First Hydro, small talk!

hey DK check this out i dont want to lead you the wrong way. MIne just got a lot bigger but these look likr they might end up smaller.

https://www.rollitup.org/hydroponics-aeroponics/139637-64-plants-4x4-flood-drain-3.html#post1746075

DeweyKox said:

I have not added up the amps yet, but I only had the 600 on and the 6 inch can fan to test temps.Will take a look at all electronics and add them all up.

Here is a pic what the flower room that I am working on. Bottom of flood table to light is 29 inches. I could at the most with out having to tear shit down could gain another inch of 2.

Might have to find a different low profile rez tank. I need a 25 gallon, and this is all they had at the shop......FUCK!

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Does this have to be stealth? run the tub outside the closet. or somewhere else to your tray.

I could possible run the tank out side, but it would still have to be under the the height of the table to flow back into the tank right?

Added up all the amps, came out to 12.3 with out the water pump and air pump. So I should be fine there.

If I were able to run the rez outside the tank, that would give me 42 inches from table to cooltube!

I guess I could pump the water back to the rez. But now I need to plug the extra hole that has been drilled.

But I do have 2 water pumps, So I should be ok.......I just need to figure out how to plug the extra hole I guess and move some shit around to make it fit and run right. Also will need some more tubing.

I could buy some small bricks to raise the tabel just enough to get the plumbing done. What type of attachments will I need to do this. I already have the the 2 drain fixtures, one that is for the pump to fill the table, and other w/3" riser for overfill.

sparkafire said:

Does this have to be stealth? run the tub outside the closet. or somewhere else to your tray.

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Does not have to be completly stealth, its in the garage. I just throw blankets over it when there is company.

So I have 2 pumps, but one was free and given to me, but does not have the fittings on the outside that I need. So I will just buy a better one.

The drain fitting that I have to fill the table is 3/4 inch tubing i think? The pump has fittings for 3/4 and 1 inch if I'm not mistaken.

How can I take advantage of both 2 inch holes already made into the table? Use one for filling the table with soup, and the other for pump out? Or should I leave the over flow too, and just run the second pump to pump out the table back to the rez?

Added some 3" brick to support the table just enough to run the plumbing underneath. Now I need help making a list of things I need to make this work......Help plz

Hey man I'm no expert but do you have a local Hydro shop like "Worms Way"?
I found that the guys that work there, in my area, are master at taking a list of parts you have and telling you to the penny what you need and if they have it & what it cost. They are basicly the same price after shipping but you can get "Face Time" with a Hydro Expert. Just tell them you're growing tomates, they will set you up!
The one here has grow rooms setup with all the things from an AeroGarden to a $5K grow system. I just love going in there for the expert knowledge in Hydro. Now combine that with the expert info you get from RIU and I think I found the winning combo!

Yea, I'm going down there tomm. to see what all I need. I might even take the tabel with me and have them fit all the parts on it, so its plug and play when I get home.......

Well, finally finished the build. I found a low profile bin, returned my rez, and got the table only 6 inches off the grown giving me a total from table to cooltube 36 inches. I know thats cutting it close, so I'm going to cut my clones close.

Just did a test flood, and the pump took 16 minutes to flood. God knows how long to drain. Still waiting as I type. I think down the road I'm going to get a bigger pump. The only thing I'm worried about is the rex is so close to the table, the hose is got about 35 degree bend from the short distance between the two. I think I am going to push the pump back further to take out the kink in the line.

DeweyKox said:

Well, finally finished the build. I found a low profile bin, returned my rez, and got the table only 6 inches off the grown giving me a total from table to cooltube 36 inches. I know thats cutting it close, so I'm going to cut my clones close.

Just did a test flood, and the pump took 16 minutes to flood. God knows how long to drain. Still waiting as I type. I think down the road I'm going to get a bigger pump. The only thing I'm worried about is the rex is so close to the table, the hose is got about 35 degree bend from the short distance between the two. I think I am going to push the pump back further to take out the kink in the line.

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Dont worry about time to flood your fine i ran mine at 15 mins I think you will be much happier with the set up now. Looks like your on your way my friend.

Here is my setup, Veg room on left, and pics go on to the flower room. What ya think, any more improvements?

DeweyKox said:

Dam, and the GFI i have connected to both rooms just popped. Maybe I should Ditch it. I have both 400W(Veg) and 600W(flower) on its own 15AMP breaker. The GFI popped but never had in issue with the 15AMP breaker. Should I ditch the GFI, or only use it at the pumps for the rez? GFI popped only with the 600 and 6" fan on.....Flood Table Size: 4X2X7"

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Your space looks really nice Dewey.

Your GFCI is popping for a reason, one that may be quite shocking if you remove the GFCI. The GFCI senses very small currents of electricity leaking to ground. If you get between this source and the ground it will go through you. Not good.

1000W is only about 8.5 amps not nearly enough to trip a 15A breaker.

Please investigate the GFCI tripping out. Check for any loose ground wires bad ballast perhaps, maybe a fan that is shorted, there is something wrong.

Peace out brother looks like you will get some dank out of your op...........................if you survive.

DK have you taken into consideration the extra Amps pulled when your light starts up?(assuming you're not using a digital ballast)

I'm using a digital for the 600 flower room, and 400 regular in the veg room. I added up all the amps being used by all electronics and its dam near 13 amps. Whole setup is on its own 15AMP breaker and any electronics on the floor or near water are all on GFI. I have one Surge protector on outside of the room, and each room inside has there own surge protector. So I should have it pretty safe and with in its means.

kpw555 said:

Your space looks really nice Dewey.

Your GFCI is popping for a reason, one that may be quite shocking if you remove the GFCI. The GFCI senses very small currents of electricity leaking to ground. If you get between this source and the ground it will go through you. Not good.

1000W is only about 8.5 amps not nearly enough to trip a 15A breaker.

Please investigate the GFCI tripping out. Check for any loose ground wires bad ballast perhaps, maybe a fan that is shorted, there is something wrong.

Peace out brother looks like you will get some dank out of your op...........................if you survive.

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I only had the GFI connected to the digital 600 ballast, everything else was on a seperate plug. Once the 600 got fully heated up in about 6-10 minutes, is when it popped. I wonder if the ballast have too much power coming into the GFI? I checked the box to see if there was a limitation, but there's no explanation for it. So I took it off, and only used it for the water pump and air pump and anything else used near the rez. What else should I be looking for?

The fact that the new digital 600 tripped the gfi after 6-10 minutes is odd, unless the ballast almost makes it sound like the ballast was not at full current until that happened. Who knows, maybe it's a cheap gfi?

That is a strange problem indeed sir.

The outlet should handle 15A minimum current for any residential installation. Higher current outlets are available but you will pay a premium for them.

I have heard lately that the digital ballasts are putting out a lot of RFI (radio frequency interference), and can affect other electronic devices in the area. Perhaps the ballast is affecting the GFCI in this manner.

hey dk ... thought i would give you a little heads up on your elec. problem...
fist off your problem could be any of a few things..
1 bad gfi. 2 bad ballest 3 faulty wireing... 4 ?....
more than likley if your in a residential house , your plug has more on it than you think.. there could be 2 or more rooms . closets.. hall ways on the same breaker.. your plug could be in line with more wireing..
find the brkr you are using for the light .trip it and check what else is off...
you should if possible use only one light on that brkr....
replace the standard breaker with a gfi brkr.. not that the gfi plugs are not good the brkrs are much better....
you can never spend to much on quality electrical equipment... dont buy cheap.. sleep good at night... i can help you diagnose some if needed ..hope this helps

I added a breaker to the box and wired to the grow rooms that is completly seperate from everything connected in the house. Nothing else is connected. But if the digital ballast is casting out interfirence, that could explain it. I had them side by side. I think I might move the gfi and ballast further away from each other. If that does not do the trick, will swap out the ballast for another one. I only had the ballast connected directly into the ballast at the time the gfi popped.

I'm almost positive a 400w and a 600 on one 15amp breaker will run just fine. The breaker has not popped, only gfi on the 600 ballast. The ballast ran fine, but after 5-10 minutes the gfi popped.

Well, tried moving the ballast further away, same shit. Will be taking the ballast to the shop to swap it out with a new one!

hey dk... alot easier to swap out the gfi plug... 15 amp should be ok .... probably just a bad plug..... good luck

Thanks. I guess I could get a different GFI plug, but I want to take the ballast in just to be sure. It was an open box deal, and the guy said I could take it back if there was any problems and swap it out for a new one. So I kind of want to knock that out of the check list. Next will be the outlet it self. Crossing my fingers this will get worked out by tomorrow.

Clones are not showing roots. I know it got cold, and with no dome, heat was not high enough. Going to give them 2 more days, if not, taking new ones......