First timer - Bubblicious, Blue Cheese, Dreatime

Thanks everyone (in advance) for checking out my very first grow. Some of you may recognize me from the threads i've created here at rollitup already, and now I think i'm ready to get started! Well, i'm actually already 1 week in but hey - nothing much happens in the first week... =)

Here's a list of what i'm growing and some details on my setup, etc...

Seeds:

3x Bubblicious - Nirvana
2x Dreamtime - Mr.NICE
1x Blue Cheese (feminized) - Barney's Farm

Medium:

Premier Promix HP - 80%
Perlite - 20%

Light:

400w MH w/batwing reflector

Location:

Indoors - spare bathroom - tub

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....as mentioned, I'm already 1 week in - i'll fill in here what I can from the first week....

- I ordered my seeds online from this site:

http://www.marijuana-seeds-canada.com/

- Seeds took just over 2 weeks to arrive, as they were shipped from the UK and i'm in Canada... I started with the above 6 seeds, but have a few more from this order for next time or if I have any accidents..

- Seeds were germinated in soaked paper-towel and placed in a folded kerchief (for darkness) on top of my computer sub-woofer speaker (warm).

- Germination took ~48 hrs - 100% germination, 6/6.

- Planted germ'd seeds into small 2" peat-moss cups and placed in plastic domed 'Jiffy starter kit' with a heating pad in the bottom. Watered the soil before and after planting.

- Placed under regular bathroom vanity light (24hr), and all seedlings broke surface within 2 days time.

- Removed plastic dome lid and placed tray with plants in white tub under the 400w MH. Placed small desk-fan beside the tray and set on low, blowing lightly on plants to build stem strength.

- Put humidifier in room near tub edge - the humidity is really low in the room and hard to keep above 35% when the light is on - when the light is off, it gets as high as 60% with the humidifier running.

I will add pictures of them soon - they've just turned 1 week old today since breaking surface.... please feel free to comment/crit - I can use any and all help!!

Okay here's a few pics from this evening...

Week 1 - Seed to seedling

Pic#1 - My growroom, the spare bathroom.

Pic#2 - Alice, my Bubblicious #1 seedling
Pic#3 - Barb, my Bubblicious #2 seedling
Pic#4 - Candy, my Bubblicious #3 seedling
Pic#5 - Doris, my Dreamtime #1 seedling
Pic#6 - Deb, my Dreamtime #2 seedling
Pic#7 - Beth, my Blue Cheese seedling (fem)

Once again, please take a close look and let me know any of your comments and suggestions.

I have them on a 19/5, light/dark cycle right now with the temperature ranging from 25 degrees C to 32 degrees C. It's difficult to keep the room humid right now, but it's keeping in the 35% to 60% range. The light really dries out the soil/cups, so i've been watering twice a day with pH'd down water at about 7.2 pH.

Dayzt said:

Okay here's a few pics from this evening...

Week 1 - Seed to seedling

Pic#1 - My growroom, the spare bathroom.

Pic#2 - Alice, my Bubblicious #1 seedling
Pic#3 - Barb, my Bubblicious #2 seedling
Pic#4 - Candy, my Bubblicious #3 seedling
Pic#5 - Doris, my Dreamtime #1 seedling
Pic#6 - Deb, my Dreamtime #2 seedling
Pic#7 - Beth, my Blue Cheese seedling (fem)

Once again, please take a close look and let me know any of your comments and suggestions.

I have them on a 19/5, light/dark cycle right now with the temperature ranging from 25 degrees C to 32 degrees C. It's difficult to keep the room humid right now, but it's keeping in the 35% to 60% range. The light really dries out the soil/cups, so i've been watering twice a day with pH'd down water at about 7.2 pH.

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Hi Dayzt, congrats on starting your grow, it looks very organized already so im sure you are going to do fine
I like it that you gave names to the plants, cause it helps follow the thread and not get confused between plants.

One thing I noticed from your pics is that they are bit too tall... they are stretching to reach the light. They should be shorter with bigger leaves. You have a 400W MH, thats plenty of power, you just need to get the light a lot closer, but at the same time make sure you dont burn them. A lot of people save electricity by just putting a few cfl when the plants are this young cause you can just stick the bulb almost right next to the seedling.. making sure they stay short and develop a lot of nodes... which is what you really want.

Im on my fist grow as well... I havent worried a lot about humidity. From what ive read, you really need t about humidity is if you have it too high since mold could grow on your buds and ruin your whole crop. The only time Ive heard you really have to worry about low humidity is when you are trying to clone, so the cuttings dont dry out, but for the veg stage you should be fine...

Subscribed to your journal, I´m really interested in that blue cheese

hey dayzt! looking good! i seen ur just starting def good space to do it. and started with good seeds. i shall follow if ya dont mind!

Tatan said:

Hi Dayzt, congrats on starting your grow, it looks very organized already so im sure you are going to do fine
I like it that you gave names to the plants, cause it helps follow the thread and not get confused between plants.

One thing I noticed from your pics is that they are bit too tall... they are stretching to reach the light. They should be shorter with bigger leaves. You have a 400W MH, thats plenty of power, you just need to get the light a lot closer, but at the same time make sure you dont burn them. A lot of people save electricity by just putting a few cfl when the plants are this young cause you can just stick the bulb almost right next to the seedling.. making sure they stay short and develop a lot of nodes... which is what you really want.

Im on my fist grow as well... I havent worried a lot about humidity. From what ive read, you really need t about humidity is if you have it too high since mold could grow on your buds and ruin your whole crop. The only time Ive heard you really have to worry about low humidity is when you are trying to clone, so the cuttings dont dry out, but for the veg stage you should be fine...

Subscribed to your journal, I´m really interested in that blue cheese

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Hey Tatan! Thanks for tuning in! I know there's a bit of a stretching issue going on with my babies... The problem I'm having is that my big light dries out the soil faster, the closer it is to them. I've been having to water them twice a day as it is due to them drying out so fast...lol...but I moved the light down closer last night for most of the light cycle - we'll see how they look today after the light comes on again (they're in the dark right now). I have them on a 19/5 cycle to save some electricity.

The new leaves are all getting bigger every day and they seem to all be a nice dark green (sign of good photosynthesis) and pointing 'up' which i've read is a good sign.

I have a small fan blowing across them constantly to keep them moving and make the stems strong - this adds to the dryness however...

I'm thinking of repotting them into my 6" pots this weekend though...what do you think? Should I repot now or wait until they reach the 2 week point??

....updated pictures coming this evening. Stay tuned!!!!

growforgood904 said:

hey dayzt! looking good! i seen ur just starting def good space to do it. and started with good seeds. i shall follow if ya dont mind!

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Thanks alot GFG! Great to see you're watching... any advice or comments are welcome - good OR bad... I can use any help and/or suggestions!

for sure !! my first time so u could poss help me too. until then blessings be upon u!

Dayzt said:

Hey Tatan! Thanks for tuning in! I know there's a bit of a stretching issue going on with my babies... The problem I'm having is that my big light dries out the soil faster, the closer it is to them. I've been having to water them twice a day as it is due to them drying out so fast...lol...but I moved the light down closer last night for most of the light cycle - we'll see how they look today after the light comes on again (they're in the dark right now). I have them on a 19/5 cycle to save some electricity.

The new leaves are all getting bigger every day and they seem to all be a nice dark green (sign of good photosynthesis) and pointing 'up' which i've read is a good sign.

I have a small fan blowing across them constantly to keep them moving and make the stems strong - this adds to the dryness however...

I'm thinking of repotting them into my 6" pots this weekend though...what do you think? Should I repot now or wait until they reach the 2 week point??

....updated pictures coming this evening. Stay tuned!!!!

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Heya Dayzt,
I would say wait to repot them. You want them plant to fill out the current container a little before repotting, ive read that it helps the roots use the soil better in the next container.

Tatan said:

Heya Dayzt,
I would say wait to repot them. You want them plant to fill out the current container a little before repotting, ive read that it helps the roots use the soil better in the next container.

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Hmmmm....ya i've read that too. It's usually around the 2 week mark I think. The reason I was thinking of repotting early was because of the initial stretching - that way I can bury the long stem under soil and avoid them from toppling over before they are 2 weeks old.... thoughts?

Dayzt said:

Hmmmm....ya i've read that too. It's usually around the 2 week mark I think. The reason I was thinking of repotting early was because of the initial stretching - that way I can bury the long stem under soil and avoid them from toppling over before they are 2 weeks old.... thoughts?

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I dont know... what you are saying sounds right.. but I was going to say no to repot now especially seeing how fragile they look, but if you plan on burying the stem a little, that should be fine...

Tatan said:

I dont know... what you are saying sounds right.. but I was going to say no to repot now especially seeing how fragile they look, but if you plan on burying the stem a little, that should be fine...

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Okay, well we'll see - only 2-3 of them are/were stretching and now I think they've stopped. I'll just keep a close eye on them this next week and I can just add a bit of soil to the top to support it if needed.

I kinda wish i'd used some of those tall plastic cups like GFG did to start, so the roots have more room to grow down...

Dayzt said:

Okay, well we'll see - only 2-3 of them are/were stretching and now I think they've stopped. I'll just keep a close eye on them this next week and I can just add a bit of soil to the top to support it if needed.

I kinda wish i'd used some of those tall plastic cups like GFG did to start, so the roots have more room to grow down...

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I think its just the nature of starting your grow on MH... but I think you are going to be fine. Also since they stopped stretching so much they wilñ also start getting fatter stems.

Picture Update!!!

Here are the kids at approximately 9 days from sprouting (1 week 2 days).

Pic #1 - Beth (Blue Cheese -femin.)

Pic #2 - Alice (Bubblicious - Nirvana)

Pic #3 - Barb (Bubblicious - Nirvana)

Pic #4 - Candy (Bubblicious - Nirvana)

Pic #5 - Doris (Dreamtime - Mr.NICE)

Pic #6 - Deb (Dreamtime - Mr.NICE)

Hey Dayzt those babies look good!! since they are not as big as the 20oz cups i wld prob just transplant a lil sooner! . but i am very new to this this is just a suggestion. but they look fine.

Thanks GFG.... I'm starting to get a bit worried that they are coming up kinda slow.... the stems don't appear to be getting thicker yet - should I be concerned? There is still continuous leaf growth though, so at least it hasn't come to a complete stop... I agree though, I think i'm going to repot these this week sometime. I'm also considering peeling off the peat cups from around the soil - I know the roots grow through it, but I just want to make it as easy for them as I can....suggestions?

Once there's a bit more growth, I plan to surround them with mylar as well, to reflect light on the sides back onto the plants. I seem to be having some major problems with heat as it can reach up to 95 degrees F with the light on. My 400w MH doesn't have an enclosure, so it puts off alot of heat - the plants don't seem to be effected, but i'm worried about how hot it gets down there...

More updated pics coming on Wednesday of this coming week! I may actually repot that day before and after I take the updated pics...

95 degrees is a little hot. Also I wouldnt woeey that much about the stems not getting thicker yet, you want your leaves getting bigger. I think the next few days will us how your will will develop.

Tatan said:

95 degrees is a little hot. Also I wouldnt woeey that much about the stems not getting thicker yet, you want your leaves getting bigger. I think the next few days will us how your will will develop.

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I agree it's a bit hot - i'm going to try and work something so there's a fan blowing at the light I think.... maybe that will help the temps.

The next few days will determine alot - agreed. So far though, it's looking like i'm going to be repotting on Wednesday or Thursday - need to bury those stems and give them some soil that can retain moisture a bit better so they can last under that light longer without drying out so fast....

ANd dayzt dont worry bout the smal stem mine is that way and is pretty normal. they should pick up the bulk by the first month

growforgood904 said:

ANd dayzt dont worry bout the smal stem mine is that way and is pretty normal. they should pick up the bulk by the first month

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Okay, maybe it's me just being paranoid but I thought i'd post a few more close-up pics tonight and see if there's anything that anyone can see wrong with these seedlings - I still think I'm doing something wrong as they appear to be growing extra slow.... please take a look and let me know what you think. Repotting will likely get bumped up a day and take place tomorrow night...

Oh ya, there's usually not water standing that deep in the tray like that - it was cleaned up after the pics...

Pic #1 & #2 - all of the kids, close-ups
Pic #3 - close-up of Deb - a really wierd leaf pattern - odd strain? It's 'Dreamtime' which is supposed to be either NL, Afghani or Haze....

Dayzt said:

Okay, maybe it's me just being paranoid but I thought i'd post a few more close-up pics tonight and see if there's anything that anyone can see wrong with these seedlings - I still think I'm doing something wrong as they appear to be growing extra slow.... please take a look and let me know what you think. Repotting will likely get bumped up a day and take place tomorrow night...

Oh ya, there's usually not water standing that deep in the tray like that - it was cleaned up after the pics...

Pic #1 & #2 - all of the kids, close-ups
Pic #3 - close-up of Deb - a really wierd leaf pattern - odd strain? It's 'Dreamtime' which is supposed to be either NL, Afghani or Haze....

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From the pics.. it just looks like the extra stretching they had. They should start getting fatter, but remember what counts now are the leaves.