First HPS Grow - 600w - Multiple Strains - Closest

waiting for some updates bro! Keep it green

Well I'm glad that's over, don't like that negative stuff in my thread.

Since no one has anymore thoughts and seems like I'm just annoying my ganja guru according to others. I am just going to continue on and do my own thing, kind of go with the flow of my plants. If anyone notices anything please tell me, or have any suggestions. I take peoples advice to heart. If you guys want to stay along for the journey you can.

I don't really know what I can or can't say anymore and don't understand who can say what, but it's hard to tip toe around.

I'll be doing a update soon with some ages and such. I changed my 3g and 2g experiment plan so I'll talk more on my plan as well.

GanjaHome said:

waiting for some updates bro! Keep it green

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Haha thanks man, going to do some in a bit here. Saw you set a harvest date on your big ass Autos, 90 days doesn't seem very Auto to me lol

So here is what is going on currently.

- I moved my clone box out of the veg cab because the clones were too hot. I took 5 more Plato clones, now having seven. I don't think the two that got too hot will make it, but hoping. And I'm pretty sure the clone that is in soil is off a male plant.
- The plan to do a couple 3g Smart Pots is out, just going with all 2g Smart Pots with the new seedlings.
- The two Platos left flowering are doing well, recovering them their recent super crop. They will be raised closer to the lights soon.
- The Unknown #1 plant is getting more and more crystals, and is slowly starting to fill up a bit. Still see a long flower with this one.
- Also plan to flush all three flowering plants to start figuring out could be going on with a few of my leaves.

Here are the pictures. I'll make sure to include labeled names and age.


Clones in their new, cooler, area. Some are pretty small, had slim pickings at this point.


Plato clone in soil - Not sure of age


BF 8Ball Kush #1 - Day 10 Veg


BF 8Ball Kush #2 - Day 10 Veg


BF 8Ball Kush #3 - Day 10 Veg


BD x BLG - Day 10 Veg


Auto Purple - Day 3 from Seed


Plato #2-3 Group Shots - Day 8 Flower



Unknown #1 - Day 19 Flower

AllDayToker said:

Haha thanks man, going to do some in a bit here. Saw you set a harvest date on your big ass Autos, 90 days doesn't seem very Auto to me lol

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lol they advice 80 Days seed to harvest i'll give it 85!

GanjaHome said:

lol they advice 80 Days seed to harvest i'll give it 85!

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Well I can't wait to see your harvest man, been watching forever haha.

How is everyone doing this morning? I just got back from my doc appointment, things are looking up. Time to bake up. Choice of glass this morning, Stoned Glass Works Single Waffle Perc v2.

So plans for today/tomorrow.

I need to raise up my Plato #2 and #3 closer to the light.
I need to flush all flowering plants to begin to figure out what's going on with them, so I guess feeding will have to wait.
I need to figure out if that clone I got in soil is male or female.
Think that's it for now.

Can someone give me there thoughts about this?
From what I've been reading online it says you can start feeding again after you flush on your next watering. In my mind it seems like it would be safer to water with plain water for at least 1 or 2 more waters to make sure you have a week or so to see if the flushing helped the problem, or if it's another problem all together. I just want to see what you guys think about this?

Thanks,
ADT

I am not certain as to the best practice here, but flushing to correct
a salt build up is different from a nutrient flush that many add to a normal
grow (see any of the Greenhouse Seeds videos, for example).

Just thought to add this issue, as I have seen this term confused.

Good luck,

JD

Alright so I watched that Greenhouse Seeds video; they claim to flush every week. Never heard of that before.

My thoughts are more to flush to see if nute burn is the problem with some of my leaves. And I didn't know if I fed during next watering after the flush if that's too soon to see noticeable change from the flush, or if I would just be burning it more.

Well, keep in mind that over-watering is an issue too.

If you start to see the leaves go into the dreaded eagle claw,
but they are not looking ill individually, then over-watering
could be the issue. I saw this myself once.

Good luck,

JD

AllDayToker said:

I got a few leaves showing some problems on all three of my flowering plants. Been researching for awhile and can come up with a solid cause, wether it's from heat or stress or nutes or age or deficiency or what. I have been concerned about it because the plant has been growing very healthy, just with a few problems. I was hoping I could get some input from you guys.

Plants have been watered twice with plain water since last feed. Last feed was 600ppm for the two Platos, and 750ppm for the Unknown plant. Temps from 79-82f. rH from 30-40%. Plants 15-18inches from light. By the way the picture is only Plato plants, but having same problem with each flowering plant. From left to right it's from middle section, lower, then lowest. All upper and top growth looks great.



Thanks. If you need anymore information let me know.

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Nothing wrong with your nutes Bro,Expect some leafs to show some issues now,Your changing to flowering.
Never take leafs off let them basically fall off,And when you do have a issue post the hole plant,so we can see where and what the rest of the plant looks like.My only concern is the first leaf and the new growth.Hers a pic



Beech

Oh I know, I make sure I don't over water. I let mine get pretty light before I water.

Just curious if I should wait a couple waterings after flush before I start feeding again to wait for results, or just continue with feed schedule after the flush.

I'm not saying I'll be watering a lot, it's more normal schedule of whenever they are dry.

SOMEBEECH said:

Nothing wrong with your nutes Bro,Expect some leafs to show some issues now,Your changing to flowering.
Never take leafs off let them basically fall off,And when you do have a issue post the hole plant,so we can see where and what the rest of the plant looks like.My only concern is the first leaf and the new growth.Hers a pic
Beech

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I normally let my leaves just fall off, or if they are covering a lot of bud sites. I just took these off for clear pictures.

I looked at the chart forever yesterday! The closest thing I saw to that big leaf I took a picture of is a K deficiency, but I don't know if that's right.

I will take some pictures of the whole plant, the problem areas, and the tops so you can get a better opinion. It might be a bit I'm moving some stuff around in the house and grow areas.

I'll hold off on the flush until you see the plants.

SxIstew said:

Bro, you need to switch to General Organics. At lease until you can get the feeding down... then switch away.

You have had too many problems with nutrients this grow. You are only causing yourself more hassle.

General Organics. Try it.

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Do not change your nutes there fine.
Would advise some Cal-mag or Epson in a foliar or 1-2tsp per gallon of water.
FFOF is know for having to little.

• In general, magnesium plays a role in strengthening the plant cell walls, allowing the plant to take in the nutrients it needs. It also aids in seed germination, photosynthesis and in the formation of fruits and seeds.
  Post a picture of the plants with issues,please.
  Beech

SOMEBEECH said:

Do not change your nutes there fine.
Would advise some Cal-mag or Epson in a foliar or 1-2tsp per gallon of water.
FFOF is know for having to little.

• In general, magnesium plays a role in strengthening the plant cell walls, allowing the plant to take in the nutrients it needs. It also aids in seed germination, photosynthesis and in the formation of fruits and seeds.
  Post a picture of the plants with issues,please.
  Beech

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Calmag is the one thing I am missing with nutes that everyone has. I am ordering a PC fan to exhaust my veg cab tonight, so I'm going to see if I got any extra left for some of that.

Yes, I made Cal-Mag part of my Botanicaire line.

No burning issues. Pretty easy.

Good luck,

JD

Epsom Salt is Cheap bro,can get at all grocerys.
Beech

• Epsom salts contain hydrated magnesium sulfate, two elements crucial to plant growth.
• Magnesium can become scarce in soil, usually because of erosion or depletion of the top soil or a pH imbalance
• Sulfur is crucial to the inner workings of plants, but it is almost never lacking in the soil, thanks in part to synthetic fertilizers and acid rain.
• ​https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CCsQFjAA&url=http://gardening.about.com/od/organicgardenin1/f/Epsom_Salts.htm&ei=nHovUqrANMrfrQHLpICACQ&usg=AFQjCNEboQv3mou9jSHyg__FqDSFCSrROA&bvm=bv.51773540,d.aWM

Pics plz...
Beech

I got some Beech.

Not sure how to use it...is it dissolved in water, or are
the crystals just scattered as a top-dressing? How are
amounts calculated?

Thanks!

JD