flowamasta
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Day 13 vegging.... growing flatout now, happy with her growth rate, she had a nice flush tonight, fresh nutes
FlowaMasta'a NEW Jack H x Skunk - 1 Plant 600HPS + UVB Monster Scrog!!!
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scroglodyte
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looks great, Flo
flowamasta
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thanx man! at this rate a net will be in next week sometime
monster.green.thumb
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so why pearlite my friend? instead of hydroton? and could you please explain to an aspiring hydro grower how the hempys style potting works?
thinking about starting up a lil side project...
thinking about starting up a lil side project...
flowamasta
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perlite is a more coarse medium, more ground up, so the roots have more space for growth, more gaps for roots hairs to travel. i use about 3 inches of hydroton on the bottom layer, but around 95% perlite. I believe it's called hempy style, the idea is 1 pot (the one containing the medium and root system) sits in a potsock, and that pot sits inside another pot similar in size and shape to fit, with 4 large holes drilled in the bottom for drainage, the potsock prevents hydroton and perlite from falling through into nutrient res. it is a simple flow through re-circulating system, automatically feeds every 2.5 hours, 15 minute intervals each feed, if i feel the plant is getting too much water i simply back off the feed to every 3 or 4 hours.
plus these are 50 litre pots, hydroton is more expensive than perlite. $30 = 100 litres perlite, $30 = 30 litres hydroton
monster.green.thumb
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ah gotcha. perfect sense. kinda like what i was thinking about doing. i like the dwc idea because its simpler and therefore easily maintained. i say simpler, but i mean itd really be splitting hairs here. this method definitely seems very simple too.
i dont think that hydroton is that expensive here. not quite sure, i will have to check. i think i will be getting a 5 gallon bucket with a net pot in the lid. you fill the bucket to immerse the net pot about an inch or so, put a clone directly in it. then all thats needed is a nice aquarium airstone and pump. of course use whatever nutes u want in the solution. the airstone supersaturates the solution with oxygen, which increases root growth. you can also then recirculate the solution. you can do this continually because the roots dont need time to dry up/breath/oxygenate. thinkin of settin one of these babys up to just give it a try, but i cant fit the thing in my veg cab. so.
i dont think that hydroton is that expensive here. not quite sure, i will have to check. i think i will be getting a 5 gallon bucket with a net pot in the lid. you fill the bucket to immerse the net pot about an inch or so, put a clone directly in it. then all thats needed is a nice aquarium airstone and pump. of course use whatever nutes u want in the solution. the airstone supersaturates the solution with oxygen, which increases root growth. you can also then recirculate the solution. you can do this continually because the roots dont need time to dry up/breath/oxygenate. thinkin of settin one of these babys up to just give it a try, but i cant fit the thing in my veg cab. so.
lordjin
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You think I should run perlite in my net pots?
flowamasta
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With your system Jin, i would say they are on par, your root system is entirely different, even though these are both different ends of Hydroponics styles. I love my big thick coarse perlite, i think you could give it a go, i would say there would be a minimal difference, at a guess
Jin, I think you would have a blast doing a 100% perlite run! with the style you use with scroging, it could be efficient, and a good learning experience. what kind of yields did you get this run?
also Hydroton is alot heavier than perlite, but holds less oxygen and water. Got you thinking didn't i Jin
you monitor things obsessively like me, so i don't think you would have any troubles. have you always grown aeroponics?I say go for it jin, you might surprise yourself....my thinking tells me your system can be an incredibly perfect system, your growth is based on how well you can get your roots to flourish in your nutrients, my system will stay almost stable as long as my perlite is kept wet, if my roots dry out for too long, disaster can happen, i myself can hear my pumps start up through the wall, and hear the bubbles coming through the hoses, that reminds me to keep check of things. My method is impossible to over water, as long as my system is recirculating. I find a balance where the leaves look like they are sitting nicely, if they look droopy, i feed more often
flowamasta
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u could basically use ping pong balls lol!! just for the base anyway, well maybe not ping pong balls, but if the perlite is coarse enough it wont fall through the pot sock, i wash, and wash, and wash the perlite before planting, to rid of all the dust, and things that may wash through, my pump in my res has a filter gauze so that will never block, and if ever perlite happens to appear in the res, well it floatsword on the street is hydrotron is not going to be produced any more ......., perhaps its just in canada but thats what the guy at my hydro shop said ..... good thing i dont use it no loss to me
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[420]Haze
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Pot socks serve no real purpose other than easy clean up and removal of previous medium, like flowa said it just prevents your medium filling your bottom return pot with crap, i love em and use em everytime, slip a new sock in and no need to scrub or wash to remove previous nute salt residue build up, there is none, its in the old pot sock, it holds it.
flowamasta
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correct[420]Haze;7362172 said:
i still give everything a harsh scrub anyway, i'm a clean freak when it comes to my erbs.., i just wish potsocks were a bit tougher, one time i went to lift the sock out (heavy as fuk) and the stupid thing ripped round the top, and well. 50 litres of wet perlite can make a hell of a mess, i was lucky and managed to turn it upside down in a garbage bin without spilling too much!! other than than, i think they are the way to go for sure!
Favre2Harvin
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^^ I'd be curious to that question as well.
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flowamasta
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any hydro store really, i get mine at the hardware store, some nurseries may stock them, i'm sure ebay would sell them, check them out here, just did a quick search under POT SOX.....not POT socks.....http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/POT-LINER-SOX-SUIT-3-X-50-LITRE-POTS-HYDROPONICS-/160777889045?pt=AU_Seed_Starting_Hydroponics&hash=item256f1be515#ht_1503wt_953
[420]Haze
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Bang on the money Flowa !correct
i just wish potsocks were a bit tougher, one time i went to lift the sock out (heavy as fuk) and the stupid thing ripped round the top, and well. 50 litres of wet perlite can make a hell of a mess, i was lucky and managed to turn it upside down in a garbage bin without spilling too much!! other than than, i think they are the way to go for sure!
i also give a clean anyways too, youve seen my setup, if 1 leaf hits the ground im all over it, OCD freaky clean, lol, however, in reality its probs not required. LOL at your sock ripping, i made that brutal mistake once only after getting an earful from the mrs about how coco belongs in pots not all over her carpet. **Whoopsie**
flowamasta
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lol, i hear you[420]Haze;7365318 said:
thanx man! great to hear you got another grow going on, i miss your colourful garden!! can't forget that !!, keep us all informedLooking good as always FM! I had a little hiatus due to being so busy in RL. My next grow is well on its way as well though!
awesome work haze, that's when you know you've maxed out the perfect size pot[420]Haze;7365349 said:Heres my 30 litre pot sox ( and rootballs ) from last round ;
gotta love how they overgrow the sox like that!my last.....
