Chronikool
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Also remember that you dont want the drivers running at above 500mA (as a general rule) because if they are running harder in a small amount of space, they create more heat and more stresses on the whole system.
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Slipon
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I see, so go for the 500mA, thats easy most is that 
and long neck as it work as cooling, make sense
I have one question tho, the GU10 do it need some kind of transformer ? or is that only the MR16 that run of 12V ?
my plug`s deliver 220-230V so can I just get the GU10 on 230V and plug them directly to the power ? (I will of course get the right plugs and wires aso)
also I can get em in 220V and 240V I guess 220V wont last long on 230V power supply ? but what about 240V will it last longer ? will it run "weaker" ?
sorry Im a metal smith, not a electrican, actually skip the classes to smoke weed at the lake near the school with two others 
one year ground school you need in Denmark before the 4 years long stainless steel smith education, you go trough smith, electricity, auto, machine making/CNC and chose one for second half year
and long neck as it work as cooling, make sense
I have one question tho, the GU10 do it need some kind of transformer ? or is that only the MR16 that run of 12V ?
my plug`s deliver 220-230V so can I just get the GU10 on 230V and plug them directly to the power ? (I will of course get the right plugs and wires aso)
also I can get em in 220V and 240V I guess 220V wont last long on 230V power supply ? but what about 240V will it last longer ? will it run "weaker" ?
sorry Im a metal smith, not a electrican, actually skip the classes to smoke weed at the lake near the school with two others
one year ground school you need in Denmark before the 4 years long stainless steel smith education, you go trough smith, electricity, auto, machine making/CNC and chose one for second half year
Slipon
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I like this attitude.....!
Maybe add a few warm whites into that veg fixture...so 7 x 5000k and 3 x 3000k?
Personally i would go for the 5 x 2w (10w) GU10's....
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/20X-NEW-Arrival-Energy-saving-High-Power-GU10-10W-LED-lighting-Spotlight-led-bulbs-led-lamp/606946883.html
Notice the heatsink is longer (bigger)....This will add alot more life to the bulb
yea some warm white will be needed, tho the neutral white is on 3500-5000K for veg that cover most, but yea some more Red/fare red will be needed Im sure
now other problem (stupid trading restrictions, hope "they" agree on some sort of free trait deal soon
)I need to pay tax when ordering out side Europe
I also have to pay a handling fee, that alone is one 30$ tax is like 20% shipping not included tho unless
I order for less then 14$ .. now I have seen some bulb`s I can order in single pieces and even with free shipping but it would mean I had to make the order 10 times to avoid tax and handling fee prize different is 100$ (150$ instead of 250$)alternative is to buy em here, but even the cheapest once cost like 10$ (not 2-3$) to even with tax/fee the china once would be cheaper
lemesee ......
Chronikool
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The GU10's will run from 85-265v....i am in a country running 220-240v. They work fine. No transformers needed....just some sockets like these:I see, so go for the 500mA, thats easy most is that
and long neck as it work as cooling, make sense
I have one question tho, the GU10 do it need some kind of transformer ? or is that only the MR16 that run of 12V ?
my plug`s deliver 220-230V so can I just get the GU10 on 230V and plug them directly to the power ? (I will of course get the right plugs and wires aso)
also I can get em in 220V and 240V I guess 220V wont last long on 230V power supply ? but what about 240V will it last longer ? will it run "weaker" ?
sorry Im a metal smith, not a electrican, actually skip the classes to smoke weed at the lake near the school with two others
one year ground school you need in Denmark before the 4 years long stainless steel smith education, you go trough smith, electricity, auto, machine making/CNC and chose one for second half year
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/10pcs-Lot-GU10-Base-Socket-LED-Light-Bulbs-Lamps-New-Regulation-Ceramic-Mains-Holder-Wire-Connector/574345432.html
Hahaha....i suggest you order a single piece at a time then...unless you can get the supplier to say they are $10....instead of $30 or whatever....yea some warm white will be needed, tho the neutral white is on 3500-5000K for veg that cover most, but yea some more Red/fare red will be needed Im sure
now other problem (stupid trading restrictions, hope "they" agree on some sort of free trait deal soon
I need to pay tax when ordering out side Europe
unless
alternative is to buy em here, but even the cheapest once cost like 10$ (not 2-3$) to even with tax/fee the china once would be cheaper
lemesee ......
Slipon
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hehe yea, well I can actually order 3 at the time if I stick to them 3x3W guess I could order 3WW and 3NW and make it two orders as shipping is free
that could give me enough to check em out and see if every thing is as I like it shipping/quality/light strength and make a small fixture for veg or side lightning with 6 spot`s
and funny enough I did try that once, actually from the US, motor bike parts, talk with em and agreed they should cut a bit of the total cost, they DID !!!
did have a good laugh when I saw the order/letter on the side of the box full of electronic/lights/handlebar aso that each part cost 0,sumthing cent`s
I guess customs did`t check or they for sure would have smelled the rat with them prices
that could give me enough to check em out and see if every thing is as I like it shipping/quality/light strength and make a small fixture for veg or side lightning with 6 spot`s
and funny enough I did try that once, actually from the US, motor bike parts, talk with em and agreed they should cut a bit of the total cost, they DID !!!
did have a good laugh when I saw the order/letter on the side of the box full of electronic/lights/handlebar aso that each part cost 0,sumthing cent`s
I guess customs did`t check or they for sure would have smelled the rat with them prices
crashbog127
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heyy slip amazing grow you got here.
would it be cool if i pmed you?
would it be cool if i pmed you?
crashbog127
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it seems your inbox is full lol
crashbog127
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it sent lol thanks
mycomaster
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I have to say you're changing my mind about led light's. I've been doing alot of reading on them lately and reading your post's as well, I guess it all depends on the quality and type. Anyways your grow is looking fantastic, keep up the great work man. I'll be back to check on these beauties for sure. Good luck, Good grow, Be safe, 
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prosperian
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Looking good brother. Nice even canopy.
With access only through my closet door I feel it's too restrictive for a SCROG because I cannot access the back corners of the containers very easily. I will be moving to one gallon geopot containers and then 5 gal. I will also have the auto Diesel in there probably a 3 gal container max. Maybe in practice it's not as difficult as I imagine.
I haven't decided 100% on what LST I will be doing on this grow if any. The main colas rose 6" above the rest of the colas but I had only a small amount of popcorn bud.
Wondering how to get more bud weight?
The easiest way might be by extending my veg time past 4 weeks with some minimum trimming to keep things manageable and using the larger 5 gal over the 3 gal I used last time?
Whatever I do, I want it to be an improvement over my last crop's .63/watt bud production.
Any advice on what trimming I should try if any? Thanks for the advice!
With access only through my closet door I feel it's too restrictive for a SCROG because I cannot access the back corners of the containers very easily. I will be moving to one gallon geopot containers and then 5 gal. I will also have the auto Diesel in there probably a 3 gal container max. Maybe in practice it's not as difficult as I imagine.
I haven't decided 100% on what LST I will be doing on this grow if any. The main colas rose 6" above the rest of the colas but I had only a small amount of popcorn bud.
Wondering how to get more bud weight?
The easiest way might be by extending my veg time past 4 weeks with some minimum trimming to keep things manageable and using the larger 5 gal over the 3 gal I used last time?
Whatever I do, I want it to be an improvement over my last crop's .63/watt bud production.
Any advice on what trimming I should try if any? Thanks for the advice!
mycomaster
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Have you Ever heard of main-lining? In a tight space it can produce some really amazing results. Nice even, low canopy and all your flowers get about the same amount of nutrients and hormones from the plant. So the cannabanoid levels are all pretty even throughout all your meds. Pretty cool method really, just kind slows down your veg. If you're interested just type in main-lining in the search you'll find all kinds of stuff on it. Good luck, Good grow, be safe, out.
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BegginerNew
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hey mate so i read you first led grow impressive how cool led and you bud look and healty true it
am remember to ask you couple of questions as i forgot b4
am remember to ask you couple of questions as i forgot b4
- [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Tahoma, Calibri, Geneva, sans-serif]Epsom salt i see many grower use this what this [/FONT]exactly[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] is what it benefits etc.
[/FONT]also bat queno i forgot to tell you i was planing to buy it to but i don't know
how use it also i heard u can make 'tea' ? readed aloot but as my english is
fuck up dont understand half
also i not sure did bio top -mix include worm casting or batangueno ardy
Slipon
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Bat guano powder is just used as a top dressing = a few table spoon`s on top of your soil before watering, a few times doing mid/late flowering (the 15% P I use)
Epsom salt, also called English salt (as its from England "Surrey") is Magnesium sulfate and will provide the plant`s with both magnesium and sulfate, both important secondary nutrients the plant`s need beside NPK, weed specially like the Mg
have a read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate
Btw
google is a great tool to look up stuff you don't understand or like to know more about, also nice to help your spelling
Slipon
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I did scrog my plant`s individual with just a few Bamboo stick`s and some chicken wire, them tomato cage`s can also work, be creative bro
its all about keeping them plant`s small even and bushy with as many top`s as possible under the light
if you dont like to jump in to the deep water right away, I would advice you to atleast do some LST
wait until the seedling`s have grown up a bit and is looking nice and healthy and is about done being seedling`s maybe when they are 5-7 inch`s high and have 5-8 Nod`s
maybe after you made your repotting and they had a week to settle in, I also like to see some nice small side shoot`s peeking out (and ready
)use a string at soil level to secure the steam in the other direction then you intent to bend it, and bend it twice, at two points, a little half way up and then make the "real" bend under the top Nod with the second string, so the bend don't come out to sharp, can also do it over a few day`s a bit more every day if your scared to snap em (don't, you just end up with a topped plant if you cant safe em, that is also a option for you) make sure the string alove the plant`s to grow in diameter and is`t sharp
hormones will be redirected to the other top`s and all the side shoot`s will try to grow up and become that main tip
look at my Veg plant at one of the previous page`s that have been LST a lot doing last 4 week`s getting it ready with as many top`s as possible for the scrog/flowering
EDIT: you could also completely rethink it and try vertical, now you got a 400W in a cool tube (try to look in to the vertical grow thread`s)
kushhound187
Active Member
Its not just any topdressing. Fruitbatshit is the best organic to increase youre yield. but you should dig it into the soil surface. and i actually like makeing bat and worm shit tea to feed to the plants. throw on some eggshells and you should have some good weed. works for me. only have to feed once or twice in flower. organics feed the soil. soil feeds the plants.
Slipon
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btw
one thing I do notice, is the nice Bud structure, the nice smell and most of all the Trichomes, when I look at the Top`s of my plant`s the leaves have Tricomes all over, all the way out to the tip`s (not sugar leaves they are completely covered already)
if this continue Im pretty sure this will be the most potent grow I have done to date, maybe close to what the strain promise (24% THC 1,3% CBD)
yield wish, to early to tell, I can do with 4Oz .. I hope for 6Oz .. any bet`s ? (I talk dried/cured top Bud`s)
one thing I do notice, is the nice Bud structure, the nice smell and most of all the Trichomes, when I look at the Top`s of my plant`s the leaves have Tricomes all over, all the way out to the tip`s (not sugar leaves they are completely covered already)
if this continue Im pretty sure this will be the most potent grow I have done to date, maybe close to what the strain promise (24% THC 1,3% CBD)
yield wish, to early to tell, I can do with 4Oz .. I hope for 6Oz .. any bet`s ? (I talk dried/cured top Bud`s)
BegginerNew
Member
thx mate aloot helping out again i know you can find anything from google but i reading all forums etc got no time to google and rather i ask pplBat guano powder is just used as a top dressing = a few table spoon`s on top of your soil before watering, a few times doing mid/late flowering (the 15% P I use)
Epsom salt, also called English salt (as its from England "Surrey") is Magnesium sulfate and will provide the plant`s with both magnesium and sulfate, both important secondary nutrients the plant`s need beside NPK, weed specially like the Mg
have a read:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnesium_sulfate
Btw
google is a great tool to look up stuff you don't understand or like to know more about, also nice to help your spelling
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