First time grow, cupboard set up, 400w hps, Mazar kush and Barneys farm phat fruity

Temp issues can stunt growth, and my temps and humidty around the same as yours. I think the lower 60's combined with wet medium is shocking mine at night. May switch to 24 on.Its also said to grow like 25% faster on 24/0. Havnt played with it tho. The hps you will make your plants stretch more so you will notice if the growth is progressing or stunted. It can always be optimized.
You dont want to fimm right before or after you transplant because of too much stress. Wait 5-7 days to be sure. You can do it before, but its taken a chance.
You cant tell a healthy plant from just the stem.. A sign.. not the sign..... I personally top/fim when the plant gets its third set of true leaves. You can do it earlier or later. Its subject of a very wide opinion.
They look great im only 13 days in. Shes finally speeding up. Your duel spectrum bulb will work nice well better than my 96w T5 and 150 Hps. The results will be fun! Whats the flower time for your strain?

Chase how long have you used just hps (guessing cause yours dont look duel spec and very high in red bulb in your op. The t5 and duel spec is not going to make his stretch as near as yours. exsp when he only used the t5 for a grip. Just saying...

tibilicus said:

Yeah man i think its around the right ph, because i'm growing in coco see. Anyways I'm going on your idea and am gonna fim the gals.
Will post a new photo now, they have really bushed out in recent days! Also i had to give the t5 light back as friend needs it. Now using 450 duel spectrum hps. Think they are gonna explode with growth!!

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Did not notice/remember you were using coco nor have i ever tried it out.

Coco's working really nicely so far, its so easy. Yeah i think the cool temps may well have caused slower growth than usual, but the temps with hps light on are much more appropriate for the plant. I did think about a 24hr light cycle but i read somewhere its good to try and replicate its natural enviro, so the dark period is needed! Oh and not to mention the break on the electric bill.
So transplanted them into 11 l pots today, hopefully once they have recovered from the shock they are going to blow up in size.. i hope! Oh planning to FIM in about a week.
Chase yours look delightful at only 4 weeks, nice work!

how much canna a & b were you using per litre of water from the start?

looking good im planning to grow in coco next but not sure about what ml of nutes to use per litre of water and how much to up it every week... think you could help me out?

Hi mate, i fed water for the first week or so then i used around 2ml a & b per litre. Also used 2 ml canna rhizo roots stimulator within the same litre. I fed this amount approx every three days. - but used the same litre for all three plants as pots were small. May not be the right method but it worked for me! + i have found coco and canna nutes are pretty forgiving.

Anyways 3 and a half weeks in I'm now feeding each plant 5ml A&B & 4ml Rhizo per two litres of water as i am using 11 litre pots. I think i will do this every other day, see how she goes!!
Let me know how you do!

I have hit bottom with this one. Mine is still only on its second set of true leaves, and there very small day 15. The temp in my box got as low as 61, and the soil temp mid to low 50's. We had lower 20's for two or three nights from that last northern. Shes still alive, if its a she at all.. i wondered because im using like a 1 gal pot maybe a size smaller, and roots were coming out the air holes already. Great root growth but very slow foilage growth. This last night i got a heating pad under it and kept the soil temp at 70. Old pad sux. Its the most it grew overnight so far.. this damn thing isnt a mm over 3 inches i bet. I never find a damn seed in this strawberry cough, and im not getting schwag. Such a sad grow. Maybe the little bitch will perk up and i wont have to run my hps all hours vs the t5..

Update me with some new pics tib..did you fim yet? What the flower time of your strains? How much they grow since transplant.

Not so good man, i hope she pulls through! I would guess from what you have said that it should make it, i do hope though for your sake its a lady!
Right yes, i only transplanted them two days ago so they haven't grown much due to stress from changing, hopefully they will take odd soon! they are looking nice and healthy though, so I'm gonna fim them in a weeks time.
Flower time i think is 8 weeks for both strains, but i think they might take a tad longer than that.
I shall post some photo's now mate

Growmemore said:

how much canna a & b were you using per litre of water from the start?

looking good im planning to grow in coco next but not sure about what ml of nutes to use per litre of water and how much to up it every week... think you could help me out?

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Right now based on light feeding you need 1.9ml of each A&B per litre.

In 1 weeks time you want 2.3ml of each per litre.

This will be ok until flowering.

Then 3ml per litre of each during first 2 weeks of 12/12

Then during PK13/14 week3 1.5ml of PK1314 and 3.4ml of A and B.

Then from week 4 onwards 2.3ml of A and B until you finish.

I was wondering when you use pk13/114, thanks! How often did you feed your plants in general? Also don't you only feed water for last week or two?

They look good. Cant wait to see the new shoots!
I said fkk it and transplanted into my gh dwc sysytem with the same t5. Its already getting color back and raising it leaves. I had no peralite in my peat mix, and all it did was suffocate my roots, stunt growth, droop the leaves and make it look like a nitrogen def.. of course wasnt though. Sad day 16 and still only have two sets of leaves ;( keep me updated!

I only add nutes once a week, and use only ph'd, h2o2, superthrive in beetween with no nutes. It helps to make sure all the prev nutes was used to prevent nute build up and burn. Though im now using a hydroton drip system its all diff
And yes you want th flush your last week flowering min. Two weeks can be done as well,but everyone does this based on there own opinion.

believe this was around day 14. She survived the horribly done transplant..

Subbed in, curious too see Mazar pheno- Good luck regards

Ok so 10 days since last update, they have literally exploded in size! I have been away for 8 days so had a friend watering them every 2 days with nutes at full strength. I could not believe the size when i saw them yesterday. So i have just fimmed all 3 yesterday and am making a start lsting them, wish i could have started earlier as stems and pretty thick! Anyways i'm going to veg for another 2 weeks, trying to lst and possibly fim them along the way. Canny wait to start flowering them. Il post some pics now, let me know what you think!
Mazar on the right, fruity on leftStem on fruity

Going to start flowering new years day. Will have vegged for 6 weeks and 3 days. Hopefully these boys will burst and become beasts!
People input input, what does thy think?

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Going to start flowering new years day. Will have vegged for 6 weeks and 3 days. Hopefully these boys will burst and become beasts! People input input, what does thy think?

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Looks good to me

Cheers pal, will get some more pictures up soon. If i can find me bastard camera lead - house is a mess after NYE haha

Cant wait to see them flowers... Hopefully none of them are boys! Happy new year!

Thanks! Happy new year to you too, may it be a great year for growing hefty fruits!

These photo's are pretty bad as used laptop camera, cant find my bleeding camera lead so apologies for poor quality! Also the hps seemed to mess with the photo's. Anyway here they are!Attempted lst - seems to have helped produce more bud sites least.
Will get my camera sorted so i can post quality pics when the flowers start forming.
Thanks for looking and happy new year!!