First Grow: Nirvana Bubblelicious-600W-4x2x8 Home made Grow Cabinet

dr.tomb

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Growing Medium: Rockwool sitting on a layer of perlite
Nutes: Week 2 from the schedule
pH balanced water:
5.5-6
light cycle: 12/12 under 600W HPS
Days in: 46
Days In Flower: 14
Plants:
4 Plants (2 Ceres Skunk and 2 Nirvana Bubbleicious

Notes: Well with in the last week I've sexed the plants, built an Aeroponics system and made clones of the girls.

Sexing: 6 out of the 10 grew balls, leaving me with 4 girls. Which isn't a bad thing, i expected half to be boys, this also means i have 2 Ceres skunk and 2 Nirvana Bubbleicious. A 50/50 split ;) Moved 2 boys out to the yard, going to grow them out, collect some pollen and make some seeds with a bud or two on the girls. Also FIMed the plants to make them a little bushier since theres so much room now.

Clones: On about day 6 i took clones using cloning gel and Super B+. After detecting the girls and the boys, i thinned out the clones to keep only the girls.


Aeroponics: Built myself an Aeroponics tub. It uses 360 easy clone misters, 5" net pots for a total of about 6 sites about 8-10inch apart. Ive read and people recommend 1ft, however when i get this going, i plan to take them from clones, immediately into flower. I don't think that the spacing will be an issue. I still need to order in a sub-pump ~600GPH. Not too worried right now since im atleast a month and a half from that phase.

I also ordered a TDS/PH/Temp meter in. It arrived today, purchased the 4pH and 1000PPM calibration solutions and calibarted the meter. This should makes life so much easier, and when i get all the parts together it will be a key element in my Aeroponics grow.

Pictures:

Look how big the roots are on this male. They look nice and white too :)
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Picture of the girls, spread them out to give them room to grow.
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Nirvana Bubbleicious (2): Has slight amount of yellowing, looks better from a week ago, i upped the nutes a little and she got a bit greener
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Nirvana Bubbleicious (4) - Nothing looking wrong at all
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Ceres Skunk (8) - Nice looking Sativa leaves, no issues
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Ceres Skunk (9) - Looks very strong as well
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dr.tomb

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Nirvana Bubbelicious

Information: Bubbelicious, also known as Bubble Gum is a medium tall, usually not too branchy (sometimes stretchy) plant, producing compact, crystal covered buds. Originally the Bubble Gum was developed by growers in Indiana, USA. From there the genetics moved to New England and eventually Holland. lt took many generations to finally produce this stable Bubble Gum, with the characteristic, sweet smell (truly resembling a typical bubble gum taste) and euphoric high; the original trademarks of this famous strain. The only inbred strain (no F1 hybrid) in the Serious menu. Winner of two awards in the High Times Cannabis Cup of 1994, a 2nd place in 1995 and again a 2nd prize in 1999, giving Bubble Gum a total of 4 awards from the judges.

Plant height: Short Plant
Stoned or high?: Stoned INDICA
THC level: High THC
Flowering Weeks: 8/9
Yield : 300/400
Harvest Month: 10


Ceres Skunk


Information: GOOD OLD HABIT.Ceres Seeds own version of a good-old skunk. This variety is also a great choice for beginners because of its stability and persistence under almost any condition.
Skunk is THE original Indica x sativa hybrid. It has a musky & sweet, heavy stone which is a real knock-out!
Type: Skunk
Indoor flowering: 45-55 days
Outdoor greenhouse flowering: Mid October
Indoor Yield: 1gr/per watt
Greenhouse Yield: 500gr/plant
 

dr.tomb

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Heading to BC for 10-14days. Have my buddy looking after the girls, i gave him specific guidelines. Hopefully all goes well.

Ill take some pics when i get back, as the lights are currently off.
 

dr.tomb

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Growing Medium: Rockwool sitting on a layer of perlite
Nutes: Week 5 from the schedule
pH balanced water:
5.5-6
light cycle: 12/12 under 600W HPS + 6 CFLs
Days in: 63
Days In Flower: 31
Plants:
4 Plants (2 Ceres Skunk and 2 Nirvana Bubbleicious

Notes: Its been about 17 days since i last posted anything. Got back from holidays and found everything in working order. No issues while i was away. Phew. Not much else to report, girls are very healthy and started to put on some buds. Thinking things over the next week or 2 should change quickly as far as weight.


Pictures:

Nirvana Bubblelicious on the Left, and Ceres Skunk on the Right
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Different Angle
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dr.tomb

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So today I noticed when I turned the hps light off, and just cfls on, that there were some issues with the leaves. Think it was a salt build up. I rinsed the perlite, but it moved a lot of roots and caused the perlite to move about. I made a judgement call and washed all the roots off to remove the perlite. The roots look tan, not a bright white. I transplanted to the hydro system I built. Hopefully shock is minimal. I'll keep updating
 

dr.tomb

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Just an update. I started running into some problems and i posted this to the help section, got some useful advise. In the end i determined my Tri-Meter is out of wack. Ordered another one, should be here tomorrow. Next grow should go much better.

My Grow Journal Should help this process along, ive kept a fairly good journal. See my Signature at the bottom. Ill give the basic information bellow.


Strain: Nirvana Bubbleicious and Ceres Skunk
Issue: Very brittle and dry leaves. Looks like a burning around the leaf edges. I noticed this prior to switching to Aeroponics. I tried to rinse the roots because i believed i had a salt build up. They have seemed to have progressed worse.
Grow Medium: Started these plants off in a Passive Hydro (Rockwool cubes sitting ontop of Perlite, watering when cat litter pans would dry). Moved to Active Hydro, using aeroponics. Pump is running at 40s (on)/240s (off)
Nutes/PH: Was running the New Holland Feed schedule, you can find this info in my journal. Currently i have the plants in the new Hydro unit. Im running 1100 PPM (believe the meter is running at x .10 for the ppm scale [http://www.ebay.ca/itm/370421012196?...84.m1439.l2649]). My PH goes from 5.5-6.2 before water changes. In the last 48Hrs the PPM have changed to 1040 PPM.
Water Temp: Between 70-78*F
Room Temps: 70-89*F


Pictures:
Ceres Skunk #1


Ceres Skunk#2

Nirvana Bubbleicious #1

Nirvana Bubbleicious #2



Im sure im forgetting some stuff, so i did im sorry in advance and ill answer any questons to get a helpful diagnoses and fix.

Any help would be appreciated.​




 

dr.tomb

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Growing Medium: Rockwool sitting in Netpots, Home-made aeroponics
Nutes: 1200 PPM
pH balanced water: Adjusted last to 5.8
light cycle: 12/12 under 600W HPS + 6 CFLs
Days in: 78
Days In Flower: 46
Plants: 4 Plants (2 Ceres Skunk and 2 Nirvana Bubbleicious)

Notes:
Well as you have heard a lot has changed. I switched to Aeroponics, changed my nutes back to Jake's (feel more comfortable now that i can measure the PPM). I had ran into an issue with my Tri-Meter and ended up ordering a new one. Talked to the hydro store guy and he told me the probe is not aloud to dry, otherwise it becomes damaged. My bad.

Today i spent the about 4 hours running the cords nicely, allowing easier access to timers and plugs. Hung the new tri-meter, calibrated and set my pH and PPMs. I also put a bunch of holes around the aeroponics lid and started semi-training the plants (im actually just trying to get more light all over the leaves). I also took some pollen from my males i took out of the room earlier and put the bag around one of the limbs of the ceres skunk, thus a cross of Nirvana Bubblelicious X Ceres Skunk.

I then began the task of getting the garage ready for winter. I sealed my access door, so that there are no drafts. Put some of that draft sealer clear sheet over a single pane window that is in the garage and ordered a new seal for the bottom of the garage door.

Now all i believe i need is to get a small space heater to throw in the closet for the winter days, run the lights at night and adjust my fan to only exchange air a few times every hour, thus keeping the girls warm come the cold winter months up in Canada. Some times it can get as low as -40*C\-40*F.

Pictures:


Plants nicely trained
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Nicely Cleaned and tidied cords
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dr.tomb

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Forgot to add that the expected date for the crop to come down going by manufactures specs is Oct 7-14. Im planning on adding 7-14 days for transplant shock and because manufactures slim there specs down a fair amount. Also now that the temps have been lower (hitting 10*C\34*F) my temps are staying more in the nice scale of 55*F @ night to 78*F @ day.

Also started 6 seeds of KC Brian Northern Light Special. Here is some info on the upcoming new plants ill be growing:

The Northern Light Special is great for indoor growing, but can be grown outside as well. It is the strongest variety of the world. This strain is short and compact. A lucrative plant for indoor growing with a nice sweet taste.

Inside flowering 6-9 weeks
Height. apr. 90 cm yield up to 160 gram

Outside flowering 8-11 weeks
Height: 200-250 cm yield up to 750 gram
 

yktind

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Those are some pretty healthy looking roots considering how pissed off you girls look.

The leaves should be reaching for light "praying".

I don't know much about your setup but they look over watered. Maybe add an airstone or two to your setup. That is also clear sign of nute burn.

In my setup (Aero) my res is filled with 7 gallons of water (5 of which are RO water). I start my nutes at a 1 gal ratio then 2 gallons then 3 gallons then 4 gallons. I have never gone over a 4 gallon ratio in 2 years. Certain nutes I give more but that is more confusing to explain.

Your off to the right start on your grow but the girls seem really upset.

How often do you do a rez change? I do a full swap every 7 days.
 

Mineralz

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Sup Tomb. I've ran Nirvana's cut of BL quite a few times and she's nute hungry. In full bloom I was rocking 1300ppmz and she was just loving it. I also use DWC though...never experimented with soil/perlite/etc. Always just used a good air pump with some stones for aeration and growth is phenomenal. Also a couple more things now that I've read through your whole thread---> There's no reason to "train" a flowering plant especially past week 4. After week 4 the stretch usually slows to a halt and bud production/swelling occurs, which means the plant will need more Cal/Mag, usable potash, sugars,etc compared to heavy nitrogen and whatnot. Nitrogen is need throughout just not so much in flowering. Your 90F temps will slow/halt growth in the worst way man.....heat is the damn devil with cannabis especially without an abundant source of CO2. If you were running CO2 and temps were at 90 you wouldnt notice so much yellowing/heat stress/etc. Air circulation? Healthy roots is a MUST and yours look fine. Just takes a little time to dial everything in. Never worked with those nutes as I use Technaflora, but to each their own and ima switch nywayz lulz. Going organic is the way to be ;) I'll be sure to check back. Good luck and grow on!
 

dr.tomb

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Those are some pretty healthy looking roots considering how pissed off you girls look.

The leaves should be reaching for light "praying".

I don't know much about your setup but they look over watered. Maybe add an airstone or two to your setup. That is also clear sign of nute burn.

In my setup (Aero) my res is filled with 7 gallons of water (5 of which are RO water). I start my nutes at a 1 gal ratio then 2 gallons then 3 gallons then 4 gallons. I have never gone over a 4 gallon ratio in 2 years. Certain nutes I give more but that is more confusing to explain.

Your off to the right start on your grow but the girls seem really upset.

How often do you do a rez change? I do a full swap every 7 days.

Well I switched to aero half way (dumb idea) I should have snipped a bunch of roots off when I did, but I didn't. Imretty sure the nute burn was from my old setup, and they probably had nute lockout. now that i moved the girls, The roots are basically all coiled up on each other, just sitting in the 5" net pots. They just started growing out of the basket now... There only maybe an inch of roots growing out. These new roots are much more white. I've gone down to 400ppm now, and they are still taking more water then nutes. I feel that my next grow will be much better, because ill be starting in a dwc, in my veg, then moving to aero as they switch to flower and need more room.

i change the res every 7 days.
 

dr.tomb

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Sup Tomb. I've ran Nirvana's cut of BL quite a few times and she's nute hungry. In full bloom I was rocking 1300ppmz and she was just loving it. I also use DWC though...never experimented with soil/perlite/etc. Always just used a good air pump with some stones for aeration and growth is phenomenal. Also a couple more things now that I've read through your whole thread---> There's no reason to "train" a flowering plant especially past week 4. After week 4 the stretch usually slows to a halt and bud production/swelling occurs, which means the plant will need more Cal/Mag, usable potash, sugars,etc compared to heavy nitrogen and whatnot. Nitrogen is need throughout just not so much in flowering. Your 90F temps will slow/halt growth in the worst way man.....heat is the damn devil with cannabis especially without an abundant source of CO2. If you were running CO2 and temps were at 90 you wouldnt notice so much yellowing/heat stress/etc. Air circulation? Healthy roots is a MUST and yours look fine. Just takes a little time to dial everything in. Never worked with those nutes as I use Technaflora, but to each their own and ima switch nywayz lulz. Going organic is the way to be ;) I'll be sure to check back. Good luck and grow on!


Ill be ordering bl again, but I decided since I'm up north and winters coming its going to be a little harder to keep 70s now, so I decided to get a strain that will be more forgiving on lower temps. My next run when this is complete will be northern light special.

sucks because getting to know the girls will start over, learning what the next ones need for PPMs and such.

out of curiosity, what is the typical length of your flower for the girls? I'm sitting at 54 days into flower, and still all white hairs, think they are delayed due to the transplant shock and lack of pure white roots. Smell just started to come and it smells pukey sweet.
 

Mineralz

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On average around 63 days for most. Each strain is different. I just go by the color of the overall frosting and trich color. Fade of leaves and lack of water intake is usually a good sign that she's done
 

The Grower Man

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Hey tomb, just caught up with your grow - sorry they don't look too happy, have you checked whether it was heat stress? I'm going to update mine with some bad news. Turns out I can't use my HID lights, it gets way too hot in the tent under this climate. Actually reached 99F after about an hour, so it's going to be a CFL grow in the end.

Are you close to harvest?
 

dr.tomb

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I'm guessing the bubblelicious is about 1-2weeks from complete, and the Ceres skunk seems to be like 2-3weeks
 

dr.tomb

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So its been about 2 weeks since i took the plants down, dried and curied, then started my new grow

I got about 2 oz from the ceres skunk and 1.75 from the Nirvana Bubblelicious.

The Bubblelicious has a very sweet smell and a nice smoke with a good body stone, the ceres skunk on the other hand has next to no smell to it. Even while it was growing there really wasnt a smell to it. I believe it is due to the nutrient lockout that occured due to the passive hydro. Its taste is as good or better then the average weed i use to buy and the high is amazing.

Ill post my new grow in the next couple of hours. Ill be revegging the ceres and the bubblelicious and adding a few Brains Northern Light Special. Stay tunned
 
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