First time FFOF Auto grow...Help Welcome

What ph water have you been giving them?

Fupaslayer said:

What ph water have you been giving them?

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The last watering was 6.8 but before that I had done none and it was close to 8.8

I’m currently in FFOF also and want to make sure I don’t mess up so I just started following your thread.. I’m currently giving 7.0 but my run off is 5.3 idk if that’s bad. Do you know your run off ph?

So we are now at day 32 and the ladies are so happy. Yesterday they got their first feeding of the Gaia green 4-4-4 and 2-8-4. I gave 1tbs of each per gallon of soil. I have been Phong Down to about 6.5-7 as I am using drops ( find it much easier and more dependable than my cheep ph pen that's always out of wack. But have not checked my run off yet as the ladies are showing no stress.

The white widows are flowering. This is where you start to see the difference between the 1g pots and 5g pots. The smaller pots are about a week ahead in flower and just starting to frost the leafs, the 5g pots and will be much smaller but great spacing.

The early Miss are just starting to show sex and are looking amazing however the early mutant h(chubby tubs)been the hardest to control. Its growth has been so weird and everything wants to grow in a clump. I gave her a big hair cut last night and she has already bounced back amazing.

The lst has been great on all the plants and yesterday I gave them a minor but good defoliation even tho many say not too.(two full zip lock freezer bags full that we will be juicing) Beacuse of how many planta there are and the lsting. I will have a full canopy and it is getting tight.

The ladies love the new light setup however now that I have flipped the new 1000w into bloom I can't get a hold of the heat even tho it dose not seem to have stressed the ladies yet.

We have stuck with 90 r and b and hip hop and they have been dancing since. They are living up to the names given as seeds pics 1-7 prince, white guy(pale seed) jazzy, rythem, big Mama, chubby tubs, flash.

hotrodharley said:

Don’t bother with pH. Unless your water is crap.

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Ya I never check or adjust my ph. I let the microbes do it for me. Ive been using the same FFOF for 10 months now. So far so good. It actually seems to be getting better if you can believe that.

PadawanWarrior said:

Ya I never check or adjust my ph. I let the microbes do it for me. Ive been using the same FFOF for 10 months now. So far so good. It actually seems to be getting better if you can believe that.

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Day 34
my ph is really high here almost 9 so I try to bring it down but like suggested I really don't try too hard. Kinda figured out how much down it takes per gallon to get close to 6.5. So I just throw it in and water away. I test every few weeks if that's still close to 6.5 with drop but no ph meter anymore.

I am trying to stay organic and added my Gaia green mix last watering and they seem to have really loved it.

I think my next grow I may try Mo'ko'ko with Gaia green. I'll have about two pots of FFOF and it will be cool to compare.

Noob question alert!!!! ...when the breaded says 7 weeks flower dose take me 7 weeks from seed or 7 weeks from once it flowers.

I gave the ladies another little hair cut and they are bouncing back harder and I am almost out of room.

My temp is running a little high as it's hot af outside. It's about 82 at canopy hight and 73 around pot hight. I have not been too concerned should I be?

robi22 said:

Day 34
my ph is really high here almost 9 so I try to bring it down but like suggested I really don't try too hard. Kinda figured out how much down it takes per gallon to get close to 6.5. So I just throw it in and water away. I test every few weeks if that's still close to 6.5 with drop but no ph meter anymore.

I am trying to stay organic and added my Gaia green mix last watering and they seem to have really loved it.

I think my next grow I may try Mo'ko'ko with Gaia green. I'll have about two pots of FFOF and it will be cool to compare.

Noob question alert!!!! ...when the breaded says 7 weeks flower dose take me 7 weeks from seed or 7 weeks from once it flowers.

I gave the ladies another little hair cut and they are bouncing back harder and I am almost out of room.

My temp is running a little high as it's hot af outside. It's about 82 at canopy hight and 73 around pot hight. I have not been too concerned should I be?

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My ph is high too since I use our well water, so it tests at like 8.

The breeder means flowering time, but you can't trust that fully. It's just an estimate. They usually take a little longer.

Your temps aren't bad, but I try to stay below 80 in flower.

robi22 said:

Day 34
my ph is really high here almost 9 so I try to bring it down but like suggested I really don't try too hard. Kinda figured out how much down it takes per gallon to get close to 6.5. So I just throw it in and water away. I test every few weeks if that's still close to 6.5 with drop but no ph meter anymore.

I am trying to stay organic and added my Gaia green mix last watering and they seem to have really loved it.

I think my next grow I may try Mo'ko'ko with Gaia green. I'll have about two pots of FFOF and it will be cool to compare.

Noob question alert!!!! ...when the breaded says 7 weeks flower dose take me 7 weeks from seed or 7 weeks from once it flowers.

I gave the ladies another little hair cut and they are bouncing back harder and I am almost out of room.

My temp is running a little high as it's hot af outside. It's about 82 at canopy hight and 73 around pot hight. I have not been too concerned should I be?

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Well, looks like they all fit in there pretty well. I've heard flowering time is from when you see pistils, but many breeders misrepresent this time as less than it really is.

Day 41 and the small pot white widows are getting frosty. They are about a week and two weeks ahead of the other two in 5g pots.

The early Miss are just starting to take their shape and begging flowering. All three of these ladies have stayed at the same life stage no matter the pot size.

We are at day 48.

I just gave the 5g ladies a feed of the Gaia green 4-4-4 and 2-8-4 and ph to 6.5ish. I also have them a hair cut only where it was blocking bud sites. I also lolipoped them minorly removing all the small stuff.

The ladies are in full stretch and getting huge. I have to take out all the fans and face them inward and leave the tent open due to heat but everyone is happy.

I noticed yesterday a few leafed were turning yellow a bit with these brown spots and am wondering it is is a cal/mag issue??

I am planning on adding some bat guano but was wondering how soon into flower to use it.

Thanks for the help

Pic1-2 to see stretching compared to fan last week

3-4 I need help is this a cal mag problem? I am feed fully organic so just reamended incase it was that.

5 is the white widows all at different stages. The lady in the top right is going to be huge.

6 is the early misss

7 money shot

robi22 said:

Day 34
my ph is really high here almost 9 so I try to bring it down but like suggested I really don't try too hard. Kinda figured out how much down it takes per gallon to get close to 6.5. So I just throw it in and water away. I test every few weeks if that's still close to 6.5 with drop but no ph meter anymore.

I am trying to stay organic and added my Gaia green mix last watering and they seem to have really loved it.

I think my next grow I may try Mo'ko'ko with Gaia green. I'll have about two pots of FFOF and it will be cool to compare.

Noob question alert!!!! ...when the breaded says 7 weeks flower dose take me 7 weeks from seed or 7 weeks from once it flowers.

I gave the ladies another little hair cut and they are bouncing back harder and I am almost out of room.

My temp is running a little high as it's hot af outside. It's about 82 at canopy hight and 73 around pot hight. I have not been too concerned should I be?

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7 weeks? It means about 9 weeks from start of flower. Lol

robi22 said:

We are at day 48.

I just gave the 5g ladies a feed of the Gaia green 4-4-4 and 2-8-4 and ph to 6.5ish. I also have them a hair cut only where it was blocking bud sites. I also lolipoped them minorly removing all the small stuff.

The ladies are in full stretch and getting huge. I have to take out all the fans and face them inward and leave the tent open due to heat but everyone is happy.

I noticed yesterday a few leafed were turning yellow a bit with these brown spots and am wondering it is is a cal/mag issue??

I am planning on adding some bat guano but was wondering how soon into flower to use it.

Thanks for the help

Pic1-2 to see stretching compared to fan last week

3-4 I need help is this a cal mag problem? I am feed fully organic so just reamended incase it was that.

5 is the white widows all at different stages. The lady in the top right is going to be huge.

6 is the early misss

7 money shot

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Did you figure it out? I vote K defficiency, esp given that it just started flowering (ca use is decreasing in flower from whay I've read and p is a mobile nute (this is affecting older leaves not newer ones) The whole mobile vs immobile thing is v. helpful for diagnosing plants because you can rule a bunch of stuff out and it tells you where you need to look to see if it's getting better or worse. Also I think calcium defficiency is mostly intervenal instead of on the leaf margins.

Do you really want to be feeding a high n fert. in flower (guano)? I DON'T GROW IN SOIL anymore, so idk much about feeding regimens. nvm, I see you are feeding a high pk food.

Looks v. good though, I wish my plants were that short. How much do you think you'll get/are aiming for? 6-8oz ish? Not a good judge yet and wondering the same about my babies.

We are at day 58 from germ. The ladies are looking very happy.

I think my first ladies are getting ready to harvest I need advice on if they are ready. It is the two white widows that were in the 1 g pots. Both are coated and plumping up really nice.

The two white widows in the 5g are about two weeks apart with one looking about half way done flower and the other is about two weeks in.

The three early Miss are all flowering at the same time and are about a week into flower now. They are anything but early however in the last two weeks they have taken their final shaper and have spred out quite nice. The early Miss has a tone more foliage than the white widow and I have had to be very aggressive with my leaf picking to make sure everyone's getting light. They are a lot more straggaly than the widows probably due to stress from defoliation. I think this is a plant that needs much more room. I would have been able to fill the tent with two of them.

**** 1st 4 pics the 1g widows. How close to harvest are we???****

Next two diff widow phenos

Then the rest are the early Miss's

robi22 said:

We are at day 58 from germ. The ladies are looking very happy.

I think my first ladies are getting ready to harvest I need advice on if they are ready. It is the two white widows that were in the 1 g pots. Both are coated and plumping up really nice.

The two white widows in the 5g are about two weeks apart with one looking about half way done flower and the other is about two weeks in.

The three early Miss are all flowering at the same time and are about a week into flower now. They are anything but early however in the last two weeks they have taken their final shaper and have spred out quite nice. The early Miss has a tone more foliage than the white widow and I have had to be very aggressive with my leaf picking to make sure everyone's getting light. They are a lot more straggaly than the widows probably due to stress from defoliation. I think this is a plant that needs much more room. I would have been able to fill the tent with two of them.

**** 1st 4 pics the 1g widows. How close to harvest are we???****

Next two diff widow phenos

Then the rest are the early Miss's

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Awesome. Looks delish. Getting antsy to harvest my babies too and binge reading https://www.rollitup.org/t/want-to-know-if-your-plants-are-finished.328642/ to encourage me to wait longer.

I think it's more a personal choice whether you want to harvest now or later.. it being a harvest 'window' and all that. Also think you're answering your own questions with statements like 'plumping up' and 'final form'. Looks gud tho.

We are now at day 68 and the little 1g white widows are so close. I mean really they seem to be in the zone however i wont have my drying tent till next weekend can I push it another week?

The other 1g pot is starting to show signs of stress and she is only 3 weeks into flower. As she is so much slower the pot size has really had an effect as she grew almost twice as large as the other two and i am sure she is root bound. But she is still looking ok and frosting up ok.

The two early Miss are the pics right before the macros and I have high hopes they took forever to flip but it is looking like the wait will be well worth it.

do you guys give them 2 days full dark before chopping?

The macro shots are of the two 1g pots and so are the close up pics

Also have you ever tried drying still in pot without chopping down?

Do you always have a few day dark cycle before chopping?

wet or dry trim??? what would you do type deal as many varying opinions

Wow, nice buds. Chop em down yet?

robi22 said:

i wont have my drying tent till next weekend...

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There's many ways to dry. I just hung mine in a cardboard box this time around.

robi22 said:

Also have you ever tried drying still in pot without chopping down?

Do you always have a few day dark cycle before chopping?

wet or dry trim??? what would you do type deal as many varying opinions

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I always chop while the soil is dry. Chopped once while it was wet and ended up jarring them early. It worked out because they ended up fermenting a bit but didn't mold and it really changed the taste up.

Never done the dark period, but might try it one day.

Wet trim because it's easier.

I'd say, experiment. Try multiple methods for drying and curing at the same time, see what you like and how it changes things. Everyone's environment is different, we have 35% humidity here for example and my dry is usually 3 days before they are dry to the touch but wet inside.

TrippleDip said:

Wow, nice buds. Chop em down yet?

I always chop while the soil is dry. Chopped once while it was wet and ended up jarring them early. It worked out because they ended up fermenting a bit but didn't mold and it really changed the taste up.
Never done the dark period, but might try it one day.
Wet trim because it's easier.

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I am getting my tent tomorrow as well as an adjustable inline fan to run on low with carbon filter to help with the appt smell issue lmao so far no problems tho.

I think the timing will be perfect as both of the ladies are almost faded out and a day away from dryish(when i would normally water).

as both these ladies are very similar i am going to try a diff method on both to compare before the real ladies are ready.

one I will give two full days dark once dry then chop and "wet" trim and the other i will chop no dark and dry trim.

Once "Dry" how long do you cure before smoking or do you dive in right away?

I am hoping to be able to dry and cure for a week or two prior to cutting down the 4 big mommas.

For a first real grow in a 2*4 I think we should have a good yeild.

Nice grow man! Just doing my first auto grow now and was also running into a similar situation as you. I see you got no response :/

My seedling is 7 days old and I am about to transplant into it's final container. Let's forget the transplant vs. no transplant argument for a second... What was your watering schedule like? Now that the seedling is going into the bigger container, I am planning to water about 3x the diameter of the plant, but I am unsure how much water I should use... 250ml, 500ml? I am trying to wind off from daily watering now, so my last watering was a day and a half ago, but I am not sure how to make the transition more accurately.

Thanks in advance, sorry for resurrecting the thread!