First outdoor grow. Big plants!

pope creek

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Very nice. Sex, strain?

Backpack makes me think you are gorilla style. Looks like you picked a good spot too.
How long in the ground and how are you feeding?
 

Smasher420

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I have been working on this spot for about 2 years. Turned it over about 8 times put a 50 pound bag of aged cow manure. About 3 yards of dead leaves and the good stuff from the crotches of trees. Started some really good bag seed started out with 10 picked the best 5 had them inside for about a month and a half. Put them in may 1st and I was blessed with good weather added half of a bag of a organic fertilizer I think it's called tone and grow checked them a week ago and bam big old mama's couldn't be happier so far the hard work has paid off. You can't really tell but there is 4 plants there. Thanks for all the outdoor writers all the advice helps! I did have a problem with snails I plucked and killed everyone I could find about 30. I don't think they could hurt a plants of these sizes but I could be wrong. Only had one casualtie and I probably hurt it on the way in.
 

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Smasher420

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Well what do you guys think? I'd love to chat about outdoor growing. I'm located near vermont. Thanks!
 

pope creek

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Very nice. Keep it simple, smart and organic.
If they were mine I might do a little pruning down below and inside just to improve airflow, but tbh, nature builds plants her way for a reason and your babies look healthy as can be.
Good luck.
 

Smasher420

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Thank you! I did take all the dead leaves and trim a bit. But I'm new to this any advice helps just started last year. This is my first real grow.
 

pope creek

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Anyway whatever you are doing stick with it.
You might want to consider using compost and accumulator plant teas when you get to flowers (or anytime). They build the microbes and provide excellent nutrition. Plus they are easy and free. Loads of recipes in stickies in organic forum.
Some are complex but they don't need to be.
I make them from field plants and mollasus and it works great.
Check my grow journal if you want to.
 

BcDigger

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Thanks guys! Smoking one right now thinking about them.waiting on them to start to flower then the real show starts!
Looking real nice,I'd be more excited for the last month of turbo veg, you'll have very big plants. Don't forget those big plants will need to be supported. Hope all goes well for you.
 

pope creek

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I reckon a big plant like that, with it's thick stems and trunk will hold its buds fine. If you don't prune like crazy. Natural Christmas tree shaped plants grow to bear their load.
Unless it had those traits bred out like sour diesel, in which case, he's going to need some scaffold!
 

calicocalyx

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Last couple good weeks of veg right now. I would either top em or spread em or both. Thin out the undercarriage. Bamboo and twisty ties are easy to hike in and blend a little better than wire cages. Since it is almost flower time, I'd get on preventative sprays to be sure and keep pests away. These plants haven't exactly been natural selected to get so big, especially in these northern temperate climates. Good airflow and more medium size buds rather than gargantuan, will also help with mold prevention. Looking good though, my guerrilla failed, lol.
 

pope creek

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Calico,
Can't agree about spray for bugs, unless they are infested, which other than some snails earlier, doesn't seem to be the case.
Big healthy plants are pretty resistant to insects ( when not in a grow room) and once they start heavy resin production even more so.
One of the beauties of doing it organic is the concept of balance.
Instead of no bugs in your garden you want all the bugs in there. If conditions are right (and they almost always are outdoors) the bugs balance. You may get the odd leaf sucker but you also get the dragon fly.
Gentle nibbling by a few bugs does no harm and probably strengthens plant resistance.
Most sprays are too indiscriminant and take all the bugs out. Balance is lost.
 

calicocalyx

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Calico,
Can't agree about spray for bugs, unless they are infested, which other than some snails earlier, doesn't seem to be the case.
Big healthy plants are pretty resistant to insects ( when not in a grow room) and once they start heavy resin production even more so.
One of the beauties of doing it organic is the concept of balance.
Instead of no bugs in your garden you want all the bugs in there. If conditions are right (and they almost always are outdoors) the bugs balance. You may get the odd leaf sucker but you also get the dragon fly.
Gentle nibbling by a few bugs does no harm and probably strengthens plant resistance.
Most sprays are too indiscriminant and take all the bugs out. Balance is lost.
OK Mang your choice. Caterpillars, mites, thrips, earwigs, slugs, snails, grasshoppers, mold, powdery mildew, ect.... love to eat the herb. I appreciate the altruistic organic approach though. Ounce of prevention and all. Know what sucks? To be halfway into flower and realize there is an epidemic but you don't dare spray now. Maybe it's perfectly harmonious in your neck of the woods though. Gentle nibbling? Not trying to bust your balls, but been there done that. Good luck, nice plants!
 

calicocalyx

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Just want to also point out that nature is dynamic and evolving, changing. It's not balanced or still. Balances shift. Most likely your plants are hybrids, artificially selected, if you're in north america, its most likely not even close to the climate from which your plants' genes have been selected to "survive". You're in the bush, amidst lots of plant and animal life.

One of my first grows had a couple grasshoppers appear. I decided to pick them off and remove them from the area, alive and unharmed. I kept noticing their numbers getting greater. Sneaky bastards would shimmy around to the back of the stem as I approached. One day branches started being cut down, until they had swarmed my biggest plant, that AK 47 was a giant green beacon among the brown brush.

Nothing "natural" about putting this herb in the woods to grow. I grow organic. I don't spray synthetics or even natural stuff that is harmful in high doses (spinosad, pyrethrum. ect...) I brew strong beneficial teas and make my own compost. So I'm with ya on organic and natural and all that. Just a heads up is all. I know it's a lot of work/risk to guerrilla. Those girls do look great, can't wait to see the flowers.
 

Smasher420

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Thanks guys. I was gunna check them this week but it's been raining and I don't like leaving boot prints. The funny part is I started out with 10 plants germinated 9 of them the only one I didn't is my biggest about 7 feet. That one I put the seed directly in the soil and by the first month it's stem was the size of my finger. I was going to tie down that big plant and see what happens but mother nature has her own ideas today!
 

timfbmx

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Love your style man. You obv know what you're doing those are some beauties. They blend in very nice with the native vegetation. I agree with your stance on not spraying for bugs. In my experience big plants can handle bugs very well just like you said.
 
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