First time vertical grow

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El Duderino...

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Hi Guys just wanted to introduce myself here on the Forum. I'm a relative noob when it comes to growing, but have been helping out a couple of friends of mine for the past six months who are advanced growers. We have decided to setup and attempt a vertical grow and are looking for any feedback, tips and help on the setup we will be using. Here are some of the specs on the setup we will be rolling with:

Strain: is a cross Super skunk from sensi and Recon from DNA genetics Amsterdam. My friend grew SS for several years and crossed it with a make RECON.

PLANTS: 32, in a vertical two shelf set up. CURRENTLY Plants at week 3 Veg from seed

ROOM SIZE: 9 ft high x 9 ft wide x 11 ft long.

LIGHTS: 3 x 1000 watt HPS Sylvania bulb, Lumatek Digital ballast, in a vertical Cool tube setup intake blowing in and another is extracting. Will consider adding another 800 watts once we work out where its needed either to the top or bottom of vert.

FANS: 1x 8 inch intake centrifugal fan, Out take 2 x 6 inch fans with two filters attached, also one oscillating fan and will get another 16-18inch to push/move air from the floor upwards.

GROW MEDIUM: Clay balls, with 3 inch rock wool cubes

BUCKET SIZE: 4.4 gallons, 11 inches high

SHELF SYSTEM: two shelf sytem in an octagonal shape, first shelf at 14.9 inches, SECOND shelf at 54.3 inches from the floor. Built with 2.7 x 1.3 inch pine, shelf is made with ¾ inch chipboard, attached with 3 inch nails. Half of the octagonal has castors wheels on it so they can move.
FEED: every 3 hours top feed , flow is for continuous 5 minutes

FEED TYPE: Vegetative grow A and B, nitrozyme, (enzyme additive) regenaroot (root additive)

NUTRIENT TANKS: 4 x 20 gallon tanks, split into pairs feeding 16 plants each pair.
PUMP: initially started with two but they didn’t have enough power so had to add another two... (sorry don’t have the output of these)

Here are a few pics of the setup taken 2 weeks ago.




 
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El Duderino...

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Hi y'all, just wanted to give you a quick update on how things are moving along in the room, and get a few updated pics of the room up. Now in week 5 Veg and hoping to attach a screen this week, I have purchased some 4x4 inch plastic wire. Does anyone know if this is a suitable size from there past experiences? I will be attaching wire screen from hooks on each bay around 8-10 inches from the lip of the buckets. As far as pruning goes was thinking about beginning to prune shaded bud sites that are not any receiving much light towards the back of the plants (back popping?). although I'm a little hesitant to start pruning as there is quite a mix of plant sizes as they were grown from seed. Anyone shed any light on when is a good time to start pruning and bending these girls. any feed back mucho appreciatedthe dude
 
smoke and coke

smoke and coke

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looks great. i would start some lst on them now since your only in week 5 of veg. this will help fill in the holes. i wouldnt prune anything right now because you should be able to tie some of the back to the front into the light. also when you tie your top over, it will also allow more light to the back. later on you may need to prune some of the lower back suckers and not have to take a whole branch out.
 
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El Duderino...

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smoke and coke said:
looks great. i would start some lst on them now since your only in week 5 of veg. this will help fill in the holes. i wouldnt prune anything right now because you should be able to tie some of the back to the front into the light. also when you tie your top over, it will also allow more light to the back. later on you may need to prune some of the lower back suckers and not have to take a whole branch out.
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Hey OG,


sorry bout the slow reply i ve been working lots and trying to get things done and taken care of. But im back :)
Since the last post things are looking on the up ive builit the net which hangs infront of the whole octagon, the holes that were present have now been filled in, flipped to 12/12 last week and as i and my mate expected they have started to stretch.

we are thinking of backpopping and lollypopping at the end of week 2 flower once the stretch has finished, got more time on my hands will post some pics in the next two days

thanks the help
 
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El Duderino...

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OGEvilgenius said:
Lookin promising, still vegging? A lot of your canopy has holes. I like the build though.
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Hey OG,


ended up veging to 6 weeks, they have filled out the canopy nicely. Planning to back pop and lollypop end of next week when they have stopped stretching!

Thanks for the help!

Elduderino
 
DST

DST

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Interested to see pics with the screen. I started using a screen behind the plants as they will all start to lean into the light as they grow. Tying them back provides more resistance and seems to enhance growth.
Good luck, nioce set up.

Peace, DST

p.s what size of cool tube are they?
 
kana

kana

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im subd for this, a method i have been thinking about for a while, dont let me down and stop updating the thread! lol
 
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miduswell1

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hey how goes it?im new to the forum.my question is this,is vertical growing more cost affective?i have experience with outdoor grows,currently im working my own indoor,so im just looking for a cost efective option.
 
smoke and coke

smoke and coke

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miduswell1 said:
hey how goes it?im new to the forum.my question is this,is vertical growing more cost affective?i have experience with outdoor grows,currently im working my own indoor,so im just looking for a cost efective option.
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here is a pic that could be very effective if done properly. i use a 400w for a vert. stadium but a 600w would be better. and for a vertical i would say a 1000w. maybe 2 if you have the ceiling height to grow trees or you have many smaller plants on shelves.

but you also need to factor in veg. time to be able to fill the room. much longer veg. to use less plants but taller to maximize the vertical height.

 
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El Duderino...

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Hi guys so here are a few updated photos of the room. The plan is to start bending and training the girls in a couple of weeks when they have finished there stretch. hoping to bend the bottom half of the top plants down so they will be meeting the top half of the bottom to create that SOG. planning to use cable ties to attach to the net to hold those branches in place. Have also started removing smaller branches from the back side of the plants that have no chance of being bent through the net towards the lights. Sorry for the shitty quality iPhone pics, will try to use a digi for the next update. Also took around 40 clones from the stronger healthier plants before switching to 12/12, have all rooted nicely now. The canopy still has some holes in it, as the plants suffered an N-deficiency in week 4 veg, and took some time to recover.


The Dude


 
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El Duderino...

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DST said:
Interested to see pics with the screen. I started using a screen behind the plants as they will all start to lean into the light as they grow. Tying them back provides more resistance and seems to enhance growth.
Good luck, nioce set up.

Peace, DST

p.s what size of cool tube are they?
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Hi DST just posted a few updated pics with the screen. what did you use to tie back your plants? we were thinking of using cable ties loosely attached to a screen square and branch. think this would be suitable? yeah they definitely reaching for that light now! The cool tubes are 800mm I think, we cut 40mm off each one so we could fit them stacked up on one another in the room.

Dude
 
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