example of how good they are too
Sounds like a real keeper strain too, i'll be interested to hear how she smokes and tastes too.

Damn man, I'd love to watch you grow a white widow, that would be unreal. They are stunning plants and done the way you do it would be High Times worthy lol

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She's swelling like a pregnant chick Unusually i have a high ratio of amber trichs happening!? Not many Calyxs to swell now, a majority of the plant is nice and firm, the nugs have a good greasy appeal to them and a not bad leaf to bud ratio. I will have quite a problem manicuring this plant, i certainly won't be doing it on the night i harvest. any touching these buds while they are fresh, fills the area with a strong smell of skunk so i'm going to have to let them rest for a couple of days so they lose a bit of moisture and i'll slowly clean them up 1 cola at a time it will also allow me to contain any bugs that i might bring in, which i will set up fly traps and sticky traps for. No way i'm making this smell worse than it already does. I goto sleep and i can smell it through my pillow ( i am outside in a tent, but still ) My senses have been over loaded and i just can't wait for her to fully ripen! her smell is getting there, i can tell. Its funny, the side of the plant i never EVER get too is more mature than the rest of the plant as it gets the early morning sun as it rises and Hits that section first.

On the white widow, My first grow might of been white widow. A huge chance of it as the guy i got it off was quite up there with strains and always loved the over-seas seeds. many people said it looked like white widow, some thought afghan skunk. A mate cloned it, and played around creating his own hybrid and is still pulling awesome erb with it, but its no longer around the same as how i had it first round.

Oo S0uP oO said:

I told you you were an internet celebrity brah, I must be following you!.... Farm is dead... I like this thread alot better anyways! just read through like 30 pages, couldn't finish it though. You use the Cyco Xl on the gold this run meh? -S0uP

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lol eeeeeeyyyyy SouP welcome to the RIU setting! a little different from the farm, less resolution pics.... hang around a few trying the flowa method getting more people growing less plants, and bigger to produce fatter, larger buds! I'm seeing less people grow a 1x1 metre tent and filling it with 20 plants lol it just doesn't seem even fun to me that way, i like it when everything looks like it could collapse at any moment

Like this for instance...... yes.... yes i know there is buds there hanging upside down.... i cant get to them. i wish them all the best of luck !!!! That goes for everyone at RIU also

thanx for being here everyone!! enjoy my thread!

She is still packing on the weight! How is the weather?

Very nice Flo!!! She is really putting it on now. Should be another week at most?? I'd come help ya trim n stink up the neighborhood if I lived closer hah Peace!!!

They finish slower outdoors. Just watch - they will double in size and start falling over

Mohican said:

She is still packing on the weight! How is the weather?

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Morning, or should i say Good Afternoon or goodnight lol ?

You bet Mo! right when i think she's finished swelling, out pop another layer of white hairs and more bud growth!!!??
The weather is awesome, and averaging 30 degrees celcius! I've noticed she isn't taking on as much water even though the weather is hot. I wasn't aware the outdoor plants did this, i certainly haven't grown one this big thats for sure!!

I think because she re-vegged through daylight savings I think it gave her a huge adantage to start flowering. I'm thinking she's more sensitive to light hours outdoors, and that gives that countdown of hours in a day so it can produce more bud sites for longer before actual flower set as arrived

Shaggn said:

Very nice Flo!!! She is really putting it on now. Should be another week at most?? I'd come help ya trim n stink up the neighborhood if I lived closer hah Peace!!!

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I rekon you're about right that pic was a few days old, Judging by her smell i dare say she's close

Mohican said:

They finish slower outdoors. Just watch - they will double in size and start falling over

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Oh she's done that!! lol... i got buds leaning sideways upside down, i'll be out there again to make sure none are touching its a mess, the weather is quite frosty in the morning, and its showing small amounts of colour
I think she tripled in size I dried a small sample bud and it was 10 grams, if i average that over each cola..... eeegggghhhh i hate to think. Where am i going to hang/dry this!!! lol i better get organised

I broke down and bought some drying racks

Yeah they stop drinking as much when the fan leaves stop growing. They will start to yellow and die and the buds will just keep getting thicker and frostier. Even when the outside girls were dying they were still popping out new white hairs and frosting up. If the weather had stayed hot I think I could have seen double the weight I got.

This dying bud has a new set of white hairs popping out. This super soil really keeps them growing (in a 7 gallon fabric smart pot):




Let her go till she looks like she is dying and see what you get!



Cheers,
Mo

I'm thinking she will weigh out more than I previously thought!! Gorgeous lady to say the least. You're going to need a room to dry her out as she looks like she will take up quite a bit of space

Looks Like more than a week to me.... Jeez maybe if you could get some better pics! Seriously though it does look to be a little bit farther. Do you ever use a scope flowa or is it always intuition??? Either way it seems to work out! -S0uP

I'm with Shagn, I reckon my tip of a lb may be a bit of an understatement, she is absolutely monsterous

Sounds like she is definitely on her way to ripening though man, unusual that you have so many amber trics already too, mine went from being 70% milky and 30% clear to 70% milky and 30% amber in a few days i bet the smell is making you full paranoid too dude, its just so hard to hide hey haha. I'd leave yours at least another week dude, maybe even 2 or until it gets a bit colder...see how much weight she stacks on

Very impressive Dr Greenthumb, you got this shit well and truly sorted

Mohican said:

I broke down and bought some drying racks

Yeah they stop drinking as much when the fan leaves stop growing. They will start to yellow and die and the buds will just keep getting thicker and frostier. Even when the outside girls were dying they were still popping out new white hairs and frosting up. If the weather had stayed hot I think I could have seen double the weight I got.

This dying bud has a new set of white hairs popping out. This super soil really keeps them growing (in a 7 gallon fabric smart pot):

Let her go till she looks like she is dying and see what you get!



Cheers,
Mo

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Thanx Mo! love your input! I will keep your thoughts into consideration ofcourse Its hard when i feel soo nervous at the same time. I feel fine growing indoors, but this..... outside!? waaaaaaaay too much bud to have in a rental backyard. I'm not sure i will leave her that long, have done in the past with a few select plants and i found the slightly earlier stuff is more of a buzz and the effect seems to last longer, i am a true believer of harvesting when a majority of trichs are milky, very few amber. I don't have many clear trichs but still a few baby ones here and there and more than enough amber already. My little theory has taught me that trichomes still mature after harvesting. This plant seemed to have ripened from the centre out, or rather the lower stuff first thus the inside of the buds are nice and developed, very close to filling in. My sample bud looks delicious i will take a pic when fully dried. It was a 50 gram fresh sample about 5 days ago, and its at about 12 grams now off the stem snipped down.
I think she will be gorgeous by Friday, maybe sunday. The nugs all feel nice and tight more than they look up close even. She has that strong ripe aroma which keeps me from handling her too much! Not many strains should take more than 8 weeks to flower. And i seen the start of flower pistils at around 25th January. which puts her at about 60 days flowering on monday next week. Hard to think straight.

Shaggn said:

I'm thinking she will weigh out more than I previously thought!! Gorgeous lady to say the least. You're going to need a room to dry her out as she looks like she will take up quite a bit of space

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what was your previous guess? I'm guessing around 500 grams atleast, surely! Yes drying room is going to be an issue. But more so the smell. I can't use my spare carbon filter as its currently helping a 2nd keep the indoor smell down! What am i doing..... I'm organized but not really

Oo S0uP oO said:

Looks Like more than a week to me.... Jeez maybe if you could get some better pics! Seriously though it does look to be a little bit farther. Do you ever use a scope flowa or is it always intuition??? Either way it seems to work out! -S0uP

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How much longer would you be saying? I'm not going for a dramatic yield, just going for ultimate in potency and flavour. Its similar to how my indoor jack flowered the 2nd time, she kept wanting to throw out more new white hairs. I honestly think its the weather, just trying to keep her growing. I assure all of you she is more done than she looks. I upload my pics to select the goodies and always wonder why it doesn't quite show what the eye does... I haven't even taken pics from the other side of the plant yet, the side that gets full sun. shit passed out!! this post took half the day oops

oh yeah, edit : i don't need to use a scope, my camera is plenty enough. RIU pic quality is dismal at best, these pics showing 200-300kb, the originals are more like 6-7mb each. Zoom is not an issue i just need better lighting and positioning I need a new tripod cause i somehow (stoned) left it at a lookout somewhere and forgot about it! I'm so used to doing it freehand, but lately my luck hasn't been the best with photos!

I know what you mean. My Mr Goo 2 years ago had me so paranoid and I cut it down in August. I swear there were 5 different people that had to go in my back yard that August - gas, electric, phone... And it smelled so strong! Last year fixed the pool electrical (ran 220 volt). I had to tie up some branches so he could work

I do not know whether Indica plants drop fan leaves when they are finishing but the Sativa lost almost all of its fan leaves before it finished. I thought it had a disease until all of the different plantings in different soils and different exposure to bugs were showing the same trait. The leaves would just turn yellow and drop off!

I had a big black seed back in 1980 that grew with great vigor and had star shaped 5 point leaves right off the bat. I never got to see them finish and I have never seen that type of seed again. It was about this same time that most of the herb was seedless so I did not see many seeds. I have been searching for info on these seeds and I finally found a reference book from 1981 that gives seed descriptions of the strains of the time and it states that Hindu Kush was know to be the strain that had large black seeds.

The seed progression, as I witnessed it was - 75-78 the seeds were all solid beige (Colombian), then they started to get darker and had spots 78-79, then stripes 79-80, then the dark part was covering more of the seed and there was the black ones 1980. Mostly after that time the seeds that I saw had the spotted look.

Wow - that was a tangent ha ha

Mohican said:

I know what you mean. My Mr Goo 2 years ago had me so paranoid and I cut it down in August. I swear there were 5 different people that had to go in my back yard that August - gas, electric, phone... And it smelled so strong! Last year fixed the pool electrical (ran 220 volt). I had to tie up some branches so he could work

I do not know whether Indica plants drop fan leaves when they are finishing but the Sativa lost almost all of its fan leaves before it finished. I thought it had a disease until all of the different plantings in different soils and different exposure to bugs were showing the same trait. The leaves would just turn yellow and drop off!

I had a big black seed back in 1980 that grew with great vigor and had star shaped 5 point leaves right off the bat. I never got to see them finish and I have never seen that type of seed again. It was about this same time that most of the herb was seedless so I did not see many seeds. I have been searching for info on these seeds and I finally found a reference book from 1981 that gives seed descriptions of the strains of the time and it states that Hindu Kush was know to be the strain that had large black seeds.

The seed progression, as I witnessed it was - 75-78 the seeds were all solid beige (Colombian), then they started to get darker and had spots 78-79, then stripes 79-80, then the dark part was covering more of the seed and there was the black ones 1980. Mostly after that time the seeds that I saw had the spotted look.

Wow - that was a tangent ha ha

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Wow indeed thankyou Mo! nice funny story. Love that you had to tie branches up for tech man to work what was he thinking!? he must of been in heaven. You know he wouldn't of gone to sleep after seeing that. Thats like seeing a hot naked goddess with 3 breasts!
Don't get me wrong, there are many leaves dying off and going yellow, some have gone dead dead and dropped off themselves! I'm thinking i may have given her a good dosing of food which got her along a bit perhaps. I'm shocked to see a plant this size in a 320mm 36 litre pot. This has got to be pushing the roots to the max. I'm going to check out the outdoor soon!

We had a nice chat about it - what kind it was, why it didn't smell (showed him the stem rub smell that smelled like Old Spice), how big it was, how do you know when it is done... He has done electrical work for us before and he is a really nice humble guy that does great electrical work. It was such a funny sight with him pushing colas out of his way to get to the pool pump

People here in SoCal tend to be pretty chill about the whole MJ scene. Don't get me wrong though, there are still plenty of narcs too!

Looking real close at those pics, I would say 10-15 Days.... The tops are still stacking on white hairs (I know this is not a truly accurate way to tell when the plant is absolutely ripe), but we can agree its a rough estimate on maturity,and as far as I can tell she still wants to give you more. As you said, trichomes (and the whole plant really) is still alive and aging after the cull so may be on the near side of 12 but still... -S0uP

Mohican said:

We had a nice chat about it - what kind it was, why it didn't smell (showed him the stem rub smell that smelled like Old Spice), how big it was, how do you know when it is done... He has done electrical work for us before and he is a really nice humble guy that does great electrical work. It was such a funny sight with him pushing colas out of his way to get to the pool pump

People here in SoCal tend to be pretty chill about the whole MJ scene. Don't get me wrong though, there are still plenty of narcs too!

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Thats awesome i would of had a camera setup lol, what a thing to remember! did you have any peeps looking over your fence? having a sniff? surely to other people it smelt more than the average plant! especially your living jungle lol!

Oo S0uP oO said:

Looking real close at those pics, I would say 10-15 Days.... The tops are still stacking on white hairs (I know this is not a truly accurate way to tell when the plant is absolutely ripe), but we can agree its a rough estimate on maturity,and as far as I can tell she still wants to give you more. As you said, trichomes (and the whole plant really) is still alive and aging after the cull so may be on the near side of 12 but still... -S0uP

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I understand where you're coming from, I won't get away with that long. Monday next week will be the ultimate in pushing the boundaries in both maturity and safety here, This smell is very obvious even walking past my house! Also from what i've seen from Jack growing her through and through She ripens from the bottom up of the buds. The white hairs you see up top will recede in mere days they are what little flowers there is to swell. All the bottom stuff has stopped growing, and i got a damn right mess in there of dead leaves. I also am leaving all buds to sit and rest for 2-3 days before i trim ANYTHING off. This further enhances flavour and appearance in my opinion and also slows down the shrinking and lets the bud keep its shape while protecting the trichomes and slows down the rate of degradation, allowing the buds to naturally air out the moisture with the leaves can be a bonus, plus i can't see me making bubble hash with outdoor. Too many contaminants like dust and dirt... so i'll trim near dry and make a nice Brownie mix. I got my nice Amsterdam Gold for quality bubble I'll get a pic up of the outdoor early sample shortly, just snapped a few. Can barely tell its early.

I gotta learn to charge the camera!!! the thing last for weeks and weeks then all of a sudden i realize it runs on a battery lol Pics of outdoor plant will be tomoz But i got a few samples of 1 medium size cola. It is an early sample. I just want to see if i dosed her too hard with nutes.... The last tiny sample i had was smooth and had a great kick to it considering it was such an early immature bud. So this is getting closer to the taste i'm after. Doesn't look quite like indoor Jack but I think the Big Colas are going to keep me VERY HAPPY for a LOOOOOOOONG time!!! I've also rarely had the opportunity to grow both indoors and out at the same time. I just looooooove Ganja

Don't knock it too hard lol, this is a early sample...... I would like to see more resin, but this bud was leaning on the shade cloth, and was getting no light whatsoever. Nearly fully dried, only lost bit over half a gram in the last day.

Looks nice and tasty to me. Plus natural environment in no way is going to be as good as the Flowamasta's environment!!!!

Tried to +rep you, still have to spread more around...