First Time I Smoked Salvia..NEVER AGAIN

Microdizzey

Well-Known Member
I do enjoy what Salvia produces, does that mean I'm abusing it?
Am I a stupid human for being curious about the weird dimensions Salvia puts you in?

Oh well. Call it psychonaut or whatever you want, these psychedelics have a purpose and I would like to know what it is. :)

Is it coincidence that I feel connected to everyone and everything when I'm tripping?
 

chimayo

Active Member
For those of you who dont know, saliva divinorum is the most powerful hallucinogen on earth- best advice ever right here- respect the powers or 'spirits' of any natural substance because it does have more power than you... ive investigated and asked many people about their trips on salvia and none seem to compare to my intense sidestepping universal experiences. yadda yadda i once flew through a tube- a stripe really in a couch that landed me in another dimension where i met henry where we sat on a huge couch staring at a clock on the wall. he told me how his mom was coming home soon and that she would not be happy to see me there- ive been back to this place and the 'people' there always look the same- floating black wavy hair, white white skin and black x's for eyes- also they communicate by means of telepathy. only one other person described the same people and place to me but we had also experienced intense esoteric experiences together on shrooms... during a sober time, i had a dream where lady salvia- a lady in a white glowing dress who is the spirit of the plant- came to me and essentially told me the future. it became hard to ignore the reality. i can actually meditate, smoke salvia, and receive specific answers to life questions. alright... this rant doesnt even to begin to truly express what im trying to say-

when taken seriously, salvia is an amazing mediator- if it likes you. and when used while meditating, your trip can last for hours.

and no- there are no such thing as a coincidences- you feel connected because we really are connected.
 

xbravoz

Well-Known Member
Try not to fight it. Most people spend their whole Salvia trip trying to fight off the feelings it gives you. You really have to calm yourself down, maybe meditate before you use it. Then, lay back in a silent dark room, smoke a bowl, close your eyes, and go with the flow.

I am pretty sure a bad trip has a lot to do with how calm you are before, and if your eyes are open or closed. When you keep your eyes open it's like your brain is trying so hard to figure out what is really happening, you start going mad. When you close your eyes everything will be clear, noise will interfear with your trip also(you might think someone is talking to you).

And always have someone watch you:peace:
sounds like some scary $hiot this salvia....I think i'll just say no to this one
 

xbravoz

Well-Known Member
For those of you who dont know, saliva divinorum is the most powerful hallucinogen on earth- best advice ever right here- respect the powers or 'spirits' of any natural substance because it does have more power than you... ive investigated and asked many people about their trips on salvia and none seem to compare to my intense sidestepping universal experiences. yadda yadda i once flew through a tube- a stripe really in a couch that landed me in another dimension where i met henry where we sat on a huge couch staring at a clock on the wall. he told me how his mom was coming home soon and that she would not be happy to see me there- ive been back to this place and the 'people' there always look the same- floating black wavy hair, white white skin and black x's for eyes- also they communicate by means of telepathy. only one other person described the same people and place to me but we had also experienced intense esoteric experiences together on shrooms... during a sober time, i had a dream where lady salvia- a lady in a white glowing dress who is the spirit of the plant- came to me and essentially told me the future. it became hard to ignore the reality. i can actually meditate, smoke salvia, and receive specific answers to life questions. alright... this rant doesnt even to begin to truly express what im trying to say-

when taken seriously, salvia is an amazing mediator- if it likes you. and when used while meditating, your trip can last for hours.

and no- there are no such thing as a coincidences- you feel connected because we really are connected.
Man this guy should be writing science fiction books.....lol
 

IggyZag

Well-Known Member
Yea, that is what it sounds like to me...but honestly if you were tripping and seeing these people, wouldnt it make like more sense to say you were tripping and seeing things non realistic because its what the herb does to you, I dont believe myself that you went to "another dimension" or another life, you were simply day dreaming it all, thats really what any psychadelic does is make us day dream hardcore...dreams are not real, is what was predicted did it come true? Honestly ( I am not being mean or harsh) but the reason you and only one other has been to that dimension and knows what one another is talking about is probably because the salvia is messing with your mind because there is something that could be wrong..who knows you could be schizophrenic..psychadelics would only make things worse and hit harder and way more different then to anyone else...No offence I am just giving my two cents..
 

IggyZag

Well-Known Member
Also im not stating your crazy or schizo, but you never know..something in your mind when mixed with salvia may trigger things like that..
 

xbravoz

Well-Known Member
I was curious after reading these threads and searched you tube for salvia....Countless clips of people trippin hard on that shit!!!....The first time I took ecstasy I felt nothin for about 45 min and then over a 10 min period I went from nothing to full on rollin....That scared me for a while but I was with the right people (E-Peeps) and soon started to enjoy the trip....this salvia thing sounds way too extreme...completely disconected from reality...seeing shit that aint realy there...Fuck that!!!!
 

6isafraidof7

New Member
I have tried to smoke salvia at least 10 times with no effect it's like i am immune to it. Most of my friends say you just feel like your falling. If your sitting on a couch you feel like your just falling / melting through it. I have had friends say they lose complete reality for like minutes. No one I know has really ever had after effects that lasted more then 5-7 minutes..
 

bearo420

Well-Known Member
surprised noone mentioned it.

Dont get the greenish salvia leaf. Matter of fact dont buy any leaf or just salvia.
Only buy extract. should be tiny black specs of leafy matter. Black dust and black consistency. Extract will give you visuals.

Now I shouldnt even have to say this. But if you want to see shit you gotta be a man. Suck on that fuckin bong or bowl knowing you want to take a hit big enough to destroy your brain for a minute. no pussy hit. hit hard, not to the point of coughing cause then it doesnt hit you right either and you start all teary eyed and angry but take a nice big ass hit, and hold it literally as long as you can without once again coughing. Release slowly and by the time you finish your exhale the vibration or movement feeling should kick in then its up to you on visuals.

It shouldnt be lit by anything less than A BLOW TORCH LIGHTER

Dont smoke it in anything rolled. Your wasting it seriously. A joint blunt or whatever you want to roll does not burn at a high enough temperature.

Salvia needs a very high temperature to release the good stuff correctly. So if you have a pencil torch perfect. If not go to smoke shop and get lighter that is mini torch, not a flame. You shouldnt spend more than $5 bucks in most places for a lighter like this.

Pencil torch or torch lighter.
Bong or bowl. Bong is obviously gonna hit harder and longer.
Salvia Extract not leaf!
Hit as hard as you can. Hold as long as you can. DOnt cough.
 

Microdizzey

Well-Known Member
For those of you who dont know, saliva divinorum is the most powerful hallucinogen on earth- best advice ever right here- respect the powers or 'spirits' of any natural substance because it does have more power than you... ive investigated and asked many people about their trips on salvia and none seem to compare to my intense sidestepping universal experiences. yadda yadda i once flew through a tube- a stripe really in a couch that landed me in another dimension where i met henry where we sat on a huge couch staring at a clock on the wall. he told me how his mom was coming home soon and that she would not be happy to see me there- ive been back to this place and the 'people' there always look the same- floating black wavy hair, white white skin and black x's for eyes- also they communicate by means of telepathy. only one other person described the same people and place to me but we had also experienced intense esoteric experiences together on shrooms... during a sober time, i had a dream where lady salvia- a lady in a white glowing dress who is the spirit of the plant- came to me and essentially told me the future. it became hard to ignore the reality. i can actually meditate, smoke salvia, and receive specific answers to life questions. alright... this rant doesnt even to begin to truly express what im trying to say-

when taken seriously, salvia is an amazing mediator- if it likes you. and when used while meditating, your trip can last for hours.

and no- there are no such thing as a coincidences- you feel connected because we really are connected.
This is what I'm talking about man.

I think we're viewing the universe as it really is when we have a saliva trip, instead of being blind from the only reality our minds/bodies are use to.

A good example would be the matrix. Living in a world we know as reality, yet this is only an image projected to us from someone or something behind the curtains. When you smoke saliva or DMT, you view different reality's, instead of the one we are use to.

Just a thought, kinda far out but, it's interesting to think about.
:peace:
 

marcnh

Well-Known Member
For those of you who dont know, saliva divinorum is the most powerful hallucinogen on earth- best advice ever right here- respect the powers or 'spirits' of any natural substance because it does have more power than you... ive investigated and asked many people about their trips on salvia and none seem to compare to my intense sidestepping universal experiences. yadda yadda i once flew through a tube- a stripe really in a couch that landed me in another dimension where i met henry where we sat on a huge couch staring at a clock on the wall. he told me how his mom was coming home soon and that she would not be happy to see me there- ive been back to this place and the 'people' there always look the same- floating black wavy hair, white white skin and black x's for eyes- also they communicate by means of telepathy. only one other person described the same people and place to me but we had also experienced intense esoteric experiences together on shrooms... during a sober time, i had a dream where lady salvia- a lady in a white glowing dress who is the spirit of the plant- came to me and essentially told me the future. it became hard to ignore the reality. i can actually meditate, smoke salvia, and receive specific answers to life questions. alright... this rant doesnt even to begin to truly express what im trying to say-

when taken seriously, salvia is an amazing mediator- if it likes you. and when used while meditating, your trip can last for hours.

and no- there are no such thing as a coincidences- you feel connected because we really are connected.
No one can say that he wasn't there or was there. I have to think he was there.
Unfortunately when I had a 30 minute trip, I could only remember the beginning and the end of it. My sitter said I just kept sitting there looking around saying wow, wow, wow. She said I didn't look freaked out at all, totally calm. What a bummer I can't remember! This was my 4th time doing it. Next time I won't be on alcohol or bud. Ok, maybe bud lol.
It's also worth mentioning that I have not ever felt the sweats that others mention. Could this have to do with the terror some felt? In the most stressed out times of my life, I would feel like my nerves are shot (very unpleasent tingling sensation) and have cold sweats. One time my nerves felt this way for days. (before I took salvia)
And last, I read on wiki that scientists put salvia nad cocaine side by side and gave the rats a choice. They chose the salvia. So, it should be looked into that salvia could help people get off of these horrible drugs like meth, heroine, ect.
I never go the bad taste either. I bought this 20x peach flavor. I would like to try a different brand to see if it has different effects as mj does with different strains. I'm also going to stock up before it becomes illegal.
Can anyone recommend a good seller from ebay?
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
surprised noone mentioned it.

Dont get the greenish salvia leaf. Matter of fact dont buy any leaf or just salvia.
Only buy extract. should be tiny black specs of leafy matter. Black dust and black consistency. Extract will give you visuals.

Now I shouldnt even have to say this. But if you want to see shit you gotta be a man. Suck on that fuckin bong or bowl knowing you want to take a hit big enough to destroy your brain for a minute. no pussy hit. hit hard, not to the point of coughing cause then it doesnt hit you right either and you start all teary eyed and angry but take a nice big ass hit, and hold it literally as long as you can without once again coughing. Release slowly and by the time you finish your exhale the vibration or movement feeling should kick in then its up to you on visuals.

It shouldnt be lit by anything less than A BLOW TORCH LIGHTER

Dont smoke it in anything rolled. Your wasting it seriously. A joint blunt or whatever you want to roll does not burn at a high enough temperature.

Salvia needs a very high temperature to release the good stuff correctly. So if you have a pencil torch perfect. If not go to smoke shop and get lighter that is mini torch, not a flame. You shouldnt spend more than $5 bucks in most places for a lighter like this.

Pencil torch or torch lighter.
Bong or bowl. Bong is obviously gonna hit harder and longer.
Salvia Extract not leaf!
Hit as hard as you can. Hold as long as you can. DOnt cough.
You only need the blow torch type lighter when trying to vaporize pure salvorin! This is the beauty of a standardized extract.
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
This is what I'm talking about man.

I think we're viewing the universe as it really is when we have a saliva trip, instead of being blind from the only reality our minds/bodies are use to.

A good example would be the matrix. Living in a world we know as reality, yet this is only an image projected to us from someone or something behind the curtains. When you smoke saliva or DMT, you view different reality's, instead of the one we are use to.

Just a thought, kinda far out but, it's interesting to think about.
:peace:
I once heard or read something, I can not remember where. Something about when Euoropean ships first came to America. I heard none of the Indians noticed the ship because their mind couldn't comprehend something of that nature(the huge ships). Their Shaman or Chief noticed the water was flowing different. Then, he saw the ships. He then explained what he saw and everyone then noticed the ships.
 

6isafraidof7

New Member
No one can say that he wasn't there or was there. I have to think he was there.
Unfortunately when I had a 30 minute trip, I could only remember the beginning and the end of it. My sitter said I just kept sitting there looking around saying wow, wow, wow. She said I didn't look freaked out at all, totally calm. What a bummer I can't remember! This was my 4th time doing it. Next time I won't be on alcohol or bud. Ok, maybe bud lol.
It's also worth mentioning that I have not ever felt the sweats that others mention. Could this have to do with the terror some felt? In the most stressed out times of my life, I would feel like my nerves are shot (very unpleasent tingling sensation) and have cold sweats. One time my nerves felt this way for days. (before I took salvia)
And last, I read on wiki that scientists put salvia nad cocaine side by side and gave the rats a choice. They chose the salvia. So, it should be looked into that salvia could help people get off of these horrible drugs like meth, heroine, ect.
I never go the bad taste either. I bought this 20x peach flavor. I would like to try a different brand to see if it has different effects as marijuana does with different strains. I'm also going to stock up before it becomes illegal.
Can anyone recommend a good seller from ebay?

Make a road trip to downtown chicago.. they sell the good salvia at like any head shop..
 

Microdizzey

Well-Known Member
I once heard or read something, I can not remember where. Something about when Euoropean ships first came to America. I heard none of the Indians noticed the ship because their mind couldn't comprehend something of that nature(the huge ships). Their Shaman or Chief noticed the water was flowing different. Then, he saw the ships. He then explained what he saw and everyone then noticed the ships.
Yea it's crazy how the mind works.
I read this thing on the net about some guy getting hypnotized and being told that a person standing near him wasn't there. When he was awoken (sp?) he didn't see the guy standing there. The 'invisible' guy would walk around and pick up stuff, and the person who was hypnotized could only see objects magically floating around and stuff.

Makes ya think don't it?
Ghosts? Angels? God? Aliens? Government spies?
Haha :peace:
 

tokeybear

Active Member
For those of you who dont know, saliva divinorum is the most powerful hallucinogen on earth- best advice ever right here- respect the powers or 'spirits' of any natural substance because it does have more power than you... ive investigated and asked many people about their trips on salvia and none seem to compare to my intense sidestepping universal experiences. yadda yadda i once flew through a tube- a stripe really in a couch that landed me in another dimension where i met henry where we sat on a huge couch staring at a clock on the wall. he told me how his mom was coming home soon and that she would not be happy to see me there- ive been back to this place and the 'people' there always look the same- floating black wavy hair, white white skin and black x's for eyes- also they communicate by means of telepathy. only one other person described the same people and place to me but we had also experienced intense esoteric experiences together on shrooms... during a sober time, i had a dream where lady salvia- a lady in a white glowing dress who is the spirit of the plant- came to me and essentially told me the future. it became hard to ignore the reality. i can actually meditate, smoke salvia, and receive specific answers to life questions. alright... this rant doesnt even to begin to truly express what im trying to say-

when taken seriously, salvia is an amazing mediator- if it likes you. and when used while meditating, your trip can last for hours.

and no- there are no such thing as a coincidences- you feel connected because we really are connected.

I've seen the same thing, only she was called "mother salvia" and she told me she was protecting and watching over me, and I felt the most intense feelings of love for salvia. I have salvia plants and the love seemed to radiate all around them. She told me to be kind and caring, and in return she would allow us both to grow and prosper. I didn't smoke it, i chewed 2 leaves that she gave to me that day. I like salvia a lot, I learned to stop trying to control everything, and be at peace with myself. Salvia just isnt for everyone.
 

tokeybear

Active Member
I once heard or read something, I can not remember where. Something about when Euoropean ships first came to America. I heard none of the Indians noticed the ship because their mind couldn't comprehend something of that nature(the huge ships). Their Shaman or Chief noticed the water was flowing different. Then, he saw the ships. He then explained what he saw and everyone then noticed the ships.

oh yeah dude! thats from the film "What the Bleep do we know" Thats a great movie.
 
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