First true hermaphrodite - will clones inevidably be hermies also?

My Money Maker grew balls, and I have two clones that were headed for flowering in a week that came from this plant. I don't THINK it came from stress, as I have 3 other strains in the same tent that were under the same conditions from start to finish. My question is: Should I just scrap those clones now, and move with plan B rather than wasting the 21-25 days to see if the same thing happens? Any reason to think that a genetic copy won't follow the same results in the same environment?

greatbranch said:

My Money Maker grew balls, and I have two clones that were headed for flowering in a week that came from this plant. I don't THINK it came from stress, as I have 3 other strains in the same tent that were under the same conditions from start to finish. My question is: Should I just scrap those clones now, and move with plan B rather than wasting the 21-25 days to see if the same thing happens? Any reason to think that a genetic copy won't follow the same results in the same environment?

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Clones from hermie : * Hermie
* Male
* Female
They can be one of the three, not necessarily hermie

No, no young grasshopper.
They WILL hermie.

Goodbye

chairroller said:

Clones from hermie : * Hermie
* Male
* Female
They can be one of the three, not necessarily hermie

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I guess the scientific answer would probably be that it depends on the hormones that were present at the time of cloning??? I have two seedlings that are other strains as a back-up, so maybe I will risk the 3 weeks.

johnnyseed412 said:

No, no young grasshopper.
They WILL hermie.

Goodbye

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And again I vacillate... My initial thought, before getting differing opinion, is that since the clones inherit ALL characteristics from whence they came...my odds were that I shouldn't waste the time and space. I DO have a back-up plan, so waiting to see IS an option. I was just thinking it might be a TOTAL waste of time, since genetically there is usually only black and white. Do I sound crazy?...lol

Yes .. you have to try !

Man .. can't you try with new seeds ? .. Just start over Cheers !

I can. There is that whole tossing a plant in the trash after having it around for 45 days sadness, and I'd like to not do it unnecessarily. I am not desperate enough that I HAVE to keep them.

OK, so I will probably have to go with old Ed Rosenthal on this one...

"Hermaphrodites are not desirable candidates as either clone mothers or for breeding because they carry a genetic characteristic for hermaphroditism. The clones will bear male flowers. Crosses with pure females will result either in a mix of females and hermaphrodites or all hermaphrodites depending on whether the hermaphrodite has the characteristic on only one or both of the paired chromosomes.

I would probably dump the plant and use the light for better specimens. The plant is essentially a mule; it’s not going to be used for reproduction and the chance of at least some of the buds being ruined is high. I don’t think it’s worth the effort or frustration."

IF its a hermi then chuck it and the clones. There is big difference between a hermie and a female that tries to self polinate itself, one being a hermie will release WAY more pollen and do it pretty quickly. If you see balls it only takes one to pollinate a large area. A nanner or two isn't going to do that.

If your seeing a bunch of BALLS and FLOWERS in the first week or two of 12/12 it's a true hermie. A genetic female that thows 'nanners' isn't a hermie, females don't "hermie" late in flower, they try to self pollinate themselves due to an environmental stressor.

Squidbilly said:

IF its a hermi then chuck it and the clones. There is big difference between a hermie and a female that tries to self polinate itself, one being a hermie will release WAY more pollen and do it pretty quickly. If you see balls it only takes one to pollinate a large area. A nanner or two isn't going to do that.

If your seeing a bunch of BALLS and FLOWERS in the first week or two of 12/12 it's a true hermie. A genetic female that thows 'nanners' isn't a hermie, females don't "hermie" late in flower, they try to self pollinate themselves due to an environmental stressor.

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What he/she said Toss it for sure. Your clones will not become some miracle and suddenly be amazing and hermi free just because of the time you cut it or the type of hormones whatever. If it herms it will always herm unless due to environment, but if you think thats sound then why keep something that may herm from the most minor of abruptions.