First time grower, experimenting with CFL and Sterilite Box

Hello So I did a lot of shit and was too lazy to post anything until now. I was going to last night but my neighbor convinced me to drink and we got smashed . I don't usually drink but peer pressure is a mutha. Anyway...

I decided to go ahead and flip to 12/12. I read in a lot of places that you should wait until the screen mostly fills and then start...but I think my conditions are a little bit different considering the space I'm working with. There isn't much screen to begin with and I know these plants are going to stretch like hell (I have a potty mouth when hungover) so I figured I would flip and see what happens.

I added some Y splitters and three 2700k 26watt lights. I would have liked to have one high wattage 2700k but am broke, so this is what we're going with.



Also, I attempted to take 2 clones of skunk and a clone of the kush. They are doing well so far. I'm keeping them in the seed starter setup I got from wal-mart for like 5 bucks. Hopefully I'll see some roots coming out the bottom in a week or two. The two skunk clones are grouped together and the kush clone is a space apart. (There is a plastic dome that covers them, but I took it off for the pic.) By the way, I didn't use any rooting gel at all. I have read from several people who have done it successfully without the added hormones...after all, what did people use back in the day when there wasn't any gel? I made sure to split the bottom of the stem about 1cm with the razor blade, and I also scrapped at the sides of the bottom to help stimulate roots. I sucked at the bottom of the stem (someone mentioned they do this to get any air bubbles out) and then immediately put them in the moistened seed starter medium.



It doesn't seem like FIMing the kush did anything except delay growth. Maybe I didn't do it right, maybe Kush doesn't take to Fimming. I don't know, whatever. I'll try it again some other day on some other plant. I ended up supercropping the stem a couple days ago. I probably should have waited a little bit after taking clones but I didn't want to super crop a ways into the flowering period. It doesn't seemed to have fazed the Kush...she was bent over for a day and then starting growing right back up to the light lol. Just looks like a little kink her stem. Again, maybe I didn't do it right, maybe she is just a beast and laughing at my attempts to train her...I don't know, whatever. It's been a week since I fimmed and this is what the site looks like:



I don't have any bloom nutes...pretty lame. I am thinking about using the urine method again for flowering as I have seen several grows that have successfully used it for vegetation and flowering. Haven't decided, but today used the FF while I do some research and decide. So here is what we are looking like...



You can tell that the plants are pushing up the screen in the middle...kinda hard to get that part tight. But I'm just waiting for the auxins to get long enough and I'll just zip tie them to the screen. So yea, feel free to comment, give advice, tell me how I'm messing shit up...



***I got my ages mixed up on the plants, Skunk is day 27 and the Kush is day 26***

Lookin' good lady, and yea. Thats fimming id helps slow a plant down and start shootin' out side branches. While still being able to grow vertical. What were your intentions. If you were trying to bush them out. Do some research, pick a spot and super crop em.

Yup I wanted to make the kush bushier and slow down the top since it was outgrowing the skunk vertically...my understanding was that actual site I fimmed would turn into 4 auxins but maybe I understood fimming wrong. But I have def noticed the auxins below are now reaching up to the screen so I don't really see it as a failure...I just didn't know what to expect haha. I was going to supercrop...but I really don't want to do that during flowering. This is the 4th day of flower now. I don't want to stress the plants out. Only low stress training from here on out.

Hey ms. J
Looks pretty good in here

I'll stick around and offer advise where I can

Awesome, glad to have you here!!

Though they are in 12/12 tthey do not look to be flowering. Super cropping will only benefit what your trying to do. they will be fine if u choose too, just dont be too rough. Personally i just pinch the stem til it gives a little, but i have bent them over and pop the stem.

What part are you talking about supercropping?? I already supercropped the main stem of the kush (bent over until I heard the snap) and fastened it to my screen with a zip tie...it grew right back up to the light, just has a little kink in it. That was a couple days ago...don't really want to supercrop it again so soon, and main auxin is now growing towards the section of the screen that I want it to.

TrynaGroSumShyt said:

Though they are in 12/12 tthey do not look to be flowering.

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My bad, I keep forgetting that the plant isn't considered to be flowering until it shows it's sex. Meant that this is 4th day of 12/12, not flowering.

Lady.J said:

Hello So I did a lot of shit and was too lazy to post anything until now. I was going to last night but my neighbor convinced me to drink and we got smashed . I don't usually drink but peer pressure is a mutha. Anyway...

I decided to go ahead and flip to 12/12. I read in a lot of places that you should wait until the screen mostly fills and then start...but I think my conditions are a little bit different considering the space I'm working with. There isn't much screen to begin with and I know these plants are going to stretch like hell (I have a potty mouth when hungover) so I figured I would flip and see what happens.

I added some Y splitters and three 2700k 26watt lights. I would have liked to have one high wattage 2700k but am broke, so this is what we're going with.

You can tell that the plants are pushing up the screen in the middle...kinda hard to get that part tight. But I'm just waiting for the auxins to get long enough and I'll just zip tie them to the screen. So yea, feel free to comment, give advice, tell me how I'm messing shit up...

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if you fim'ed and are using a scrog, you probably should've kept em in veg longer. but you are right, you are limited on height. i'd maybe keep the color spectrum more biased towards the 6500k spectrum; since even though it's in 'flower' the first few weeks are when they stretch a lot. the 6500k spectrum supposedly helps reduce it. i'd ease into the 2700k spectrum once pistils start to show and buds are starting to actually form.

and just another thing, auxins are the chemicals that basically trigger growth in the apical tip.. i think what you're talking about are the lower budsites? from what i've seen, any little bit of lst/scrog seems to really improve bud production from the lower branches. not tryin to be a dick, just lettin' ya know. and i don't know what the 'proper' term is anyways...haha

Haha yea I must have been using the term wrong, when I was saying auxins I meant the lower apical tips (lower bud sites, same thing right?). I guess it's a good thing that my lights are favoring the 6500k part of the spectrum since you say it might help reduce stretching. And yup, I know a scrog improves bud production from the lower branches, which is why I chose to go that route. Honestly, I think I could have grown vertical if I had flowered sooner, but when I started reading that scrog doubles bud production, knew had to go that route. Thank you for taking the time to say something I appreciate being taught the correct information so don't think you're a dick!

Tightened up the screen by placing a few more sticks and fastening them to the loose parts of screen with zip ties. Also took the growing tips from the lower branches and was able to guide them through their own squares after tightening. Looks a lot better in my opinion... more cleaned up, and more like a scrog!

You can suprcrop every branch if you want. Makes em all thick nd strong. Oh and before rooting gels and powders, people would take a small branch/twig of a willow tree and steep in water for up to a day, then put their cuttings into that before potting. It has a natural Rooting hormone. Also, chewing on willow branches can help aleviate toothaches and headaches.

Theowl said:

You can suprcrop every branch if you want. Makes em all thick nd strong. Oh and before rooting gels and powders, people would take a small branch/twig of a willow tree and steep in water for up to a day, then put their cuttings into that before potting. It has a natural Rooting hormone. Also, chewing on willow branches can help aleviate toothaches and headaches.

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Yea but not everyone has / had a weeping willow, especially not me lol. I read about that too as a cloning method, but have nothing but water so making it work with that. Hopefully it works out. I don't think I'm going to supercrop...only because I think the flowers will start showing any day now and I don't want the plants to have to worry about any kind of healing. Also, if I didn't have a scrog I'd probably supercrop, but since the screen will help hold up the buds am not too concerned with the branches needing to be real strong.

No worries Lady, just passing the info so the pond doesn't stagnate..

Any willow will do.

As to the just water cloning, that should work well for you. Just either change the water very day or so, or find a way to aerate it. Shaking the jug when doing a water change can aerate it that way.

Anyway, you're a smart one, so you'll figure your own plan regardless of input. But I am a firm believer of "the more we know..."

Nah don't get me wrong, I appreciate it. I know I might come off as defensive but ignore me, I'm all about the knowledge! Sometimes I don't convey how I feel properly on this forum . I wish I knew more about willows or I'd go hunting around this forest by my house lol. I have the clones in soil for now...found out about the water method after and didn't want to risk shocking them anymore than they've already been. I'm a worry-wart in case you haven't noticed They have a catch tray underneath them...do you think I should change that water daily?

I wouldn't keep the soil saturated, just moist. So there should be a minimal amount of moisture in the tray.

Wait, did you get the mini greenhouse with the underneath wicking system? If so, then just let it operate the way it says.

Yup it's the mini greenhouse. And ok, I'll watch the watering...maybe just give a couple sprays to the leaves and soil here and there. That greenhouse is good as hell about keeping the moisture in, glad that I happened to have the seed starting mix too.

You want to spray the inside of the dome and clone whenever it dries out for the first 4-5 days. After that you no longer need to mist the clone, just the dome. This will make the clone focus on putting out some roots to absorb the water

I saw you said you scrapped the bottom part and put a split in it ...

That's very good I do the same thing when I clone and I haven't loss one clone yet (100% success rate).

I actually just took a clone yesterday

Kush I actually now believe that I possible read that advice from you, about scrapping the bottom and putting a split. Could be wrong, but it seems right for some reason lol. Thanks for the tips...hope I don't screw it up cuz I'll feel pretty stupid with your 100% success haha

well if it works we'll say you read it from me
If it doesn't work you didn't hear it from me

I think you got it under control tho