First Outdoor Grow (Bagseed): Grow log

necrotoker

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Well, I have planted 9 seeds so far, a few here, a few there. Two days ago, my first seedling popped soil. After last nights rain I got three more popped through the soil. Three look good. One of them I accidently uncovered while brushing away loose leafs and sticks that had fallen over night and I ripped it out. This was yesterday. I simply dug a little hole and gently replanted it, today it looks just as good as the others. I haven't used any kind of special dirt, I just planted them in the dirt where we use to put our compost like 4 years back, then we also used to pour the dead embers from our firepit right there too. Some one told me the charcoal from burnt wood does wonders for soil and plant growing. I have been weeding around them and taking really good care to keep their area bug and debri free. I'll put some pictures up once I get a hold of a nice camera. so at the moment, four seedlings, with the potential of five more. and they all look really good. Can anyone tell me how much a plant grown from a seed of middies will generally grow?
 

necrotoker

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so 2 never broke soil, and three were murdered by cats and falling twigs. the remaining four look awesom, except for a minor nut/min deficiency which I am working to resolve as i type this. pics soon :) Also the true leaves have stopped growing nodes(?) at only three per leave. it wigged me out at first, but after a careful web search, it seems that is normal for plants nowadays.
 

Slipon

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hmmm .. depending on strain .. climate and when you plant em .. a nice plant who get enough time (4 month+) can easily give 1 pound of buds ..

when I grew out doors many years ago (15) I usely got between 300 and 700 grams a plant .. depending on strain .. condisions and light/summer ..

I live in Denmark .. we got short and sumtimes cold summers ..

I usealy plantet it inside in may .. put it out in june so it could Veg in June/July and flower in august/septemper .. haverstet in late septemper as oktoper usealy can bring night frost here .. but we also sumtimes get realy bad cold summers with more rain then sun .. so sumtimes a haverst could be great and sumtimes not so much ..

I also usealy used the best top colars to smoke and the rest to make kif/oil .. so my plants usealy gave me like 300grams of top quality buds and maybe 20-30 grams of oil ..

but if you got nice condisions and care for them I dont see why you schould grow x-mass trees that give 1-2 pound each ..
 

necrotoker

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cool thanks man. I moved a couple fluroscent lights and a fan out to where they are growing they haven't been getting much light because of the tree's and i dont wanna cut down anymore branches (i been climbing into the trees around my grow spot annd pruning away the canopy on the sun path by my grow spot.) i think they are having a problem, is it bad to cut the true leaves... i am not proceeding till i find out.. I wanna show the leaves so i can get help, but they only have true leaves...
 

Slipon

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true leaves ? you mean on your weed plants ? dont do that .. specialy if they are young .. fan leaves are powerplants for the plant and specialy a young plant with few leaves ..

do you have a fluroscent lights and a fan out side ????
dont do that .. just let em be .. water after a few hot days and look after them ..

you got a tree in the way from the sun ?
well if the shade is`t to much (take all sun all day) it wont hurt em .. might give you a smaller haverst tho ..

but I guess it is a question on safety and what is possible (or Im sure you would have plantet them in a place with +10 hours direct sun)
and I much rather have nice 300-400 grams plant .. that nobody spots .. steals or bust .. then takeing chances to get a bit more ..

just plant a few more and you end up with the same ammount .. and make sure evrything els is spot on (dirt, nutriens aso)


acctualy now I think about it ...

I once knew a guy who had a huge backyard .. in the end of it ther was a big Hedgerow (dunno if that is the right word ?)
behind that he had like 20x30 meters more backyard with trees on all 3 sides out aginst a road ..

so nobody could see in .. but they also gave him a lot of shadow .. high trees .. 30-50 meters high ..

and his plants allways turnd out pretty good .. 2 meters high with +1 pond on each (and he had mostly +20!!!)

agin I guess it depense on strain aso.... tho back then we did`t have all the fancy strains .. or internet to ask questons or find info (we used "the hamp growers handbook ... if you could find it in any Library .. most was stolen/never returnd :))

but what we found out was if you grew the same strain year after year it kind got use to the condisions and got better and better so to speak .. I remeber when Ppl. knew somebody who had been growing for like +10 years and had realy nice stuff .. evrybody wanted seeds ;)
 

WeedDeed

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Feed on the forth node if the soil isnt rich enough to feed them itself, and dont go crazy with watering. Watch the weather try to shade them if it gets to be 95 degrees or more. Goodluck, and lay the rest in God's hands, or whom you believe in.
 

necrotoker

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ok guys, I took the fan off them. I wanted to keep the lights one 'em, but I guess I'll have to get up in to the trees and cut away the canopy some more, right now they aren't in total shade ever, but they are also barely ever in direct sunlight maybe like 8 hours of direct light a day since i've cut some of the canopy away. I figured if I added the fluroscents to what they were already getting from sunlight it would even them out a but from being planted under the tree's.
Actually the other day two of my plants got stepped on by an animal. one was trampled completely and was severed from the root system. the other was bent about halfway down the stalk, so I propped her up with a stick and a twisty tie (loosely). I've red that they can easily come back from situations like this so I'm not worried about her. the other one though is a loss... :-(

I also started a feeding regiment yesterday with Schultz 10-15-10 plant food and epsom salt. I started em off with half strength to see how they react, because I planted them with 3 month slow release fertilizer. I also have been crushing egg shells and sprinkling the soil with wood ash to boost the calcium levels. Actually the spot where i planted them was a spot where we use to empty our firepit of ashes. they seem to be fixed of their calcium deficiency, I think it was locked out honestly, I gave them a pretty heavy handed dose of epsom a couple weeks back, which i admit was because i was ill-informed on nutes.. they seem to be recovering and i didn't give them epsom yesterday when i started the fert. I'm not sure i am even going to be giving them more epsom yet. What do you guys think? oh and
 

Slipon

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next grow you might want to consider to keep em in pots .. atlest to start with .. that way you can boath move em around to catch sun so to speak .. and move em in door to give em more light at night doing Veg. and/or to keep em safe from animals and bad wether wile they are small .. once they are a feet or so you plant them out (this time schould also be when summer/sun is on its higest)

most guids I read tell you the plants need atlest 5 hrs (the more the better) of direct and strong sunlight to mature right ..
if you can give em 8 and maybe 4-6 more of indirect/wake light Im sure you will be fine as long as they get +14 hrs days in Veg ...

best of luck ..
 

necrotoker

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Yeah, i think i may get some Auto-flowers to put in pots if these don't look so hot by the end of the month.. that way I'll at least have something, and those I can put right in the backyard easily. Next year they are definatley going into pots, I didn't realize how dangerous it was out there for them :(

ACTUALLY, the plant that got bent about halfway down has rebuilt 3/8 of the bend, if I were to take it off it's splint, i think it would be able to hold its head (new growth, top of plant) up off the ground. but tthat isn't the truly exciting part. the real kicker is, you know that plant that got severed, I didn't mention this because i thought it was futile, I put the stem down in the dirt. I just pushed it in a little bit, no hormones or anything, and when i went down this morning for my morning check, she looks to be making a comeback....:cool:

yeah yesterday 3/4 of the plant was shriveled up and the stalk was all soft, and now like 1/2 the plant is shriveled up and less of the stalk is soft... Is it possible to root a plant by simply sticking it in dirt???
 

Slipon

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it is possible .. but I think pretty hard (no experiance tho)

I read that you can make clones root with no homons (some use honny .. clean bee honny to dip ther roots in)
also you have to cut the steem in a 45 degrees angle to make the biggest surfece for water uptake and roots to grow from .. and if possible .. cut it so ther is a pair of side shoots that get under the dirt aswell (of course cut em off fist) the plant can use it to grow roots from I belive ..

but I guess what most Ppl. would do .. was to cut it .. and make as many clones of her as possible of all them smaller shoots (dunno if it is to late ?)
and replant them all in small cups under a clf inside to get em to root .. then replant them in larger pots and keep em out side doing the day and if your short on time .. you could force em to flower early .. if you dont mind the work .. give em the best full sunn .. mid day .. for 12 hrs .. then move em in a dark spare/bath room for ther night (no light leaks ! and good ventilation is needed)
 

necrotoker

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First pictures for you guys. Of all the plants that survived my tinkering, two were female, and this is where they are at... Enjoy....

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BDog76

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Love seeing my new england brethren getting it in!!! We'd all love to see some finished product pics man, did you take any others along the flowering??!! A couple tips I was given many moons ago that may help is to research topping your girls. Instead of that one top cola, you'll promote side growth & more bud points which = MORE BUDS!! And who doesn't want that!?! Also, research training and or tie downs...Keeps the profiles wide instead of tall & they hide better in surrounding flora...Again, GREAT job man...Anyone giving it a go is right the fck on!!! Learn & next time get 4 x's as much end product. Also..if you're in NE, try some hollands hope or similar genetics. The folks in the OTHER NE across the pond have made some awesome genetics built for max yield w/o mold, insect, etc issues specifically for our area of operations....Best of luck, keep it up!!!!!
 
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