First water and nutes question

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Theguyfrom85

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I am only asking because the link to the answer on the forum is broken.
I have done a lot of research but want input from the collective.

I bought FFs tiger bloom, big bloom, and grow big because it seemed to be the consensus on slot of forums. I also bought cal mag as well.

I am currently entering week 3 and the plant looks okay, the tip of one leaf looks like it’s yellowing but I need your input on that as well, please see the pictures. Should I be concerned?

question:when and how much nutes should I be using right now.

It’s a gorilla glue auto
Entering the 2nd week since sprout
Black and gold organic soil

it’s starting to dry out a bit but I should be able to hold off til Monday to water. Just wanted to get input ahead of time.





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Dontjudgeme

Dontjudgeme

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I myself use FF nutes, and I love it. I also use amended soil, and I think the biggest difference between the 2 for me, was not having to flush the amended the soil, but both grows are pretty equal in terms of growth. But your plant is still small, I didn’t feed anything that early. I waited until it had at least 4 true leaves before introducing Nutes. Calmag really isn’t necessary unless you’re using RO or distilled water. Tap has all the Ca and Mag u need. Just make sure to leave the tap water sitting out for at least 24-48 hours to evaporate the chlorine.
 
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spek9

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Dontjudgeme said:
I myself use FF nutes, and I love it. I also use amended soil, and I think the biggest difference between the 2 for me, was not having to flush the amended the soil, but both grows are pretty equal in terms of growth. But your plant is still small, I didn’t feed anything that early. I waited until it had at least 4 true leaves before introducing Nutes. Calmag really isn’t necessary unless you’re using RO or distilled water. Tap has all the Ca and Mag u need. Just make sure to leave the tap water sitting out for at least 24-48 hours to evaporate the chlorine.
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Not all tap water contains the necessary amounts of Ca and Mg, and some doesn't contain enough for some specific strains, so having a bottle and knowing what those deficiencies look like is handy.

Also, most municipal potable water systems use Chloramine (as opposed or along with Chlorine), and the former doesn't evaporate like Chlorine does. Besides, the amount of Chlorine in drinking water won't harm the plants. If you can't smell the chlorine in the water, things will be fine.

I definitely agree that the plant is too small to start feeding yet.
 
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Theguyfrom85

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spek9 said:
Not all tap water contains the necessary amounts of Ca and Mg, and some doesn't contain enough for some specific strains, so having a bottle and knowing what those deficiencies look like is handy.

Also, most municipal potable water systems use Chloramine (as opposed or along with Chlorine), and the former doesn't evaporate like Chlorine does. Besides, the amount of Chlorine in drinking water won't harm the plants. If you can't smell the chlorine in the water, things will be fine.

I definitely agree that the plant is too small to start feeding yet.
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Awesome, thanks for the heads up.

Any word on that yellowing tip of the one leaf?
 
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Theguyfrom85

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spek9 said:
Not all tap water contains the necessary amounts of Ca and Mg, and some doesn't contain enough for some specific strains, so having a bottle and knowing what those deficiencies look like is handy.

Also, most municipal potable water systems use Chloramine (as opposed or along with Chlorine), and the former doesn't evaporate like Chlorine does. Besides, the amount of Chlorine in drinking water won't harm the plants. If you can't smell the chlorine in the water, things will be fine.

I definitely agree that the plant is too small to start feeding yet.
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Thank you for your feedback. Ill wait til the second watering then to add the nutes. Can you guide me on how much when the time comes.

I am using filtered water so are you saying I will need the cal mag?
Thanks
 
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spek9

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Theguyfrom85 said:
Thank you for your feedback. Ill wait til the second watering then to add the nutes. Can you guide me on how much when the time comes.

I am using filtered water so are you saying I will need the cal mag?
Thanks
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Start with 1/4-1/2 of what the bottle recommends for nutrients, and slowly work your way up to the full dose if required.

Regarding calmag, how was the water filtered? Is it just normal tap water with a Brita or something? Either way, you won't hurt anything by adding a 1/4 dose of calmag at feeding, but I don't add things in unless the plants tell me its required. I'd just start with the nutrients, and wait it out. Your base nutrients will have some Ca and Mg already anyway.
 
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Theguyfrom85

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spek9 said:
Start with 1/4-1/2 of what the bottle recommends for nutrients, and slowly work your way up to the full dose if required.

Regarding calmag, how was the water filtered? Is it just normal tap water with a Brita or something? Either way, you won't hurt anything by adding a 1/4 dose of calmag at feeding, but I don't add things in unless the plants tell me its required. I'd just start with the nutrients, and wait it out. Your base nutrients will have some Ca and Mg already anyway.
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Well so far I’ve been using a gallon jug from the market. That’ll change soon though just going to filtered from my fridge.

or would you just recommend tap? I live ina state known for filthy water lol.
 
Dontjudgeme

Dontjudgeme

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spek9 said:
Not all tap water contains the necessary amounts of Ca and Mg, and some doesn't contain enough for some specific strains, so having a bottle and knowing what those deficiencies look like is handy.

Also, most municipal potable water systems use Chloramine (as opposed or along with Chlorine), and the former doesn't evaporate like Chlorine does. Besides, the amount of Chlorine in drinking water won't harm the plants. If you can't smell the chlorine in the water, things will be fine.

I definitely agree that the plant is too small to start feeding yet.
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I’m fairly confident if we could smell chlorine in our water, we wouldn’t drink it, that doesn’t mean it’s not in the water. Not sure where you live, but most of the US requires chlorine to be used for contamination purposes, don’t know about chloramine. The chlorine is used to kill bacteria. The chlorine won’t hurt us, but the plants won’t like it, so letting the water sit out is necessary for the evaporative process. Look up what chlorine does to a plants soil. I do however agree that having calmag on hand is good in the event you need it. I’ve used both water sources and just got in the habit of using it even with my tap, but I’m not gonna recommend someone else to do it just because I do.
 
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spek9

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Dontjudgeme said:
Not sure where you live, but most of the US requires chlorine to be used for contamination purposes, don’t know about chloramine.
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Chloramine is a drop in replacement for Chlorine, and it's used widely across the US. This replacement does not evaporate like Chlorine does, so it's probably prudent to check your locale to see what is being used to disinfect your water.

Also, plants are not harmed by the levels of Chlorine/Chloramine in your tap water. If they were, almost all city dwelling growers wouldn't have been able to grow.

Disclaimer: Over this past summer, I built a Chlorination/filtration/UV plant for a private 20 house community just a few miles down the lake from me, so I'm mildly versed in the whole Chlorination thing. I also chlorinate my own water, as I draw it from the lake directly. I do weekly tests to ensure the system is keeping things at the proper levels.
 
Dontjudgeme

Dontjudgeme

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spek9 said:
Chloramine is a drop in replacement for Chlorine, and it's used widely across the US. This replacement does not evaporate like Chlorine does, so it's probably prudent to check your locale to see what is being used to disinfect your water.

Also, plants are not harmed by the levels of Chlorine/Chloramine in your tap water. If they were, almost all city dwelling growers wouldn't have been able to grow.

Disclaimer: Over this past summer, I built a Chlorination/filtration/UV plant for a private 20 house community just a few miles down the lake from me, so I'm mildly versed in the whole Chlorination thing. I also chlorinate my own water, as I draw it from the lake directly. I do weekly tests to ensure the system is keeping things at the proper levels.
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I don’t doubt your knowledge on water and what it contains or not. Point is, there’s chlorine in the water, regardless of how high or low it may be. And I’m not watering my plants with it. I’ve always evaporated my water and haven’t had any issues since doing it. If it ain’t broke I ain’t gonna try to fix it, even though what you said made me a little more comfortable about not doing it.
 
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